vito Posted October 5, 2018 at 07:08 PM Share Posted October 5, 2018 at 07:08 PM Possibly the toilet tax issue will tilt the election toward Rauner, but in this State it generally is a pretty safe bet to assume the Democrat will win a statewide office. If Pritzker does win, what might we expect from him regarding guns and gun control? I think he will be busy with other issues and not address the whole subject of guns right away, but ultimately he will seek to shore up support within the Democrat base by proposing at least some gun control laws. I just wonder what it might be that he brings to the legislature, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted October 5, 2018 at 07:20 PM Share Posted October 5, 2018 at 07:20 PM Possibly the toilet tax issue will tilt the election toward Rauner, but in this State it generally is a pretty safe bet to assume the Democrat will win a statewide office. If Pritzker does win, what might we expect from him regarding guns and gun control? I think he will be busy with other issues and not address the whole subject of guns right away, but ultimately he will seek to shore up support within the Democrat base by proposing at least some gun control laws. I just wonder what it might be that he brings to the legislature,Ban magazines over 10 rounds. Ban online ammunition sales.Ban body armor. Increased wait time to purchase a firearm. Enact Firearm purchase limits. (1 per month)Statewide ammo and gun tax. All police and government workers exempt from new requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted October 5, 2018 at 07:32 PM Share Posted October 5, 2018 at 07:32 PM I think he will make gun-control a solid part of his agenda. It's been a big thing for him (and his family) before, and he's on record many times with his disdain for the 2nd amendment. The bill putting all small FFL dealers out of business will be a given, and then he'll work to ban tactical rifles, standard capacity magazines, and large caliber rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted October 5, 2018 at 08:03 PM Share Posted October 5, 2018 at 08:03 PM mass exodus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted October 5, 2018 at 08:24 PM Share Posted October 5, 2018 at 08:24 PM Possibly the toilet tax issue will tilt the election toward Rauner, but in this State it generally is a pretty safe bet to assume the Democrat will win a statewide office. If Pritzker does win, what might we expect from him regarding guns and gun control? I think he will be busy with other issues and not address the whole subject of guns right away, but ultimately he will seek to shore up support within the Democrat base by proposing at least some gun control laws. I just wonder what it might be that he brings to the legislature,Ban magazines over 10 rounds. Ban online ammunition sales.Ban body armor. Increased wait time to purchase a firearm. Enact Firearm purchase limits. (1 per month)Statewide ammo and gun tax. All police and government workers exempt from new requirements.An "assault weapon ban" defining them to be broader semi auto based.State licensing bill.The ILGA that could not get their ammo serialzation and other anti-bills that failed will be back resubmitting those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted October 5, 2018 at 08:55 PM Share Posted October 5, 2018 at 08:55 PM MUCH depends upon the pro-firearm caucus makeup of the House and Senate after the election. JB can't sign a bill that never makes it to his desk. Worst case - every odious gun bill of the last century will be resurrected and Illinois will find out the hard way just how many lawful firearms owners it HAD and how they greatly boosted both the State's economy and subsequent tax revenues. You see, gunowners are generally NOT trapped in the state by economics, they can use their gun money to move out of this state. THEN the politicians will be in the enviable position of having their howling mob of constituents out for handouts or blood - and they won't have enough pockets to pick to save their lives. ************ or ********************** The bad bills become law, gunowners hang on and gain in strength as every &^*& fudd gets converted, and the next few Illinois elections become known as the FOID holders revenge. Well.......... I can dream, CAN'T I????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngChi Posted October 5, 2018 at 10:59 PM Share Posted October 5, 2018 at 10:59 PM Look at California and understand you see the model left wants to follow - from escalating/progressive state tax rate to Cali gun laws. registries for 'permitted' handguns, statewide AWB, mag restrictions , further rifle restrictions, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awan Posted October 5, 2018 at 11:02 PM Share Posted October 5, 2018 at 11:02 PM Permanent, irreversible loss of law abiding citizen's rights. And, greater numbers of gang-related shootings and killings. Those that can, will leave the state, thus increasing the power of the evil progressive/Democrat mobs. The majority of the electorate will be on some type of government aid and, in turn, continue supporting those that will give them more government aid. More government aid will require higher state taxes, so the evils ones will vote to raise taxes higher and higher. Forget about those non-taxed pensions. If you think real estate taxes are high now, just wait. Real fire and brimstone stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmurph44 Posted October 5, 2018 at 11:14 PM Share Posted October 5, 2018 at 11:14 PM I don’t think this is a slam dunk, many people outside Chicago are still supporting Rauner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tchostler Posted October 5, 2018 at 11:18 PM Share Posted October 5, 2018 at 11:18 PM whatever madigan wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted October 5, 2018 at 11:23 PM Share Posted October 5, 2018 at 11:23 PM Bmurph, Many in Chicago are still supporting Rauner. Gotta keep telling people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmurph44 Posted October 5, 2018 at 11:42 PM Share Posted October 5, 2018 at 11:42 PM Another good read on the governor race, long but interesting. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/05/pritzker-rauner-illinois-governor-2018-221079 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted October 6, 2018 at 12:58 AM Share Posted October 6, 2018 at 12:58 AM · Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 05:58 AM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 05:58 AM - No reason given JB is NOT a shoe in. Even the press hammered him with his toilet stunt. The far left will still vote for him, but it’s our job to convince people that hate Rauner that JB will be worse. Better to have what you know rather than what you don’t know Link to comment
jim123 Posted October 6, 2018 at 01:20 AM Share Posted October 6, 2018 at 01:20 AM Look at California and understand you see the model left wants to follow - from escalating/progressive state tax rate to Cali gun laws. registries for 'permitted' handguns, statewide AWB, mag restrictions , further rifle restrictions, etc. They keep banning individual models of common handguns there. Can't sell or offer for sale in California. Look at all the S&W revolvers!:https://www.oag.ca.gov/sites/oag.ca.gov/files/pdfs/firearms/removed.pdf Looks like they're banning basically all Glocks along with Desert Eagles starting 01/01/2020 and a whole bunch of others on 01/01/2019.https://www.oag.ca.gov/firearms/certguns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilphil Posted October 6, 2018 at 01:26 AM Share Posted October 6, 2018 at 01:26 AM Surprisingly the Tribune has apparently endorsed Rauner. Don't subscribe so couldn't see entire article.Hopefully it will give some people, especially those in Cook County, something to think about, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted October 6, 2018 at 02:07 AM Share Posted October 6, 2018 at 02:07 AM full story at link http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-governor-rauner-pritzker-election-illinois-20180929-story.htmlEndorsement: Re-elect Gov. Bruce Rauner to give Illinois a fighting chance Focus instead on the one reality that should guide your vote for governor of Illinois....If Pritzker wins, heck empower the same Democratic leaders who have heaped enormous benefits on public employee unions and other pet constituencies; in return, the politicians reap the campaign money and muscle that keeps them in control. Owing to the Democrats chronic overpromising, overspending, overborrowing and overtaxing, Illinois citizens, their children and grandchildren face vast public debts they may be unable to repay....Pritzker sees this destiny. He instead wants you to look backward at the past four years, including a nasty quest for a budget. You dont, though, hear Pritzker criticize Democratic leaders for sending Rauner budgets that would have spent billions of dollars more than Springfield collected. Rauner, a stubborn guy, refused to play the Democrats game. And over the next four years, someone had better keep refusing these Democratic legislative leaders. Because in Pritzker they see a malleable rookie politician wholl give them what they havent reliably had: a governors signatures on tax increases, spending increases, debt increases. Pritzker, eager to oblige, wants more tax increases, no matter the damage to the private-sector economy. As if what Illinois needs most is more reasons for its employers and workers and young people to leave. Pritzkers refusal for well more than a year to divulge his income tax plans ought to stop every voter cold. If his scheme to defraud fellow taxpayers by deactivating toilets in a mansion as Cook Countys inspector general alleges is a Pritzker sin of commission, stonewalling voters on how much more he wants to skim their hard-earned income is a similarly grave sin of omission. Amending the state constitution to permit a progressive income tax would open the way to sky-high tax rates. Why wont Pritzker be transparent and honest with all of us? How many more billions of dollars does he want to collect, and from whom? Because there just arent enough wealthy Illinoisans whose higher taxes could fix this states finances. Who else gets gouged? So if you plan to vote for Pritzker because he isnt Rauner, imagine a governor who wont even raise a finger against his fellow Democrats. Ask yourself whether another dose of unchecked rule by Democratic leaders will restore Illinois to the prosperity and opportunity for which it once was famed. Then ask whether a second-term Rauner would do exactly what he has tried to do in his first term: deprive those Democratic leaders of their wretched excesses in spending and taxing. That answer to that is yes, as the Democrats know. They loathe Rauner. He often stalemates them. Armed only with a veto pen and a bully pulpit, he blocks their exclusive dominion over lawmaking. Which is precisely why we endorse Bruce Rauner, and urge you to re-elect him governor of Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted October 6, 2018 at 02:28 AM Share Posted October 6, 2018 at 02:28 AM Possibly the toilet tax issue will tilt the election toward Rauner, but in this State it generally is a pretty safe bet to assume the Democrat will win a statewide office. If Pritzker does win, what might we expect from him regarding guns and gun control? I think he will be busy with other issues and not address the whole subject of guns right away, but ultimately he will seek to shore up support within the Democrat base by proposing at least some gun control laws. I just wonder what it might be that he brings to the legislature,Ban magazines over 10 rounds.Ban online ammunition sales.Ban body armor.Increased wait time to purchase a firearm.Enact Firearm purchase limits. (1 per month)Statewide ammo and gun tax.All police and government workers exempt from new requirements. Wasn't body armor banned from private citizen ownership a year or two ago? mass exodus Amen to that !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted October 6, 2018 at 02:31 AM Share Posted October 6, 2018 at 02:31 AM Wasn't body armor banned from private citizen ownership a year or two ago?Not as a whole. Muni code was passed in Chicago but not at state level. Chicago chose to defer enforcement with hopes bill would pass at state level. Not sure what they are doing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crufflesmuth Posted October 6, 2018 at 03:12 AM Share Posted October 6, 2018 at 03:12 AM If he wins, he'll be tied up amending the Illinois Con for at least the better part of a year, what with selling us the lie the pro income tax nets more revenue than the flat tax.He can pass whatever magazine limits he wants, I got plenty of CAD files to print. Let's not draw any conclusions until we need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcc Posted October 6, 2018 at 02:25 PM Share Posted October 6, 2018 at 02:25 PM Going to guess higher taxes, much higher spending, and much more debt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted October 6, 2018 at 03:05 PM Share Posted October 6, 2018 at 03:05 PM Unusually high rate of boating accidents. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted October 6, 2018 at 04:51 PM Share Posted October 6, 2018 at 04:51 PM 10 round mag limitsSemi auto rifle banSemi auto shotty banRifle caliber pistol ban"License" dealers out of business Ammo tax, gun tax,ban on net salesMonthly purchase limitsPossible ban on laser sightsMass migration out of their socialist paradise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymond963 Posted October 6, 2018 at 08:20 PM Share Posted October 6, 2018 at 08:20 PM Repeal of Preemption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted October 8, 2018 at 03:23 PM Share Posted October 8, 2018 at 03:23 PM FWIW: I posted under the Do Not Panic thread with a link to his platform on gun violence; but agree with many of the responses above. In addition to that link, the following is on a list of recommendations from one group that has his ear (leader did an ad for Pritzker). How to strengthen Illinois gun laws? Require licensing and regulation of gun dealers.Require firearm registration.Ban assault weapons and high capacity magazinesRestrict purchase of multiple firearmsGive law enforcement discretion to deny concealed carry permitsAllow local regulation of firearms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted October 8, 2018 at 08:10 PM Share Posted October 8, 2018 at 08:10 PM FWIW: I posted under the Do Not Panic thread with a link to his platform on gun violence; but agree with many of the responses above. In addition to that link, the following is on a list of recommendations from one group that has his ear (leader did an ad for Pritzker). How to strengthen Illinois gun laws? Require licensing and regulation of gun dealers.Require firearm registration.Ban assault weapons and high capacity magazinesRestrict purchase of multiple firearmsGive law enforcement discretion to deny concealed carry permitsAllow local regulation of firearms Sounds about right.-Put all local FFLs out of business-Register all guns, so they know where to go when they ban them later-Ban most rifles and magazines (as well as most handgun magazines)-Severe limits on buying a firearm-Change the license to "May Issue". See New York & California for this will be implemented.-Remove all preemptions to make our expensive CCW licenses (even if we're "allowed" to keep them) not worth the plastic they're printed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrooks Posted October 9, 2018 at 03:55 PM Share Posted October 9, 2018 at 03:55 PM I don't expect him to win if we get out the vote in the numbers needed. The fact is that Dem turnout will be low regardless. JB does not energize the base. He may get the Lake Shore Libs going but most are still not enthused. We cannot afford to be that way. I don't care if you like Rauner or not, go out and vote for the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tricolor Posted October 9, 2018 at 04:02 PM Share Posted October 9, 2018 at 04:02 PM I don't expect him to win if we get out the vote in the numbers needed. The fact is that Dem turnout will be low regardless. JB does not energize the base. He may get the Lake Shore Libs going but most are still not enthused. We cannot afford to be that way. I don't care if you like Rauner or not, go out and vote for the guy. This is my hope as well. Jabba doesn't send a tingle up anyone's leg, so if we get out and vote we have a fighting chance. Jabba wants us to believe the polling and stay home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted October 9, 2018 at 04:12 PM Share Posted October 9, 2018 at 04:12 PM Don't-cha get tired of all this roller coaster crap over a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scipio24 Posted October 10, 2018 at 02:06 PM Share Posted October 10, 2018 at 02:06 PM Don't-cha get tired of all this roller coaster crap over a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT?? It's because those idiots think the second amendment is for using black powder to go hunting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted October 10, 2018 at 04:20 PM Share Posted October 10, 2018 at 04:20 PM · Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 05:58 AM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 05:58 AM - No reason given IF he wins, pull the Dems Card and RESIST. Oh, wait, only the democrats can legally go against an administration....... Either way, F him Link to comment
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