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#1 BigBL87

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 06:31 PM

I'm picking up a bolt action .223 as a companion to my AR. My AR currently wears a 4-16x Primary Arms scope that will be moved to whichever bolt gun I buy and be replaced by a 1-6x scope. I mostly shoot "off the bench" (actually a picnic table ;)) out at my in-laws property but will eventually use it for coyote, possibly hogs but I have a .308 that I'd probably use for that. Most hunting I might do would be stationary so weight isn't a huge issue. After a bunch of research and looking around, I've gotten myself narrowed down to these two (though I'd consider other options around $400 if someone found something I haven't considered). I want to stay right about or below $400, I have more available but want to use the remainder for a bore guide, cheek riser if necessary, etc...

Weatherby Vanguard Heavy Barrel

Ruger American Predator

Mag-wise, it's kind of a wash because I wouldn't need to buy mags for the Weatherby and I already own plenty of AR mags that I could use with the RA Predator. Barrel length doesn't make a huge difference to me, just want something 20" or longer so both work for that. I'm assuming the Vanguard is a 2 series based on the MOA gurantee and 2 stage trigger though it doesn't state it is. Twist rate is a wash too, I probably won't use anything over 69 gr so both should be able to handle what I'd use.

#2 mikew

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 07:27 PM

Personally I'd have to go with the weatherby.

But I am curious what the silhouette of the Ruger would look like with a 5 rd magazine./



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Posted 05 September 2019 - 07:42 PM

My Ruger American Ranch in 223 is amazingly accurate! So much so that I sent the stock in for camo hydro dipping. Also, my version accepts AR mags. At 300 yards with Hornady 55 grain v-max bullets I can shoot 1.5” groups. My optic is a vortex and I did upgrade the trigger to a Timney. All things that can be done down the road. Ultimately, one of my favorite things to get behind .

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Posted 08 September 2019 - 07:36 PM

IF the Weatherby is the Howa 1500 action THEN it’s the one I’d get. Have one in ‘06 that’s awesome. Either way you are going to enjoy!
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#5 BigBL87

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Posted 08 September 2019 - 07:49 PM

IF the Weatherby is the Howa 1500 action THEN it’s the one I’d get. Have one in ‘06 that’s awesome. Either way you are going to enjoy!


It is in fact the one made by Howa. It's a Series 2, so it has the better trigger and 3 position safety.

I'm leaning hard towards the Weatherby, actually mainly waiting for my FFL to be "approved" by CDNN so I can order it. I'm planning on shooting it as is and saving up for a Boyd's At-One stock.

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Posted 10 September 2019 - 11:04 AM

i would go ruger i have three ruger rifle all are spot on



#7 luckydawg13

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Posted 10 September 2019 - 05:25 PM

did you have a look at savage at all they do make a vary good rifle https://www.cabelas....FLE/1994604.uts


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Posted 10 September 2019 - 06:08 PM

Ruger American, for the money it is hard to beat.



#9 BigBL87

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 06:28 AM

did you have a look at savage at all they do make a vary good rifle https://www.cabelas....FLE/1994604.uts


I did actually, we happened to be in Peoria on Monday so I stopped by Bass Pro. They had the 12FV in 6.5 Creedmore on hand so I took a look at it. I ended up deciding the 26" barrel was a bit more than I was looking for. I also forgot how bad the OEM Savage stocks are (I replaced both of mine). With a shorter barrel I would really have thought about it though. I ended up ordering the Vanguard Monday night, should be here Thursday though I won't get it til at least Friday.

Edited by BigBL87, 11 September 2019 - 06:29 AM.


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Posted 17 September 2019 - 08:43 PM

No doubt. I'd pick the Ruger. 



#11 BigBL87

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Posted 27 September 2019 - 01:44 PM

So, I here's what I ended up with. It's the Weatherby Vanguard (S2) Heavy Barrel. Last week I happened to notice the FDE Hogue Overmold Stock for it was mispriced by Amazon ($131 for the full bed block version, which is what the pillar bedded version is supposed to be) so I jumped on it. No sooner than 5 minutes after I jumped on it, the price was fixed but I got mine! I did have to dremel out quite a bit of material at the front of the barrel channel to get it truly free floated and I had to mess around with the adjustable trigger screw blocking it from dropping into the bedding block, but once those were figured out it dropped in nicely. I also attached a picture of my AR with the Simmons 1-6 Predator I got for a screaming deal of $85. It's no super high end optic but for that price, I'm willing to give it a shot and so far aside from a little fisheye at 1x magnification (which I expected being a budget optic), I'm pretty happy.

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Posted 27 September 2019 - 02:00 PM

Seems as if planned and budgeted well. Enjoy sir!


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Posted 29 September 2019 - 02:32 AM

How does it shoot? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Posted 30 September 2019 - 04:33 PM

How does it shoot?


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Unfortunately, haven't gotten out to the range yet. Hopefully will soon.




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