Terry 9595 Posted March 5, 2018 at 04:52 AM Share Posted March 5, 2018 at 04:52 AM I got into an argument with a friend. He insist that you can carry a Taser or stun gun if you have a concealed carry permit. Can someone get me the truth??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper13 Posted March 5, 2018 at 04:59 AM Share Posted March 5, 2018 at 04:59 AM In Illinois, you must first apply for a Firearm Owner's Identification (FOID) card before you purchase, posses, or use a stun gun. Not sure about Tasers. To late to Google. EDIT:: Ok I googled... http://www.stun-gun-defense-products.com/stun-gun-blog/2013/09/illinois-stun-gun-and-taser-law/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerus Posted March 5, 2018 at 05:02 AM Share Posted March 5, 2018 at 05:02 AM As far as I’m aware - a FOID is required to buy and posess. Not legal to carry at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted March 5, 2018 at 05:37 AM Share Posted March 5, 2018 at 05:37 AM As far as I’m aware - a FOID is required to buy and posess. Not legal to carry at all.This is my understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted March 5, 2018 at 06:05 AM Share Posted March 5, 2018 at 06:05 AM The Illinois Firearm Concealed Carry Act creates the Concealed Carry License : http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=3497&ChapterID=39 "Concealed firearm" means a loaded or unloaded handgun carried on or about a person completely or mostly concealed from view of the public or on or about a person within a vehicle. "Handgun" means any device which is designed to expel a projectile or projectiles by the action of an explosion, expansion of gas, or escape of gas that is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand. "Handgun" does not include: (1) a stun gun or taser; The answer is no, an Illinois concealed carry license does not make it legal for someone to carry a taser. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted March 5, 2018 at 03:04 PM Share Posted March 5, 2018 at 03:04 PM It's kinda funny. If you have a CCL, you can be trusted to carry a lethal weapon...but not a less-than-lethal one. On the other hand, people might be tempted to use it more often. I believe that's the case with police. Tasers were developed as an alternative to lethal force. That means, they're only supposed to be deployed when lethal force would normally be justified. But, we know police use them when lethal force is not justified. They use it because they don't feel like dealing with a difficult suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted March 5, 2018 at 03:21 PM Share Posted March 5, 2018 at 03:21 PM It's kinda funny. If you have a CCL, you can be trusted to carry a lethal weapon...but not a less-than-lethal one. On the other hand, people might be tempted to use it more often. I believe that's the case with police. Tasers were developed as an alternative to lethal force. That means, they're only supposed to be deployed when lethal force would normally be justified. But, we know police use them when lethal force is not justified. They use it because they don't feel like dealing with a difficult suspect.When you look at the intention of the law and the intended use of a taser it makes perfect sense. A taser is used to temporarily disable a threat for the purpose of arresting/detaining them. A taser is not made to stop the threat, the act of arresting and detaining stops the threat. A gun is made to stop the threat. The standard of deadly force is way higher then the standard of detaining force, so outside of law enforcement the taser really doesn't have a legitimate use. And if people were allowed to carry them they'd be doing themselves a huge disservice on force on force. But who am I to push laws that prevent stupid people from doing stupid things. So yeah, I think you should let those people that want to feel better to carry them. But when they nail someone where deadly force isn't required and that person dies of a heart attack throw the same book at them as you would someone that shot someone without justifiable use of deadly force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted March 5, 2018 at 03:48 PM Share Posted March 5, 2018 at 03:48 PM The Taser was developed to reduce police-involved shootings. I think it's overused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted March 5, 2018 at 05:59 PM Share Posted March 5, 2018 at 05:59 PM The Taser was developed to reduce police-involved shootings. I think it's overused.Agreed. They are called less lethal weapons, not non lethal. The fact that police departments still insist on testing them against other police officers after several severe police injuries, police vs department lawsuits, and one alleged officer death seems insane. Given the risk of lethality there is such a narrow window between justifiable taser use and justifiable sidearm use. And testing? Well, you don't see officers testing their vests on each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma Posted March 6, 2018 at 03:23 AM Share Posted March 6, 2018 at 03:23 AM No, there is no provision for non-LE to carry a Taser in Illinois, with or without a FCCL. It's ripe for a lawsuit that the state would surely lose, as the prohibition conflicts with 7th Circuit Moore precedent in light of the SCOTUS Caetano decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted March 6, 2018 at 04:39 PM Share Posted March 6, 2018 at 04:39 PM It's kinda funny. If you have a CCL, you can be trusted to carry a lethal weapon...but not a less-than-lethal one. I have often made the same point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerus Posted March 6, 2018 at 06:16 PM Share Posted March 6, 2018 at 06:16 PM It's kinda funny. If you have a CCL, you can be trusted to carry a lethal weapon...but not a less-than-lethal one. I have often made the same point.I could be wrong but it may be because the taser is thought of by many as non-lethal and would be overused when the situation doesn’t call for that level of force. We’ve seen plenty of examples of why some people shouldn’t have a license or even a firearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted March 6, 2018 at 07:51 PM Share Posted March 6, 2018 at 07:51 PM Tasers were developed as an alternative to lethal force.Not true at all, they were developed as an alternative to billy clubs and batons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma Posted March 6, 2018 at 08:22 PM Share Posted March 6, 2018 at 08:22 PM It's kinda funny. If you have a CCL, you can be trusted to carry a lethal weapon...but not a less-than-lethal one.I have often made the same point. I could be wrong but it may be because the taser is thought of by many as non-lethal and would be overused when the situation doesn’t call for that level of force. We’ve seen plenty of examples of why some people shouldn’t have a license or even a firearm. The prohibitionists fixate on it being used to facilitate rape, carjacking or other crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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