InterestedBystander Posted June 17, 2016 at 03:55 AM Share Posted June 17, 2016 at 03:55 AM http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/senate-vote-monday-four-gun-control-measures-n594006 The Senate will vote on four gun control measures Monday after being prodded by a 15-hour filibuster in the wake of the shooting massacre at a Florida nightclub. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, filed cloture motions Thursday on four gun-related amendments to a spending bill, a day after Democrats ended their filibuster to force some sort of action on gun restrictions. "Cloture" is a parliamentary procedure that starts the clock on 30 hours of debate before a vote. The amendments two filed by Dianne Feinstein, D-California, and Chris Murphy, D-Connecticut ,and two other, less restrictive measures filed by Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and John Cornyn, R-Texas would address background checks of prospective gun buyers and the sale of guns and explosives to people on terrorist watch lists. more at link... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted June 17, 2016 at 05:48 AM Share Posted June 17, 2016 at 05:48 AM Add another Amenment - any NON-Citizen that is on the Terrorist Watch List that is in Our Country MUST be Deported IMMEDIATELY !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomme333 Posted June 17, 2016 at 06:03 AM Share Posted June 17, 2016 at 06:03 AM call congressman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted June 17, 2016 at 06:11 AM Share Posted June 17, 2016 at 06:11 AM Add another Amenment - any NON-Citizen that is on the Terrorist Watch List that is in Our Country MUST be Deported IMMEDIATELY !!Or No Fly List! Can we add O and Hillary to that list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Destro Posted June 17, 2016 at 06:25 AM Share Posted June 17, 2016 at 06:25 AM We need to sneak adjustments into the no fly/terror watch list as a contingency plan. For Starters:-Available to the public/FOIA applicable.-Insure due process.-Ability to get appeal/cleared off of the list by seeing a judge without having to sue the federal government.-Make for damn sure that nobody can be put on it for their religion/political affiliation/political activism. -If a person is innocent and wastes money on plane tickets/hotel reservations/etc they deserve restitution. (reimbursement on federal income tax.) No terrorist is going to go to a judge or get involved with the court system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
press1280 Posted June 17, 2016 at 07:33 AM Share Posted June 17, 2016 at 07:33 AM Add another Amenment - any NON-Citizen that is on the Terrorist Watch List that is in Our Country MUST be Deported IMMEDIATELY !!And another amendment-National Reciprocity. It would be the perfect chance to add it in. Obama would be in a tight spot to veto it. We also have to consider Trump may not win the election and there may not be 60 votes for the reciprocity bills after the next election. This may be the best chance for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gLockedandLoaded Posted June 17, 2016 at 11:04 AM Share Posted June 17, 2016 at 11:04 AM Add another Amenment - any NON-Citizen that is on the Terrorist Watch List that is in Our Country MUST be Deported IMMEDIATELY !! And another amendment-National Reciprocity. It would be the perfect chance to add it in. Obama would be in a tight spot to veto it. We also have to consider Trump may not win the election and there may not be 60 votes for the reciprocity bills after the next election. This may be the best chance for a while.That would require the Republican party to have balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted June 17, 2016 at 11:11 AM Share Posted June 17, 2016 at 11:11 AM I have written both our senators, which seems like a futile effort, but I would not feel right if I don't at least attempt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
press1280 Posted June 17, 2016 at 11:11 AM Share Posted June 17, 2016 at 11:11 AM Add another Amenment - any NON-Citizen that is on the Terrorist Watch List that is in Our Country MUST be Deported IMMEDIATELY !!And another amendment-National Reciprocity. It would be the perfect chance to add it in. Obama would be in a tight spot to veto it. We also have to consider Trump may not win the election and there may not be 60 votes for the reciprocity bills after the next election. This may be the best chance for a while.That would require the Republican party to have balls. It really wouldn't though. Voting against the no fly ban would take balls, but in this scenario they vote for the no fly ban AND get something their biggest backer (NRA) has wanted for over 20 years. It works in both cases for them, not to mention at some point the no fly list will be ruled unconstitutional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted June 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM Share Posted June 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM The Belleville News Democrat quoted our very own Valinda Rowe this week in this article: http://www.bnd.com/news/local/article83790597.html Valinda Rowe, spokeswoman for IllinoisCarry.com, said Tuesday she believes gun-control legislation, as well as “gun-free zones,” would not stop mass killings or prevent “violent” or “mentally unstable” people from hurting others with firearms. “If we look at where all of these mass killings are taking place, they are in gun-free zones that already do not allow people to carry a firearm to protect themselves with,” Rowe said. “It does nothing — absolutely nothing — to prevent someone intent on doing harm.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTriple Posted June 17, 2016 at 03:20 PM Share Posted June 17, 2016 at 03:20 PM I doubt the Democrats will get the votes needed, but doesn't this just help the Republicans come November? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gLockedandLoaded Posted June 17, 2016 at 03:59 PM Share Posted June 17, 2016 at 03:59 PM The Belleville News Democrat quoted our very own Valinda Rowe this week in this article:http://www.bnd.com/news/local/article83790597.htmlValinda Rowe, spokeswoman for IllinoisCarry.com, said Tuesday she believes gun-control legislation, as well as “gun-free zones,” would not stop mass killings or prevent “violent” or “mentally unstable” people from hurting others with firearms.“If we look at where all of these mass killings are taking place, they are in gun-free zones that already do not allow people to carry a firearm to protect themselves with,” Rowe said. “It does nothing — absolutely nothing — to prevent someone intent on doing harm.”Got sidetracked reading Durbin's "common sense" quote. Those words, "common sense," I do not think they mean what you think they mean. Seriously when you bring real data and facts into the picture, our side wins every time. But they are the ones with "common sense???" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardswithoutOperators Posted June 17, 2016 at 04:47 PM Share Posted June 17, 2016 at 04:47 PM One does not simply need common sense to vote, however, it is highly underrated. Dang. Did I just make a quote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted June 17, 2016 at 05:16 PM Share Posted June 17, 2016 at 05:16 PM Common sense is the level of intellect of the average person. If you do the math you'll see that exactly half the people are "average" or dumber. Some of these folks get elected, presumably by those on the low end of the bell curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverforget Posted June 17, 2016 at 08:14 PM Share Posted June 17, 2016 at 08:14 PM Common sense is the level of intellect of the average person. If you do the math you'll see that exactly half the people are "average" or dumber. Some of these folks get elected, presumably by those on the low end of the bell curve. Funny that you mention this.. as I watched my County Board meeting (lake Co ) I said to myself some of these people are illiterate, I kid you not they could not make a sentence even while reading it off the notes... fast forward to the past 7 hours I watched of our Illinois house debate a week or so ago again the lack of the ability to communicate is just sad and they direct my welfare as a citizen of this state WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
press1280 Posted June 17, 2016 at 09:09 PM Share Posted June 17, 2016 at 09:09 PM I doubt the Democrats will get the votes needed, but doesn't this just help the Republicans come November?I doubt the AWB would help the Dems. The no fly ban I'm not sure about since it "sounds" good to the layman who doesn't realize someone is being denied rights without a trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted June 18, 2016 at 03:22 AM Share Posted June 18, 2016 at 03:22 AM Common sense is the level of intellect of the average person. If you do the math you'll see that exactly half the people are "average" or dumber. Some of these folks get elected, presumably by those on the low end of the bell curve. Funny that you mention this.. as I watched my County Board meeting (lake Co ) I said to myself some of these people are illiterate, I kid you not they could not make a sentence even while reading it off the notes... fast forward to the past 7 hours I watched of our Illinois house debate a week or so ago again the lack of the ability to communicate is just sad and they direct my welfare as a citizen of this state WOW That's why if I'm still here in Illinois in 2018, I'm running for office. I'm tired of these idiots being in charge of our state and government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted June 18, 2016 at 11:47 AM Share Posted June 18, 2016 at 11:47 AM Monday will be interesting, with UBC and NFNB both having 2 versions being voted on, I wonder how many will vote yes or no on both versions? If the democrats version fails, will they vote yes on the republican's NRA backed NFNB amendment to get something on the books? I'm guessing the order in which they are called will be critical as well. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/senate-vote-gun-restrictions-224426 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RECarry Posted June 18, 2016 at 01:32 PM Share Posted June 18, 2016 at 01:32 PM Just received an email from Robert Dold to support the "common sense bill" Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act. Campaign mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieldGL Posted June 20, 2016 at 01:37 PM Share Posted June 20, 2016 at 01:37 PM Anyone know what time this is going to happen and where we can watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted June 20, 2016 at 01:38 PM Share Posted June 20, 2016 at 01:38 PM CSPAN2 usually airs the Senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted June 20, 2016 at 02:29 PM Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 at 02:29 PM Anyone know what time this is going to happen and where we can watch? Senate.gov indicates todays floor schedule starts at 3 pm which would be 2 pm for us in IL. If interested in proposed amendments, I believe they are herehttps://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2578/amendments?q=%7B"chamber"%3A"Senate"%2C"status"%3A"Senate+amendment+proposed+%28on+the+floor%29"%7D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted June 20, 2016 at 03:13 PM Share Posted June 20, 2016 at 03:13 PM Anyone know what time this is going to happen and where we can watch? Gun amendment votes scheduled for 4:30 PM Central Time per CSPAN2. You do however know how their schedules go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted June 20, 2016 at 03:50 PM Share Posted June 20, 2016 at 03:50 PM NRA post on facebook said will vote tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted June 20, 2016 at 04:07 PM Share Posted June 20, 2016 at 04:07 PM I hope they at least use vasoline............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted June 20, 2016 at 04:16 PM Share Posted June 20, 2016 at 04:16 PM Here's a great article that breaks down the proposed crap: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/20/the-senate-will-vote-on-4-gun-control-proposals-monday-heres-everything-you-need-to-know/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerus Posted June 20, 2016 at 04:29 PM Share Posted June 20, 2016 at 04:29 PM Here's a great article that breaks down the proposed crap: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/20/the-senate-will-vote-on-4-gun-control-proposals-monday-heres-everything-you-need-to-know/I like the first one the most. Specifically the part about spending money to conduct more useless studies on things like video games. As if there aren't plenty of taxpayer funded studies on ridiculous things like how bird songs change when they're drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted June 20, 2016 at 07:13 PM Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 at 07:13 PM Discussion has started in Senate. on CSPAN2. Harry Reid already going off on magazine capacity and hunting...Republicans in the pocket of the NRA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieldGL Posted June 20, 2016 at 07:41 PM Share Posted June 20, 2016 at 07:41 PM Thanks for the heads up. Watching now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieldGL Posted June 20, 2016 at 08:03 PM Share Posted June 20, 2016 at 08:03 PM LOOOOL. "I believe in the 2nd amendment and I believe in due procoess" -Sen. Blumenthal Oh man.. just spilled my drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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