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#1 InterestedBystander

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Posted 06 August 2019 - 04:10 PM

Posted on 761st Gun Club Facebook page today

...Gun club President will be on Chicago tonight on WTTW with State Rep. Kathy Willis debating about SB1966

C.O.F....

https://www.facebook...6&__tn__=*s*s-R

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Posted 06 August 2019 - 06:28 PM

Discussion begins about the 6:00 mark. I expect it will be on the video archive of the WTTW site.
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Posted 06 August 2019 - 06:38 PM

Discussion begins about the 6:00 mark. I expect it will be on the video archive of the WTTW site.

 

Is there a link to that?


"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?

 

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Posted 06 August 2019 - 07:07 PM

Found it on YouTube. Why won't videos show up on this forum anymore? I have been having this problem for weeks here.

 

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=XeY1cDc0nYc


Edited by ChicagoRonin70, 06 August 2019 - 07:09 PM.

"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?

 

“One can never underestimate the idiocy of those determined to be offended by things that don't affect their real lives in the slightest.” —Me
 
“Hatred is the sharpest sword; the desire for peace is armor made of willow leaves in the face of an enemy who despises you, as neither alone will stop a strike that is aimed at your neck.” —Samurai proverb
 
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” —Robert Heinlein
 
“I reserve the right to take any action necessary to maintain the equilibrium in which I've chosen to exist.” —Me
 
"It ain't braggin' if you done it." —Will Rogers

 

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Posted 06 August 2019 - 07:10 PM

https://www.youtu.be/XeY1cDc0nYc

 

 

Yep, not showing up no matter how I put it in.

 

Has the embed video function with YouTube videos been disabled in this forum?


Edited by ChicagoRonin70, 06 August 2019 - 07:18 PM.

"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?

 

“One can never underestimate the idiocy of those determined to be offended by things that don't affect their real lives in the slightest.” —Me
 
“Hatred is the sharpest sword; the desire for peace is armor made of willow leaves in the face of an enemy who despises you, as neither alone will stop a strike that is aimed at your neck.” —Samurai proverb
 
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” —Robert Heinlein
 
“I reserve the right to take any action necessary to maintain the equilibrium in which I've chosen to exist.” —Me
 
"It ain't braggin' if you done it." —Will Rogers

 

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Posted 06 August 2019 - 07:24 PM

https://schedule.wtt...hicago-Tonight/is the direct link as well.



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Posted 06 August 2019 - 07:25 PM

It is certainly inconsistent for me. Sometime using manual youtube tags help. Maybe the upgraded board, if we ever get there, will help.


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Posted 06 August 2019 - 07:42 PM

So what did the sow have to say for herself?
Have all boated who fish?
Have all boated who fish?
Have all boated who fish?
 
 

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Posted 06 August 2019 - 07:58 PM

So what did the sow have to say for herself?

Its not racist. If you can afford the gun the $50 isnt going to hurt that much. Fingerprinting will make us safer...the usual. It was roughly a 15 minute segment.
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Posted 06 August 2019 - 08:01 PM

Essentially, Willis was spewing the same, tired, retreaded "it will make us safer" nonsense that will literally not do anything other than place a greater burden on the normally law-abiding, and affect the criminally inclined not in the slightest.


"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?

 

“One can never underestimate the idiocy of those determined to be offended by things that don't affect their real lives in the slightest.” —Me
 
“Hatred is the sharpest sword; the desire for peace is armor made of willow leaves in the face of an enemy who despises you, as neither alone will stop a strike that is aimed at your neck.” —Samurai proverb
 
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” —Robert Heinlein
 
“I reserve the right to take any action necessary to maintain the equilibrium in which I've chosen to exist.” —Me
 
"It ain't braggin' if you done it." —Will Rogers

 

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Posted 07 August 2019 - 07:58 AM

"]https://www.youtu.be/XeY1cDc0nYc
 
 
Yep, not showing up no matter how I put it in.
 
Has the embed video function with YouTube videos been disabled in this forum?

If you manually type in media tags and also change "https" to "http" it will embed. Those are the changes I made to your post.

Edited by Soutsidr, 07 August 2019 - 08:01 AM.


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Posted 07 August 2019 - 02:14 PM

Is there anything that Willis or Harmon proposes that hasn't  had a fee attached to it? 



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Posted 07 August 2019 - 07:55 PM

 

"]https://www.youtu.be/XeY1cDc0nYc
 
 
Yep, not showing up no matter how I put it in.
 
Has the embed video function with YouTube videos been disabled in this forum?

If you manually type in media tags and also change "https" to "http" it will embed. Those are the changes I made to your post.

 

 

That is definitely not the way it had been able to embed YouTube videos for the past several years. Something got changed in the coding of the board, it seems, because it used to do it automatically when you pasted in the video URL, hit "Enter" three times, and clicked the "Post" button.


"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?

 

“One can never underestimate the idiocy of those determined to be offended by things that don't affect their real lives in the slightest.” —Me
 
“Hatred is the sharpest sword; the desire for peace is armor made of willow leaves in the face of an enemy who despises you, as neither alone will stop a strike that is aimed at your neck.” —Samurai proverb
 
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” —Robert Heinlein
 
“I reserve the right to take any action necessary to maintain the equilibrium in which I've chosen to exist.” —Me
 
"It ain't braggin' if you done it." —Will Rogers

 

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Posted 07 August 2019 - 08:00 PM

Google turned https on for youtube videos only like about a year ago. It was straight http before that.
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Posted 07 August 2019 - 08:11 PM

That is definitely not the way it had been able to embed YouTube videos for the past several years. Something got changed in the coding of the board, it seems, because it used to do it automatically when you pasted in the video URL, hit "Enter" three times, and clicked the "Post" button.


When I look at the mechanics of how you posted the link, it seems as if you included the address within BBCode url tags.

Try a straight copy/paste from your browser's address bar, without the tags.

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Posted 07 August 2019 - 08:34 PM

 

That is definitely not the way it had been able to embed YouTube videos for the past several years. Something got changed in the coding of the board, it seems, because it used to do it automatically when you pasted in the video URL, hit "Enter" three times, and clicked the "Post" button.


When I look at the mechanics of how you posted the link, it seems as if you included the address within BBCode url tags.

Try a straight copy/paste from your browser's address bar, without the tags.

 

 

That is exactly what I do, copy from the address bar. And only recently have they stopped embedding. I even test out the copied and pasted URL by opening up a new window, pasting the URL into the new browser bar, and hitting "Enter" on my keyboard. The video opens up as it is supposed to.

 

Additionally, as a test, I embedded the videos into posts in another forum I am a member of, which worked the exact same way as it used to here. They work fine there, with the embedded videos showing up in the post without having to do anything else.

 

Occam's razor indicates that it's something to do with the coding in this site. Not the first time I've had functionality problems with features here. I've written to you mods before about them.


"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?

 

“One can never underestimate the idiocy of those determined to be offended by things that don't affect their real lives in the slightest.” —Me
 
“Hatred is the sharpest sword; the desire for peace is armor made of willow leaves in the face of an enemy who despises you, as neither alone will stop a strike that is aimed at your neck.” —Samurai proverb
 
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” —Robert Heinlein
 
“I reserve the right to take any action necessary to maintain the equilibrium in which I've chosen to exist.” —Me
 
"It ain't braggin' if you done it." —Will Rogers

 

 InX89li.jpg
 

 
 
 
 


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Posted 07 August 2019 - 09:29 PM

The question is where are the tags coming from? Is it from the way they are posted, or is the forum adding them?

When I look at your URL I see this, with opening and closing tags:
 
[url=https://youtu.be/XeY1cDc0nYc]https://www.youtu.be/XeY1cDc0nYc[/url]
 
 
 
When I look at my copy/paste





I see:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeY1cDc0nYc&feature=youtu.be
 
 
 
 
Interestedbystander's version is:
 
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeY1cDc0nYc[/youtube]
 
 
Soutsidr has media tags in the modified quote:
 
[media]http://youtu.be/XeY1cDc0nYc"]https://www.youtu.be/XeY1cDc0nYc[/media]


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Posted 07 August 2019 - 09:34 PM

https://www.youtube....h?v=XeY1cDc0nYc


"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?

 

“One can never underestimate the idiocy of those determined to be offended by things that don't affect their real lives in the slightest.” —Me
 
“Hatred is the sharpest sword; the desire for peace is armor made of willow leaves in the face of an enemy who despises you, as neither alone will stop a strike that is aimed at your neck.” —Samurai proverb
 
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” —Robert Heinlein
 
“I reserve the right to take any action necessary to maintain the equilibrium in which I've chosen to exist.” —Me
 
"It ain't braggin' if you done it." —Will Rogers

 

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Posted 07 August 2019 - 09:38 PM

In the post right above this one, I literally just clicked on the YouTube video, opened it up in a separate browser tab on YouTube, selected the URL in the browser bar, copied and pasted it into both this forum and on a separate forum that formats the same way for embedding videos, and it worked in the other one, but not here.


"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?

 

“One can never underestimate the idiocy of those determined to be offended by things that don't affect their real lives in the slightest.” —Me
 
“Hatred is the sharpest sword; the desire for peace is armor made of willow leaves in the face of an enemy who despises you, as neither alone will stop a strike that is aimed at your neck.” —Samurai proverb
 
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” —Robert Heinlein
 
“I reserve the right to take any action necessary to maintain the equilibrium in which I've chosen to exist.” —Me
 
"It ain't braggin' if you done it." —Will Rogers

 

 InX89li.jpg
 

 
 
 
 


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Posted 07 August 2019 - 09:38 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeY1cDc0nYc&feature=youtu.be


"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?

 

“One can never underestimate the idiocy of those determined to be offended by things that don't affect their real lives in the slightest.” —Me
 
“Hatred is the sharpest sword; the desire for peace is armor made of willow leaves in the face of an enemy who despises you, as neither alone will stop a strike that is aimed at your neck.” —Samurai proverb
 
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” —Robert Heinlein
 
“I reserve the right to take any action necessary to maintain the equilibrium in which I've chosen to exist.” —Me
 
"It ain't braggin' if you done it." —Will Rogers

 

 InX89li.jpg
 

 
 
 
 


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Posted 07 August 2019 - 09:40 PM

Now, I coped the one you posted into the post above this one, also did it on another site that allows the embedding of videos as per this one, and as you can see it just showed up the URL here, but allowed the posting in the other site.


"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?

 

“One can never underestimate the idiocy of those determined to be offended by things that don't affect their real lives in the slightest.” —Me
 
“Hatred is the sharpest sword; the desire for peace is armor made of willow leaves in the face of an enemy who despises you, as neither alone will stop a strike that is aimed at your neck.” —Samurai proverb
 
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” —Robert Heinlein
 
“I reserve the right to take any action necessary to maintain the equilibrium in which I've chosen to exist.” —Me
 
"It ain't braggin' if you done it." —Will Rogers

 

 InX89li.jpg
 

 
 
 
 


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Posted 07 August 2019 - 09:41 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeY1cDc0nYc&feature=youtu.be


"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?

 

“One can never underestimate the idiocy of those determined to be offended by things that don't affect their real lives in the slightest.” —Me
 
“Hatred is the sharpest sword; the desire for peace is armor made of willow leaves in the face of an enemy who despises you, as neither alone will stop a strike that is aimed at your neck.” —Samurai proverb
 
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” —Robert Heinlein
 
“I reserve the right to take any action necessary to maintain the equilibrium in which I've chosen to exist.” —Me
 
"It ain't braggin' if you done it." —Will Rogers

 

 InX89li.jpg
 

 
 
 
 


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Posted 07 August 2019 - 09:42 PM

The one above was done with a different browser, Brave, which had no cookies or anything in it, and it still doesn't embed here. But it does in the other site I am posting it in as a test.

 

Thus, the problem is on Illinois Carry's site, not my system, or my browsers.


Edited by ChicagoRonin70, 07 August 2019 - 09:43 PM.

"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?

 

“One can never underestimate the idiocy of those determined to be offended by things that don't affect their real lives in the slightest.” —Me
 
“Hatred is the sharpest sword; the desire for peace is armor made of willow leaves in the face of an enemy who despises you, as neither alone will stop a strike that is aimed at your neck.” —Samurai proverb
 
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” —Robert Heinlein
 
“I reserve the right to take any action necessary to maintain the equilibrium in which I've chosen to exist.” —Me
 
"It ain't braggin' if you done it." —Will Rogers

 

 InX89li.jpg
 

 
 
 
 


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Posted 07 August 2019 - 10:08 PM

There are 2 distinct modes available when you post - one with BBCode Mode enabled, the other with that mode disabled. You can toggle this selection by clicking the little icon at the top left corner of the post box. If you look very closely the icon is a light switch.

When I look at your latest url with BBCode Mode enabled I it see exactly as it appears in your post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeY1cDc0nYc&feature=youtu.be
However, when BBCode Mode is disabled a more complete version of your post is revealed:
https[color=#666600]:[/color][color=#880000]//www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeY1cDc0nYc&feature=youtu.be[/color]
In other words, with BBCode enabled the system is trying to parse your url to a format you didn't intend, including color tags and such.

Try posting the url one more time, this time with BBCode Mode disabled. You'll know its disabled if your formatting tools like bold, italic, etc are grayed out.

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Posted 07 August 2019 - 10:15 PM

There are 2 distinct modes available when you post - one with BBCode Mode enabled, the other with that mode disabled. You can toggle this selection by clicking the little icon at the top left corner of the post box. If you look very closely the icon is a light switch.

When I look at your latest url with BBCode Mode enabled is see exactly as it appears in your post:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeY1cDc0nYc&feature=youtu.be
However, when BBCode Mode is disabled a more complete version of your post is revealed:
https[color=#666600]:[/color][color=#880000]//www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeY1cDc0nYc&feature=youtu.be[/color]
In other words, with BBCode enabled the system is trying to parse your url to a format you didn't intend, including color tags and such.

Try posting the url one more time, this time with BBCode Mode disabled. You'll know its disabled if your formatting tools like bold, italic, etc are grayed out.

 

 
You are talking about in the "More Reply Options" screen?
 
I have almost never used that in the past.
 
Also, the color coding that was there is what showed up in YOUR posting of that URL. I literally just copied and pasted it.

Here is it reposted, with the BBCCode turned off:


 

 

It does seem to work, but that was never necessary before.


Edited by ChicagoRonin70, 07 August 2019 - 10:17 PM.

"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?

 

“One can never underestimate the idiocy of those determined to be offended by things that don't affect their real lives in the slightest.” —Me
 
“Hatred is the sharpest sword; the desire for peace is armor made of willow leaves in the face of an enemy who despises you, as neither alone will stop a strike that is aimed at your neck.” —Samurai proverb
 
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” —Robert Heinlein
 
“I reserve the right to take any action necessary to maintain the equilibrium in which I've chosen to exist.” —Me
 
"It ain't braggin' if you done it." —Will Rogers

 

 InX89li.jpg
 

 
 
 
 


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Posted 07 August 2019 - 10:20 PM

Another option is to type your reply in a plain text editor, which will strip out any coding, then copy/past that text in either mode.

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 08:01 AM

He did a really good job putting up with her BS lol
I feel that he could have had a couple better talking points / rebuttals, but over all it was still cool to see a calm discussion from two sides.  

Very frustrating to hear her constantly say "well if you can afford the gun" and "well if it makes you safer hur hur hur" Like she talking to a child.  


Edited by FoxtrotIndia, 09 August 2019 - 08:02 AM.


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Posted 09 August 2019 - 10:22 AM

Very frustrating to hear her constantly say "well if you can afford the gun" and "well if it makes you safer hur hur hur" Like she talking to a child.  

 

Willis' "Fix the FOID" and Red Flag laws got a 12 year old shot. I'd be interested in holding her accountable for that.


Edited by Raw Power, 09 August 2019 - 10:24 AM.


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Posted 12 August 2019 - 07:48 AM

These are the same hypocrites that cry it's a poll tax if someone has to have a driver's license or state ID to vote. A little "common-sense" voting legislation would keep Democrats from destroying our democracy!

#30 ChicagoRonin70

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Posted 12 August 2019 - 01:14 PM

 

Very frustrating to hear her constantly say "well if you can afford the gun" and "well if it makes you safer hur hur hur" Like she talking to a child.  

 

Willis' "Fix the FOID" and Red Flag laws got a 12 year old shot. I'd be interested in holding her accountable for that.

 

 

Wait, say that again? Can you provide a link to a story about that? I would LOVE to read how that happened and the connection to Willis and her legislative despicability.


"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?

 

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