DD123 Posted October 23, 2014 at 12:16 AM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 12:16 AM Every so often, I like to detail strip my guns to go over everything to check for wear. During the spring, I bought one of the coated titanium safety plungers for my glock 23. It definitely made the trigger pull more smooth. Today as I field stripped the slide, I noticed that the plunger is beginning to get chewed up.Here's a pic:http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/10/23/dyjumuza.jpg As you can see, the edge of the bottom part is getting pretty ragged. Personally, I'm going back to the Glock OEM part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted October 23, 2014 at 12:46 AM Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 12:46 AM Just a quick additional point: The only other items that are not stock on my Glock are the extended takedown lever, a plug for the bottom grip, and the lone wolf 3.5lbs connector. Other than that, I'm not touching this thing. If you do have that safety plunger, I would highly recommend removing it. If that chewed up portion gets chewed up enough, your gun will not function. If it's a race gun, as long as you check it regularly, there's no harm, but if it's a defensive weapon, put the Glock part back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kydex Werks Posted October 23, 2014 at 01:21 AM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 01:21 AM Titanium is soft. It galls pretty badly. The stock part is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDEESUL Posted October 23, 2014 at 03:48 AM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 03:48 AM Titanium is ductile, but actually pretty hard. Not as hard as some heat treated steel alloys, but hard enough. That doesn't look like a titanium part. That looks like a part coated in titanium nitride. Titanium parts are usually silver in color unless they have a nitride layer, but it shouldn't be chewed up like that if that were the case. What brand is that one? Sent from S4 Echoe ROM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmer Fudd Posted October 23, 2014 at 04:15 AM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 04:15 AM It looks an awful lot like the Titanium Safety Plunger that the Glock Store Sells http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p725/Beecher_Tool/ScreenShot2014-10-22at111400PM_zps606a3536.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted October 23, 2014 at 06:24 PM Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 06:24 PM Titanium is ductile, but actually pretty hard. Not as hard as some heat treated steel alloys, but hard enough. That doesn't look like a titanium part. That looks like a part coated in titanium nitride. Titanium parts are usually silver in color unless they have a nitride layer, but it shouldn't be chewed up like that if that were the case. What brand is that one? Sent from S4 Echoe ROMIt's the exact one in Elmer's post above. It's a shame because it does noticeably smooth out the trigger pull. Seeing as it's one of my carry guns, I won't trust it even if I bought 20 of them and replaced them every time I brought the gun to the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDEESUL Posted October 23, 2014 at 06:28 PM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 06:28 PM Wow that's crazy. Sent from S4 Echoe ROM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted October 23, 2014 at 06:43 PM Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 06:43 PM Wow that's crazy. Sent from S4 Echoe ROMTheres maybe 300-400 rounds on that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ming Posted October 23, 2014 at 08:53 PM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 08:53 PM I'm sticking with OEM. If it ain't broke, ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thobart Posted October 23, 2014 at 11:29 PM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 11:29 PM Polish the OEM part and be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted October 24, 2014 at 12:17 AM Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 at 12:17 AM Polish the OEM part and be done. The problem with polishing the oem part is that you're basically polishing off the coating that Glock puts on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryware Posted October 24, 2014 at 12:40 PM Share Posted October 24, 2014 at 12:40 PM Check the rest of the gun.. It may be there is nothing wrong with the plunger you bought (was nothing wrong). Maybe some other problem is causing the plunger to get chewed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thobart Posted October 24, 2014 at 01:33 PM Share Posted October 24, 2014 at 01:33 PM Polish the OEM part and be done.The problem with polishing the oem part is that you're basically polishing off the coating that Glock puts on it. True, but it fixes the trigger and they dont break so not sure if that is important. I have not had to replace a plunger in over 10K plus rounds out of my 26 (just sharing what my experience has been). Also just about every good Glock gunsmith I have talked to does polish that piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDEESUL Posted October 24, 2014 at 02:08 PM Share Posted October 24, 2014 at 02:08 PM I polished mine. Every moving part got polished. I've since sold it, but polish=good! Sent from S4 Echoe ROM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted October 24, 2014 at 05:45 PM Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 at 05:45 PM Check the rest of the gun.. It may be there is nothing wrong with the plunger you bought (was nothing wrong). Maybe some other problem is causing the plunger to get chewed up. The OEM part has twice as many rounds on it and is not even blemished. From the research I've been doing, it seems to be a very common problem with these aftermarket plungers. I found a thread on a random forum that talked about this problem in detail but as usual I didn't bookmark it. I'll see if I can dig it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted October 24, 2014 at 06:56 PM Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 at 06:56 PM Found the forum thread regarding the plunger. http://glock.pro/glock-tech-warranty/6032-important-note-aftermarket-titanium-firing-pin-safety-wear-problem.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thobart Posted October 24, 2014 at 07:31 PM Share Posted October 24, 2014 at 07:31 PM I have my gunsmith do even the easy stuff on my rifles and pistols. It's no so much how hard it is to do as what not to do and what to do. Since he happens to be my competition shooting partner as well he has lots of experience with competition guns as well as carry guns. I think I have sold at least 50 trigger jobs for him by letting people try out the triggers on my guns. The other trick that I have learned even in light weight competition triggers is not to go to low on the trigger pull. On a 1911 with good hard parts in it (STI, EGW etc etc..) you can get a sub 2 lb pull. However if you will "settle" for a 2 1/2 lb pull it will last 10 time longer then a 2 or sub 2lb pull. For carry guns I personally like crisp breaks over any kind of light trigger. I prefer a 4-6 lb pull with a good clean break on the carry stuff. 4 being on the light side. We only do mods on carry guns that enhance the ability of the pistol to work. No light springs or non OEM parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDEESUL Posted October 24, 2014 at 07:46 PM Share Posted October 24, 2014 at 07:46 PM I finally measured the pull on my XDM's. The ones you felt at the carbine course, Thobart. The XDM 40 5.25" IS 1lb12oz. The XDM45 is 1lb10oz. Not bad for tupperware. Lol Sent from S4 Echoe ROM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ming Posted October 24, 2014 at 10:41 PM Share Posted October 24, 2014 at 10:41 PM I finally measured the pull on my XDM's. The ones you felt at the carbine course, Thobart. The XDM 40 5.25" IS 1lb12oz. The XDM45 is 1lb10oz. Not bad for tupperware. Lol Sent from S4 Echoe ROMThat's a pretty light pull. Is this a range/comp gun BIGD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee n. field Posted October 25, 2014 at 01:45 PM Share Posted October 25, 2014 at 01:45 PM Every so often, I like to detail strip my guns to go over everything to check for wear. During the spring, I bought one of the coated titanium safety plungers for my glock 23. It definitely made the trigger pull more smooth. Today as I field stripped the slide, I noticed that the plunger is beginning to get chewed up.Here's a pic: ... As you can see, the edge of the bottom part is getting pretty ragged. Personally, I'm going back to the Glock OEM part. Interesting. Yet another reason to restrain oneself from the urge to customize. The only other items that are not stock on my Glock are the extended takedown lever, a plug for the bottom grip, and the lone wolf 3.5lbs connector. Other than that, I'm not touching this thing. Butt plug, Lone Wolf barrell (I shoot lots of cast lead handloads). And the night sights it came to me with. The Lone Wolf barrell has been trouble free, and I'm too lazy to swap it back out for factory. True, but it fixes the trigger and they dont break so not sure if that is important. But, but, "Perfection!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted October 26, 2014 at 05:38 AM Share Posted October 26, 2014 at 05:38 AM Just a quick additional point: The only other items that are not stock on my Glock are the extended takedown lever, a plug for the bottom grip, and the lone wolf 3.5lbs connector. Other than that, I'm not touching this thing. If you do have that safety plunger, I would highly recommend removing it. If that chewed up portion gets chewed up enough, your gun will not function. If it's a race gun, as long as you check it regularly, there's no harm, but if it's a defensive weapon, put the Glock part back in. What about installing a lighter firing pin safety spring and the extra power trigger spring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted October 26, 2014 at 06:45 AM Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 at 06:45 AM Just a quick additional point: The only other items that are not stock on my Glock are the extended takedown lever, a plug for the bottom grip, and the lone wolf 3.5lbs connector. Other than that, I'm not touching this thing. If you do have that safety plunger, I would highly recommend removing it. If that chewed up portion gets chewed up enough, your gun will not function. If it's a race gun, as long as you check it regularly, there's no harm, but if it's a defensive weapon, put the Glock part back in.What about installing a lighter firing pin safety spring and the extra power trigger spring? I'd prefer to not mess with springs in a gun. I've had issues in the past with light primer strikes, and in a carry gun the only parts I'll customize are the ones I mentioned in the post you quoted. The first two don't affect the operation or firing mechanism, and the connector is well made and I've not seen any threads online regarding them impairing the firing mechanism. The only time I've seen negative reports of them is when people buy the kind that need "minor fitting" and usually it's because they went overboard with the fitting. IMO there are only two problems with Glocks; the first being a heavy trigger pull, and the second being a non smooth trigger. The lone wolf connector corrects the first problem, and the safety plunger was supposed to correct the second, but the aftermarket one's are junk as you can see from the pic. The only route left to go would be to either smooth out the Glock factory safety plunger as was mentioned in a post above, or have someone do it for me. I'd probably do the latter since I don't have the necessary tools to do the job correctly myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsa1115 Posted October 27, 2014 at 12:36 AM Share Posted October 27, 2014 at 12:36 AM I'd recommend the Apex safety plunger. Apex makes good stuff. https://apextactical.com/store/product-info.php?pid85.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted October 27, 2014 at 02:48 AM Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 at 02:48 AM I'd recommend the Apex safety plunger. Apex makes good stuff. https://apextactical.com/store/product-info.php?pid85.htmlWasn't even aware of that one and it seems to be made of good material vs. the junk I bought. How many rounds do you have on yours, and how is the wear on it? I'm assuming nil since you're recommending it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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