2smartby1/2 Posted January 30, 2019 at 01:37 AM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 01:37 AM https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/427573-south-dakota-legislature-votes-to-allow-concealed-handguns-without-a The South Dakota legislature has passed a bill allowing residents to carry concealed handguns without a permit, sending the measure to Gov. Kristi Noem ® for a signature.The state House passed the Senate legislation in a 47-23 vote on Tuesday to allow for the so-called “constitutional carry,” The Argus Leader reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird76Mojo Posted January 30, 2019 at 02:19 AM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 02:19 AM SD is looking better every day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyP Posted January 30, 2019 at 03:33 AM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 03:33 AM Indiana is a lot closer...... and warmer. Not this week of course - lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted January 30, 2019 at 04:11 AM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 04:11 AM So this is state number 14 so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird76Mojo Posted January 30, 2019 at 05:47 AM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 05:47 AM Indiana is a lot closer...... and warmer. Not this week of course - lolIndiana is losing ground on the 2nd Amendment battle from what I hear lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim123 Posted January 30, 2019 at 03:50 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 03:50 PM Indiana is a lot closer...... and warmer. Not this week of course - lolIndiana is losing ground on the 2nd Amendment battle from what I hear lately. Basically 2 out of 3 people in Lake County Indiana didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Went house hunting and saw lots of "Proud Union Home" signs in front of houses all over the place. It's filling up with escaping illinois democrat dufuses. https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/president Of all the blue counties in illinois, only cook had a lower percentage of the vote go for Trump. champaign and lake were similar to Lake County Indiana. Sad times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted January 30, 2019 at 04:01 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 04:01 PM Lake County, Indiana has always been strongly Democratic. It is the state's center for steel, refining, chemical production, and heavy manufacturing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonap Posted January 30, 2019 at 05:16 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 05:16 PM There seemed to be only four counties in IN that voted Clinton. All of them seem to be the largest counties, but Trump still won all Electoral votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec4 Posted January 30, 2019 at 09:44 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 09:44 PM Please don't assume that all Illinois transplants are Democrats. I came here eight years ago and assure you that's not the case. I've met many former residents of the Peoples Republik of Illinois who now live here. They are not Dems. What does get under my skin is the "Proud Union Home" signs which are idiotic IMO. I suppose I should put a sign up saying "Proud non-union Home". Just kidding. My recently married grandson is scheming to move over here from Illinois. He is a conservative like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twostarrz Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:06 PM Share Posted January 30, 2019 at 10:06 PM Please don't assume that all Illinois transplants are Democrats. I came here eight years ago and assure you that's not the case. I've met many former residents of the Peoples Republik of Illinois who now live here. They are not Dems. What does get under my skin is the "Proud Union Home" signs which are idiotic IMO. I suppose I should put a sign up saying "Proud non-union Home". Just kidding. My recently married grandson is scheming to move over here from Illinois. He is a conservative like me.I’m union, I don’t understand the signs either. I’m also ultra conservative so maybe that’s why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted January 31, 2019 at 04:27 AM Share Posted January 31, 2019 at 04:27 AM How does the new South Dakota law treat non residents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quackersmacker Posted January 31, 2019 at 05:02 AM Share Posted January 31, 2019 at 05:02 AM How does the new South Dakota law treat non residents?Same as residents. See the 6th paragraph in this article today: https://siouxcityjournal.com/news/state-and-regional/south-dakota/gov-kristi-noem-to-sign-constitutional-carry-legislation/article_7716c4cc-2e69-5ca4-8270-0bb39d5c20be.html A bill was introduced in the SD House last Friday to limit this to residents only, but has not been scheduled for a hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vito Posted February 1, 2019 at 12:58 AM Share Posted February 1, 2019 at 12:58 AM Just imagine the Supreme Court taking a case to reaffirm and expand Heller and declaring that requiring licenses or permits to exercise a Constitutional right is in itself unconstitutional, thus clearing lawful carry throughout the nation. How wonderful it would be to watch morons like Gov. Cuomo of NY and Newsome of CA have a heart attack or just have his head explode when the Court releases this decree. One can dream........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted February 1, 2019 at 01:49 PM Share Posted February 1, 2019 at 01:49 PM . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vito Posted February 1, 2019 at 02:25 PM Share Posted February 1, 2019 at 02:25 PM I really like Sioux Falls, SD but I don't think I would like the winters or being so far away from my kids and grandkids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted February 1, 2019 at 03:47 PM Share Posted February 1, 2019 at 03:47 PM Indiana is a lot closer...... and warmer. Not this week of course - lolIndiana is losing ground on the 2nd Amendment battle from what I hear lately. Basically 2 out of 3 people in Lake County Indiana didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Went house hunting and saw lots of "Proud Union Home" signs in front of houses all over the place. It's filling up with escaping illinois democrat dufuses. https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/president Of all the blue counties in illinois, only cook had a lower percentage of the vote go for Trump. champaign and lake were similar to Lake County Indiana. Sad times. its all the people still ticked off that Mitch Daniels cut off their gubment gravy train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richp Posted February 1, 2019 at 04:48 PM Share Posted February 1, 2019 at 04:48 PM Hi, What is it that makes the citizens of states like this so much more trustworthy and law abiding than the citizens of illinois? Why are the crime rates in these places so much lower than in Illinois? (Clue -- separate out Chicago/Cook County crime numbers for the answer.) How is it that the rate of gun ownership in so many states with lower crime rates is higher than in Illinois? Seems like these are legitimate questions to ask when it comes to fighting some of the things that are now pending in Springfield. FWIW. Rich Phillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted February 1, 2019 at 05:19 PM Share Posted February 1, 2019 at 05:19 PM Hi, What is it that makes the citizens of states like this so much more trustworthy and law abiding than the citizens of illinois? Why are the crime rates in these places so much lower than in Illinois? (Clue -- separate out Chicago/Cook County crime numbers for the answer.) How is it that the rate of gun ownership in so many states with lower crime rates is higher than in Illinois? Seems like these are legitimate questions to ask when it comes to fighting some of the things that are now pending in Springfield. FWIW. Rich Phillips Who knows, Rich... wish I did. Looking only at murder rates from 2017 - 1996, while Illinois is high, there are eight states with higher murder rates. Six of them are solid Red states (AL,AK,AR,LA,MS,MO), one solid Blue (MD), plus whatever Nevada is. Two other Red states (TN,SC) have the same rate as IL. A number of reliably Blue states have some of the lowest rates. Louisiana tops this list with 12.1 murders per 100,000.Illinois is 7.8. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2smartby1/2 Posted February 1, 2019 at 05:51 PM Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 at 05:51 PM Hi, What is it that makes the citizens of states like this so much more trustworthy and law abiding than the citizens of illinois? Why are the crime rates in these places so much lower than in Illinois? (Clue -- separate out Chicago/Cook County crime numbers for the answer.) How is it that the rate of gun ownership in so many states with lower crime rates is higher than in Illinois? Seems like these are legitimate questions to ask when it comes to fighting some of the things that are now pending in Springfield. FWIW. Rich Phillips The answer coincides with poverty...which also coincides with education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted February 8, 2019 at 08:51 PM Share Posted February 8, 2019 at 08:51 PM How does the new South Dakota law treat non residents? I think it's more important to note how states with permit requirements treat SD residents. I don't know how a state can limit non-residents' rights. Equal protection is a thing. The laws of the states must apply equally to everyone within the state...whether they live there or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted February 9, 2019 at 01:20 AM Share Posted February 9, 2019 at 01:20 AM Hi, What is it that makes the citizens of states like this so much more trustworthy and law abiding than the citizens of illinois? They're not LWW's. That's enough reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted February 9, 2019 at 02:08 PM Share Posted February 9, 2019 at 02:08 PM Hi, What is it that makes the citizens of states like this so much more trustworthy and law abiding than the citizens of illinois? Why are the crime rates in these places so much lower than in Illinois? (Clue -- separate out Chicago/Cook County crime numbers for the answer.) How is it that the rate of gun ownership in so many states with lower crime rates is higher than in Illinois?Seems like these are legitimate questions to ask when it comes to fighting some of the things that are now pending in Springfield. FWIW. Rich Phillips Who knows, Rich... wish I did. Looking only at murder rates from 2017 - 1996, while Illinois is high, there are eight states with higher murder rates. Six of them are solid Red states (AL,AK,AR,LA,MS,MO), one solid Blue (MD), plus whatever Nevada is. Two other Red states (TN,SC) have the same rate as IL. A number of reliably Blue states have some of the lowest rates. Louisiana tops this list with 12.1 murders per 100,000. Illinois is 7.8. Tim It would be interesting to see it broken down locally on a map. I bet even within red states most of the homicides probably occur within the blue areas of those states. Like all of Illinois compared to cook county, Chicago, Rockford or St. Louis areas compared to the rest of the state. ^ this *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vito Posted February 9, 2019 at 02:16 PM Share Posted February 9, 2019 at 02:16 PM And even within those "blue" cities, much of the crime is concentrated within specific areas that are overwhelmingly Democrat voting. I live in Rockford, which has a relatively high crime rate compared to much of downstate Illinois. But much if not most of the crime takes place in the part of the city that is West of the Rock River. That part of the city that has the shootings and robberies is also where there is the part of the population most dependent on government services and most likely to keep voting for Democrats, even though those Democrats never seem able to deliver on their promises of miracles and reduced crime. And unfortunately, if you look at those high crime areas in cities across the state, that is where the majority of the total population resides so that they can tilt the entire state to the Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G214me Posted February 10, 2019 at 02:06 PM Share Posted February 10, 2019 at 02:06 PM And even within those "blue" cities, much of the crime is concentrated within specific areas that are overwhelmingly Democrat voting. I live in Rockford, which has a relatively high crime rate compared to much of downstate Illinois. But much if not most of the crime takes place in the part of the city that is West of the Rock River. That part of the city that has the shootings and robberies is also where there is the part of the population most dependent on government services and most likely to keep voting for Democrats, even though those Democrats never seem able to deliver on their promises of miracles and reduced crime. And unfortunately, if you look at those high crime areas in cities across the state, that is where the majority of the total population resides so that they can tilt the entire state to the Blue. ^ Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G214me Posted February 10, 2019 at 02:09 PM Share Posted February 10, 2019 at 02:09 PM . Meanwhile in Illinois we have a pile of goo that probably never heard of the Founding Fathers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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