Mr. Fife Posted August 12, 2014 at 05:25 AM Share Posted August 12, 2014 at 05:25 AM What if you don't have a fax machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdpsc Posted August 12, 2014 at 06:20 AM Share Posted August 12, 2014 at 06:20 AM What if you don't have a fax machine? You take a time machine back to 1980 and get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDave6 Posted August 12, 2014 at 10:40 AM Share Posted August 12, 2014 at 10:40 AM What if you don't have a fax machine? Go to Staples office center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packy Posted August 12, 2014 at 11:59 AM Share Posted August 12, 2014 at 11:59 AM email address: instructor_docs@isp.state.il.us This was the email they told me. And you must make note that your credentials have expired and you are attaching new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSharp Posted August 12, 2014 at 12:08 PM Share Posted August 12, 2014 at 12:08 PM (edited) I faxed mine *twice* and got a receive error both times. I did ask them on the fax cover to confirm receipt but I doubt they'll bother since they didn't bother to notify us in the first F&^%$! place. I suppose this means I'll also get to call ISP to make sure they got them. Edit: NP, I just scanned and emailed it too after seeing the email address listed. I marked the email for a return receipt. As if that will stop them from 'overlooking' what I sent. Edited August 12, 2014 at 12:20 PM by JSharp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ddiver Posted August 12, 2014 at 12:12 PM Share Posted August 12, 2014 at 12:12 PM They are going to have a pile of fax paper this morning when they hit the office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSharp Posted August 12, 2014 at 12:22 PM Share Posted August 12, 2014 at 12:22 PM (edited) They are going to have a pile of fax paper this morning when they hit the office. Doubtful. The FAX machine feeds straight in to the shredder... Edited August 12, 2014 at 12:22 PM by JSharp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted August 13, 2014 at 02:58 AM Share Posted August 13, 2014 at 02:58 AM (edited) I've had previous conversations about CCL Instructor issues with Carl Weitzel at ISP. Supposedly he was the guy in charge to handle any CCL instructor issues. Carl J. WeitzelConcealed Carry SectionInstructors and Curriculum217-558-5361 So I sent him an email asking for details about how instructors should update their credentials when needed.Unfortunately, the email bounced. Could it be that we no longer have this great contact at ISP? I would like to see this thread pinned so that instructors don't get caught up in the ISP CCL contact person issues.This needs resolved. http://www.illinoiscarry.com/forum/uploads/monthly_08_2014/post-2774-0-23956800-1407898650.jpg Edited August 13, 2014 at 03:06 AM by Mr. Fife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted August 13, 2014 at 03:40 AM Share Posted August 13, 2014 at 03:40 AM (edited) I've had previous conversations about CCL Instructor issues with Carl Weitzel at ISP. Supposedly he was the guy in charge to handle any CCL instructor issues. Carl J. WeitzelConcealed Carry SectionInstructors and Curriculum217-558-5361 So I sent him an email asking for details about how instructors should update their credentials when needed.Unfortunately, the email bounced. Could it be that we no longer have this great contact at ISP?His LinkedIn profile still lists ISP Concealed Carry Coordinator. This document, http://www.docstoc.com/docs/160336604/ILLINOIS-STATE-POLICE-EMAIL-DIRECTORY, indicates a dot i.e. "." between first and last instead of an underscore if that makes a difference. Could be it's not current. Edited August 13, 2014 at 03:43 AM by InterestedBystander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepeskids@2014 Posted August 13, 2014 at 03:49 AM Share Posted August 13, 2014 at 03:49 AM You can also try Jhon_wolf@isp.il.us James WolfConcealed Carry UnitInstructors and Curriculum217-782-9855 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted August 13, 2014 at 03:57 AM Share Posted August 13, 2014 at 03:57 AM I've had previous conversations about CCL Instructor issues with Carl Weitzel at ISP. Supposedly he was the guy in charge to handle any CCL instructor issues. Carl J. WeitzelConcealed Carry SectionInstructors and Curriculum217-558-5361 So I sent him an email asking for details about how instructors should update their credentials when needed.Unfortunately, the email bounced. Could it be that we no longer have this great contact at ISP?His LinkedIn profile still lists ISP Concealed Carry Coordinator. This document, http://www.docstoc.com/docs/160336604/ILLINOIS-STATE-POLICE-EMAIL-DIRECTORY, indicates a dot i.e. "." between first and last instead of an underscore if that makes a difference. Could be it's not current. I used the address from a previous correspondence with him. I'll try the others tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSharp Posted August 13, 2014 at 05:53 PM Share Posted August 13, 2014 at 05:53 PM I'm not sure if it was the multiple FAX's or the email but I got a notice back this morning saying my credentials had been updated. Apparently it is possible to do this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted August 13, 2014 at 06:53 PM Share Posted August 13, 2014 at 06:53 PM Friend and fellow instructor called to ask if I knew my instructor creds had been revoked? Did not know that! Called ISP and it was because the NRA credentials I sent them with application have an expiration date and I renewed before they expired but did not up date with ISP. Never occurred to me that they would just revoke without checking. My bad! A big THANK YOU for posting this. I personally didn't even think about this. You would think the ISP would have given us a heads up. On second thought why would they want to help us out even a little. Dagnabit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobapunk Posted August 13, 2014 at 07:00 PM Share Posted August 13, 2014 at 07:00 PM I'm not sure if it was the multiple FAX's or the email but I got a notice back this morning saying my credentials had been updated. Apparently it is possible to do this... What method did they use to get this notice to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobapunk Posted August 13, 2014 at 07:02 PM Share Posted August 13, 2014 at 07:02 PM bobapunk, hope you get it straightened out. Only consolation is it appears instructors I respect did not know about this either! Just don't get why they want to screw with the "good guys", seams they should be busy enough with real problems! You and me both. I faxed them everything on Monday. The fax did go through so hopefully everything goes as it should on the ISP end. I will probably call them next week to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyg Posted August 13, 2014 at 07:04 PM Share Posted August 13, 2014 at 07:04 PM In my case, it was an email received this morning. I had emailed them my info yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSharp Posted August 13, 2014 at 07:18 PM Share Posted August 13, 2014 at 07:18 PM I'm not sure if it was the multiple FAX's or the email but I got a notice back this morning saying my credentials had been updated. Apparently it is possible to do this... What method did they use to get this notice to you? Email. I asked them to confirm via fax or email. I got a simple 'Your instructor credentials have been updated' from the Instructor_Docs@isp email address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJR Posted August 13, 2014 at 07:37 PM Share Posted August 13, 2014 at 07:37 PM Not bad. It took them just a day and half to respond to my email. (I did send it to 2 different email addresses and a fax)========================================================== From: <Instructor_Docs@isp.state.il.us>Date: Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:47 AM Your instructor credentials have been updated. Thank you.Illinois State PoliceConcealed Carry Firearms Instructor/Curriculum Section801 S Seventh Street, Suite 400-MSpringfield, IL 62703 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSharp Posted August 13, 2014 at 07:38 PM Share Posted August 13, 2014 at 07:38 PM Friend and fellow instructor called to ask if I knew my instructor creds had been revoked? Did not know that! Called ISP and it was because the NRA credentials I sent them with application have an expiration date and I renewed before they expired but did not up date with ISP. Never occurred to me that they would just revoke without checking. My bad! A big THANK YOU for posting this. I personally didn't even think about this. You would think the ISP would have given us a heads up. On second thought why would they want to help us out even a little. Dagnabit. +1 on this. I certainly would have never known otherwise and I would have gotten nailed. I planned on waiting until the day my NRA certs expired before renewing them and I sure wouldn't have thought to notify ISP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaddog Posted August 13, 2014 at 07:46 PM Share Posted August 13, 2014 at 07:46 PM A BIG THANK YOU for the heads up on this! It never occurred to me that I would need to notify ISP. Thank you again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJR Posted August 13, 2014 at 08:12 PM Share Posted August 13, 2014 at 08:12 PM A BIG THANK YOU for the heads up on this! It never occurred to me that I would need to notify ISP. Thank you again!+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45b Posted August 14, 2014 at 07:00 PM Share Posted August 14, 2014 at 07:00 PM Emailed mine after renewal, but have not gotten any reply at all. Will just have to wait and see. I am still on the list as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted August 14, 2014 at 08:10 PM Share Posted August 14, 2014 at 08:10 PM Playing it safe, I E-Mailed and Faxed my updated and current credentials yesterday afternoon. And this morning, I received an E-Mail from the ISP stating that my credentials have been updated and that I am current. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paints-n-cows Posted August 17, 2014 at 03:24 PM Share Posted August 17, 2014 at 03:24 PM That was mighty nice of them to let us know about that. I just sent in my updated stuff via email. I know of several other guys teaching that won't know about it either so I will spread the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirflyguy Posted August 17, 2014 at 06:34 PM Share Posted August 17, 2014 at 06:34 PM Friend and fellow instructor called to ask if I knew my instructor creds had been revoked? Did not know that! Called ISP and it was because the NRA credentials I sent them with application have an expiration date and I renewed before they expired but did not up date with ISP. Never occurred to me that they would just revoke without checking. My bad! A big THANK YOU for posting this. I personally didn't even think about this. You would think the ISP would have given us a heads up. On second thought why would they want to help us out even a little. Dagnabit. +1 on this. I certainly would have never known otherwise and I would have gotten nailed. I planned on waiting until the day my NRA certs expired before renewing them and I sure wouldn't have thought to notify ISP. I think if you renew them ahead of time, they will still extend them to the 2 years past your regular expiration date. When I paid my fee for my new Personal Protection in the Home instructor status a few months ago, they re-upped all of my credentials and extended the from December of this year (the regular expiration date). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmer Fudd Posted August 17, 2014 at 07:31 PM Share Posted August 17, 2014 at 07:31 PM Its standard now that when you add a discipline with NRA for $20 it extends your renewal on everything.....for those of use with 10 or better disciplines its a real savings and hassle reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paints-n-cows Posted August 21, 2014 at 02:33 AM Share Posted August 21, 2014 at 02:33 AM I got my email confirmation tonight that they updated my expiration of my NRA certifications. I sent it to them on the 17th and it was around 3 pm today that I got the email from the ISP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted August 21, 2014 at 02:48 AM Share Posted August 21, 2014 at 02:48 AM I sent my update by email a couple days ago. Still waiting to hear back from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka Posted September 17, 2014 at 12:52 AM Share Posted September 17, 2014 at 12:52 AM I got a letter from the ISP couple of weeks ago telling me that my instructor permit was revoked - after waiting on the phone for over 30 minutes I found out that my NRA credentials had expired. Sent I SP the scan of updated credentials. Hopefully keeping my fingers crossed. The bad part was that they letter did not state why they were revoking my instructor credentials. The good part - the lady at ISP on the phone was very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted September 17, 2014 at 01:05 AM Share Posted September 17, 2014 at 01:05 AM ISP website: Service Unavailable--------------------------------------------------------------------------------HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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