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#1 mauserme

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:18 PM

http://thehill.com/h...next-bump-stock


 

Gun reformers search for the next bump stock



BY MIKE LILLIS - 11/15/17 06:46 AM EST

On Wednesday, the ... group founded by former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) will release a report detailing nine products all commercially available under current federal law the advocates say are designed specifically to circumvent long-established gun checks and therefore pose a threat to public safety.

The products singled out by the group are a combination of obscure accessories and military-style firearms that, like bump stocks, are hardly household names. They include binary triggers, which modify firearms so one round is fired with the pull of the trigger, and another upon the triggers release; trigger cranks, which allow shooters to fire more rapidly with the turn of a handle; and incendiary rounds, which ignite when they hit a target.

The list also features modern AR- and AK-style pistols, ... and .50-caliber rifles, ...



Pay attention to how they show .50 BMG in item 7, followed by:

 

Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound. If any other firearm were built with such a device, it would be subject to the NFA as a silencer. But since this device is designed to suppress the sound of something that is exempt from federal firearms laws, it is not considered a silencer and not subject to the NFA. In fact, it is not subject to any laws at all and can be bought online.



The report is attached. and is also available at the link in the first quote.


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:37 PM

Just trying to keep chipping away..

 

I've said before, I'd have more respect for them if they were completely honest and admitted they just want all guns banned.  


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 01:11 PM

Just trying to keep chipping away..

 

I've said before, I'd have more respect for them if they were completely honest and admitted they just want all guns banned.  

 

This...I'm so freaking sick of them saying "this ban bla, bla, bla, while protecting your second amendment rights" or using garbage terms like "common sense gun laws"...

 

Just come out and say it...you despise firearms, you despise us owning them, you want them banned in any way you can grease through the system.



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:30 PM

Just wondering what is in the water supply these days that is making folks just flip a nut and start loading up and shooting people. Random shootings with little explanation just about every week. You'd think there was a purge going on.



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:39 PM

Unpossible. We've been reasonable. We've kept our defensive guns hidden. We've criticized devices that make guns shoot too fast. We get our background checks. We pay for our privileges. We displayed all the attributes of common sense. There's no way now the antis could move on anything so innocuous as a purpose built single shot hunting implement. I can't believe it.


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:46 PM

There's no way now the antis could move on anything so innocuous as a purpose built single shot hunting implement. I can't believe it

Watch them do it. In court they'll argue that these aren't a core right under the 2A because the 2A isn't about hunting. Then later, in other cases, they'll claim "assault weapons" can be banned because the 2A is about protecting hunting rifles.
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Posted 15 November 2017 - 04:48 PM

Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound.

I must have a defective one. Mine is loud as heck.
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Posted 15 November 2017 - 07:27 PM

Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound.

I must have a defective one. Mine is loud as heck.

WHAT built-in device?


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 07:45 PM

Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound.

I must have a defective one. Mine is loud as heck.

WHAT built-in device?

 
This one .... > https://www.american...d-muzzleloader/

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 10:00 PM

Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound.I must have a defective one. Mine is loud as heck.

WHAT built-in device?
 This one .... > https://www.american...d-muzzleloader/
Which was originally claimed legal in all 50 states but no longer. Sales have been stopped in IL and a few others.
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 05:07 AM

I bet that thing still has a report louder than an unmuffled 9mm.

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 05:41 AM

Great, now I'm going to have to hide my muzzle loaders. 



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Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:58 AM

Looks like a shopping list....

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:51 AM

Looks like a shopping list....


Great observation. Just as Obama and Clinton could set sales on fire, it sure would be a lesson to these groups to stop advertising their targets if the awareness and threat of scarcity kickstarted sales here too.

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 10:18 AM

 

Just trying to keep chipping away..

 

I've said before, I'd have more respect for them if they were completely honest and admitted they just want all guns banned.  

 

This...I'm so freaking sick of them saying "this ban bla, bla, bla, while protecting your second amendment rights" or using garbage terms like "common sense gun laws"...

 

Just come out and say it...you despise firearms, you despise us owning them, you want them banned in any way you can grease through the system.

 

 

They can't get any support if they tell the truth.  So they continue to lie and chip away at our rights a little at a time.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 11:17 AM


 


Just trying to keep chipping away..
 
I've said before, I'd have more respect for them if they were completely honest and admitted they just want all guns banned.  


 
This...I'm so freaking sick of them saying "this ban bla, bla, bla, while protecting your second amendment rights" or using garbage terms like "common sense gun laws"...
 
Just come out and say it...you despise firearms, you despise us owning them, you want them banned in any way you can grease through the system.
 


 
They can't get any support if they tell the truth.  So they continue to lie and chip away at our rights a little at a time.

They want us to the point where, if you've even had contact with police, you're barred from owning a gun. Then to get to the point that if you have ever been accused of anything, falsely or not, then you're barred for life. ATF handing out waivers for well-connected people.

And with all of these brainwashed idiots being pumped out by diploma mills errr prestigious universities (like Stanford, where a guy wrote "black lives matter" 100 times in his application essay and got in), we'll have some seriously messed up in the head judges and lawyers who will call barring speeders from owning a gun a "reasonable" restriction. Proof positive that our institutions of higher education (and every other institution) have been infiltrated by commies, just like they promised they would.

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Posted 01 December 2017 - 12:03 PM

How many people were killed with muzzle-loaders in the last 20 years? How many people were killed with any .50 cal in the last 20 years?

 

Oh, none? We should totally ban them, then!



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Posted 01 December 2017 - 01:12 PM

Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound.
I must have a defective one. Mine is loud as heck.

Mine too!

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Posted 01 December 2017 - 02:00 PM

 

 

Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound.

I must have a defective one. Mine is loud as heck.

WHAT built-in device?

 

 
This one .... > https://www.american...d-muzzleloader/

 

 

And, of course, these "educated" boobs think this "silenced" muzzleloader has the report of a mouse fart.



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 03:12 PM

..How many people were killed with any .50 cal in the last 20 years?

 

 

I expect that lots of people have.  To be fair, they were ISIS and Al Quaeda in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

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