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#1 InterestedBystander

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Posted 31 August 2017 - 12:06 PM

A recent article on the bill by thetrace which is not pro-gun.

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https://www.thetrace...ois-gun-stores/

..."Chicago Shootings Are Surging Again. But a Bill to Inspect Illinois Gun Stores Sits on the Shelf.

With the ATF stretched thin, licensed firearms dealers can go years without close scrutiny.

BY ETHAN MICHAELI · @ETHANMICHAELI·August 30, 2017
As a summer surge in shootings puts Chicago on track for another staggering homicide total in 2017, an innovative approach to regulating gun dealers in Illinois will wait until next year for a chance to become law. The bill is the latest casualty of the states tight network of pro-gun lobbyists, activists, bloggers, and firearms businesses, its sponsor said.

State Senator Don Harmon, a Democrat from the Chicago suburb of Oak Park, shepherded the Gun Dealer Licensing Act out of the upper chamber this spring on a vote of 30-21. Up next was the state House, where his fellow Democrats hold a comfortable 67-51 majority.

In a phone interview, Harmon said that the states pro-gun forces, backed by the National Rifle Association, had swayed enough House members to prompt the legislations sponsor in that chamber to hold back the proposal. The bill was left sitting on the shelf when the Legislature adjourned its regular business for the year.

Harmon said his House allies were still working to secure a winning margin for the bill when the Legislature returns in January."...
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Posted 31 August 2017 - 12:55 PM

Evil never sleeps...they will keep trying until they get that passed and start closing down gun stores.


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Posted 01 September 2017 - 03:04 AM

"The Trace" is Mike Bloomberg's subtle anti-gun news source.  Not bombastic anti-gun, much more subtle (but still advantageous to the anti's) writing.

 

It has a direct propaganda purpose, and that is to appear to wrap itself in legitimacy  so that when they try to pull a whopper they have a better chance of getting away with it.

 

Sort of like the mudslinging crap that Madigan mails out in the day or two JUST BEFORE the election - a hit and run tactic to peak the negativity at EXACTLY the right time for their purposes.

 

As for the  Dealer Licensing bill, it has nowhere else to go but on the shelf as it grinds through the process, as it's proponents watch their whip counts as they try to get enough votes for it to not go down in flames. The thing stinks so badly that a lot of usually fence sitting legislators that DO occasionally vote anti-gun  won't touch it.

 

Willis laid a real egg with this one.


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Posted 01 September 2017 - 04:57 AM

So how does hiring more ghost payrollers increase the number of inspections to a significant level?   


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Posted 01 September 2017 - 06:25 AM

So how does hiring more ghost payrollers increase the number of inspections to a significant level?   

Because trying and appearing to try is all that matters...


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Posted 01 September 2017 - 08:51 AM

So how does hiring more ghost payrollers increase the number of inspections to a significant level?   

 Because ... "Virtue Signalling" has become an Olympic sport for Lefty. 

 

Results are never measured, it's only their "good intentions" that counts.



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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:00 AM

Being discussed today on capfax

 

https://capitolfax.c...g-bill-stalled/



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Posted 13 September 2017 - 01:21 PM

..."Chicago Shootings Are Surging Again. But a Bill to Inspect Illinois Gun Stores Sits on the Shelf."

 

Road rage deaths are on the rise too but for some reason nobody's pushing a bill to inspect car dealerships...



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Posted 13 September 2017 - 01:47 PM

The goofy thing about the Trace article is that they're presenting this as if opposition to the bill was fabricated out of thin air.

 

Here's another part of the back story they don't like to acknowledge:

 

Gun dealer licensing bills have been floating around the legislature for years.  They haven't gone anywhere for one reason - lack of support - a situation pro-gun groups in Illinois work hard to maintain.

 

During the 99th General Assembly Representative Willis put more effort into a dealer licensing bill than others had, which gave some people the impression it had a better chance than prior bills.  It did not.

 

Now, in the 100th General Assembly, she filed a bill virtually identical to the one that already failed in the House a year before.  This new bill saw less movement than the one before.  Other than an extended committee deadline and a bunch of cosponsors there was, in fact, nothing to show at all.

 

In the meantime Senator Harmon filed his dealer licensing bill in the Senate and, knowing it could pass there, that's where they put their effort.  It did pass over to the House where, thanks to a lot of hard work by a lot of pro-gun folks, it still hasn't had the support to move.

 

Is that a surprise?  No, not to those of us who understand that a party majority doesn't equate to a majority vote on an anti-gun bill.


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 03:45 PM

...and ABC7 ran with a story yesterday on gun shop break-ins.  

http://abc7chicago.c...o-area/2409283/



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Posted 13 September 2017 - 05:09 PM

...and ABC7 ran with a story yesterday on gun shop break-ins.  
http://abc7chicago.c...o-area/2409283/


Yeah, you know it's coming.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:28 PM

I see the "increase" in gun shop burglaries to be a testament to:

1. the effectiveness of background checks

2. the recognition of straw buyer penalties

3. the increased security of gun owners making their stashes no easy pickings

 

and other factors escaping me that work to "dry up the supply".


Edited by markthesignguy, 14 September 2017 - 04:29 PM.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:04 PM

 the recognition of straw buyer penalties

 

 

I don't know the statistics, but the most recent and most publicized case of a straw purchaser seems to indicate that a person can make straw purchases and sell to gangs with little or no consequences...

 

http://www.guns.com/...-get-jail-time/


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:00 PM

"Activist bloggers"..dam i luv that

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 08:47 AM

On the shelf or better yet in the waste basket is where this bill belongs!


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Posted 16 September 2017 - 01:17 AM

 

 the recognition of straw buyer penalties

 

 

I don't know the statistics, but the most recent and most publicized case of a straw purchaser seems to indicate that a person can make straw purchases and sell to gangs with little or no consequences...

 

http://www.guns.com/...-get-jail-time/

 

I can't cite them quickly, but I did see some "traffickers" get hard Federal time stories recently.

I'll be trying to find them again.

 

 

found one:

https://www.justice....ing-30-firearms

 

Of course, he could have been hit a lot harder (and should have).


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Posted 18 September 2017 - 10:00 AM

...and ABC7 ran with a story yesterday on gun shop break-ins.  

http://abc7chicago.c...o-area/2409283/

 

So now gun store burglaries are the "main cause" of street crime in Chicago.

 

Last week it was "out of state straw purchases" and the week before it was "bad apple gun stores".

 

Maybe the real main cause is ineffective city government?



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Posted 18 September 2017 - 06:19 PM

It looks like G-PAC is trying to ramp things up a bit on this bill.

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Posted 18 September 2017 - 07:12 PM

 

...and ABC7 ran with a story yesterday on gun shop break-ins.  

http://abc7chicago.c...o-area/2409283/

 

 

 

Maybe the real main cause is ineffective city government?

 

 How about the real reason.. the out of control gangs with no fear of convictions  



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Posted 18 September 2017 - 07:56 PM

 How about the real reason.. the out of control gangs with no fear of convictions  

 

 

I wonder how much longer the word "gang" can be used:

 

 

Portland Police Dropping Gang-Member Database

 

https://www.usnews.c...member-database

 

The Portland Police Bureau plans to stop documenting people as gang members amid community concern that the label disproportionately affects minorities.

 

 

 

Portland Police to stop labeling people as gang members:

 

http://koin.com/2017...s-gang-members/

 

In recent years, the bureau — while working with community members — realized being labeled a “gang member” can negatively impact a person trying to overcome challenges in their life.

 


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Posted 18 September 2017 - 08:19 PM

I wonder if they'll also stop labeling people "felons," "sex offenders", "pedophiles" or "domestic abusers." Otherwise, it's just another PC attempt to stay on the good side of criminal minorities. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk

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Posted 18 September 2017 - 09:56 PM

It looks like G-PAC is trying to ramp things up a bit on this bill. 

 

 

 

I didn't see anything on their website, just some stuff from June.

 

Aren't they supposed to coordinate with their friends in the media?


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Posted 18 September 2017 - 11:07 PM

It looks like G-PAC is trying to ramp things up a bit on this bill. 

 
 
I didn't see anything on their website, just some stuff from June.
 
Aren't they supposed to coordinate with their friends in the media?
FB page which it does not let me copy for some reason. A 17 yr old boy ("child") shot to death in Chicago Heights which they are equating to corrupt gun dealers.

...Gun Violence Prevention PAC - GPAC Illinois

Another child gone. This time in the suburbs. It's not "if" gun violence will reach you, it's "when." Let's do something to stop corrupt gun dealers. #YesOnSB1657.

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