Texasgrillchef Posted October 3, 2020 at 05:05 AM Share Posted October 3, 2020 at 05:05 AM I just read through the post about the 3hr class needed to in order to renew ones Illinois CCW. What I didnt see, was any true direct answer to how soon one could take that 3 hr class prior to renewing your CCW, or if it had an expiration date. The other question I had, is wondering if any of the NRA classes could substitute for the 3 hr class, like it does in giving you an 8hr e emotion on your initial application for a CCW. The reason I am asking, is that on the Weekend of October 24th, I am flying into St Louis from Dallas, and taking the remaining 8 hr CCW class in Glen Carbon, IL. As I have already taken the NRA Basic Pistol course. Since I will already be here for classes, is it possible for me to just take the 3hr class as well and then hold onto that paperwork and submit it for renewal when the time comes? Since I will be traveling back n forth from Texas to Illinois on occasion, I would like to schedule the 3 hr class at the earliest possible time for it to count for renewal when that time comes. I will be making my submission Of my application on Monday October 26th after my training and when I am back home in Dallas. FYI, I already have my resident Texas LTC, along with my non-resident CCW/LTC for NH and Maine. I also have non-resident CCW/LTC applications Submitted & pending for Utah, Arizona, Florida, & Connecticut. One last question, which is kinda off topic of my original question. I am wanting to use my Baretta 92FS for the shooting portion of the class, but my 92FS has a threaded barrel with muzzle break. Is this allowed in Illinois and along I270 between St Louis and Glen Carbon IL, where my class will be held? I ask because some (such as Connecticut) consider the threaded barrel and muzzle break an assault weapon and Thus are banned. I know silencers are banned in Illinois, and thus I wont be bringing my silencer with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigcelia Posted October 3, 2020 at 06:19 AM Share Posted October 3, 2020 at 06:19 AM I think I can answer a couple of your questions: "What I didnt see, was any true direct answer to how soon one could take that 3 hr class prior to renewing your CCW, or if it had an expiration date." Your 3 hour certificate doesnt expire. "The other question I had, is wondering if any of the NRA classes could substitute for the 3 hr class, like it does in giving you an 8hr e emotion on your initial application for a CCW." No, it has to specifically be the Illinois 3 hour course. "The reason I am asking, is that on the Weekend of October 24th, I am flying into St Louis from Dallas, and taking the remaining 8 hr CCW class in Glen Carbon, IL. As I have already taken the NRA Basic Pistol course. Since I will already be here for classes, is it possible for me to just take the 3hr class as well and then hold onto that paperwork and submit it for renewal when the time comes?" I doubt it, kind of defeats its purpose but I suppose you can try. "FYI, I already have my resident Texas LTC, along with my non-resident CCW/LTC for NH and Maine. I also have non-resident CCW/LTC applications Submitted & pending for Utah, Arizona, Florida, & Connecticut." I'm confused, if you are a resident of Texas, you can't get an Illinois CCL. Don't think its one of the states where Illinois allows for a non resident Illinois CCL. I believe only residents of Hawaii, New Mexico, South Carolina and Virginia can get Illinois non resident licenses. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted October 3, 2020 at 10:20 AM Share Posted October 3, 2020 at 10:20 AM I believe the list of states whose residents can qualify for IL non-resident carry licenses (as of 2018) is Arkansas, Idaho, Mississippi, Nevada, Texas, and Virginia. See ISPFSB (pdf). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted October 3, 2020 at 02:00 PM Share Posted October 3, 2020 at 02:00 PM I believe the list of states whose residents can qualify for IL non-resident carry licenses (as of 2018) is Arkansas, Idaho, Mississippi, Nevada, Texas, and Virginia.See ISPFSB (pdf).Correct. From the ISP FAQ:The Illinois State Police sent a survey to each state to determine which states have laws that are substantially similar. Currently, the only states considered to be substantially similar are Arkansas, Idaho, Mississippi, Nevada, Texas and Virginia. Click here to view the CCL Substantially Similar Survey (see link above) Afaik, your TX LTC doesnt matter except for allowing you to car carry while you are here. Your Beretta should be OK, but might check with the instructor in case they have some quirky policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigcelia Posted October 3, 2020 at 02:04 PM Share Posted October 3, 2020 at 02:04 PM I believe the list of states whose residents can qualify for IL non-resident carry licenses (as of 2018) is Arkansas, Idaho, Mississippi, Nevada, Texas, and Virginia.See ISPFSB (pdf).Correct.From the ISP FAQThe Illinois State Police sent a survey to each state to determine which states have laws that are substantially similar. Currently, the only states considered to be substantially similar are Arkansas, Idaho, Mississippi, Nevada, Texas and Virginia. Click here to view the CCL Substantially Similar SurveyThey changed this then. South Carolina was on the list as well. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101abn Posted October 3, 2020 at 04:16 PM Share Posted October 3, 2020 at 04:16 PM Per the 3 hr renewal, in IL any thing can happen in 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallbore Posted October 3, 2020 at 06:12 PM Share Posted October 3, 2020 at 06:12 PM The purpose of the 3hr renewal course is to help you. It will provided law changes that you want to know. It will refresh your memory on the UUW statutes as well as basic info. It is much more than a piece of paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oohrah Posted October 3, 2020 at 10:28 PM Share Posted October 3, 2020 at 10:28 PM Texas grill chef, there is a certified IL CCL instructor in Plano, TX. That's where I took my class, and range test. Unlike some states, IL does not require you to actually go to IL to take the class. The ISP website has a listing of instructors in other states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted October 3, 2020 at 11:41 PM Share Posted October 3, 2020 at 11:41 PM Texas grill chef, there is a certified IL CCL instructor in Plano, TX. That's where I took my class, and range test.Unlike some states, IL does not require you to actually go to IL to take the class. The ISP website has a listing of instructors in other states. 2 listed in TX, but neither in Plano https://www.ispfsb.com/Public/instructors.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted October 4, 2020 at 01:50 AM Share Posted October 4, 2020 at 01:50 AM Think the issue with taking it along with the original ccl app is that should the law change in the 5 year period or increase in hours needed you would be required to retake and repay!I’d wait till close to the renew timelines in place and be assured of having a good cert. they do change cert from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Craigcelia Posted October 4, 2020 at 03:02 AM Share Posted October 4, 2020 at 03:02 AM Yes Texasgrillchef, I was incorrect on the Texas thing. Yes, your 8 hrs NRA pistol will credit you 8 hours of the 16 but not the 3/hrs renewal. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasgrillchef Posted October 4, 2020 at 03:04 AM Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 at 03:04 AM Per the 3 hr renewal, in IL any thing can happen in 5 years.Good point. I wont be taking the 3hr renewal class on this trip. I was using that as an example. Partly for the exact reason you say, anything can happen in 5 years. Plus I will be making multiple trips, so will have time to get it in 3 or 4 years. How soon can one start the renewal process, or is it limited to 90 days prior to expiration like it is for Texas and a few other states? Who knows what things will be like in 3-5 years anyways, it could be possible we have national reciprocity by then as well. I was just wondering what the time limit was. Simply because I dont want to be caught last minute trying to get classes to renew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasgrillchef Posted October 4, 2020 at 03:05 AM Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 at 03:05 AM Texas grill chef, there is a certified IL CCL instructor in Plano, TX. That's where I took my class, and range test.Unlike some states, IL does not require you to actually go to IL to take the class. The ISP website has a listing of instructors in other states.yep emailed him, he moved to Mississippi and isn’t currently teaching any classes sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasgrillchef Posted October 4, 2020 at 03:06 AM Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 at 03:06 AM Texas grill chef, there is a certified IL CCL instructor in Plano, TX. That's where I took my class, and range test.Unlike some states, IL does not require you to actually go to IL to take the class. The ISP website has a listing of instructors in other states. 2 listed in TX, but neither in Planohttps://www.ispfsb.com/Public/instructors.aspxThe two I called, one in Plano/Celina isn’t teaching classes went to Mississippi while this COVID crap is going on. The other in Houston won’t ever return calls, or emails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted October 4, 2020 at 04:07 AM Share Posted October 4, 2020 at 04:07 AM Texas grill chef, there is a certified IL CCL instructor in Plano, TX. That's where I took my class, and range test.Unlike some states, IL does not require you to actually go to IL to take the class. The ISP website has a listing of instructors in other states. 2 listed in TX, but neither in Planohttps://www.ispfsb.com/Public/instructors.aspxThe two I called, one in Plano/Celina isn’t teaching classes went to Mississippi while this COVID crap is going on. The other in Houston won’t ever return calls, or emails.Perhaps there is someone in a nearby state instead of needing to come to Illinois although may not matter if you are visiting here at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted October 4, 2020 at 04:12 AM Share Posted October 4, 2020 at 04:12 AM How soon can one start the renewal process, or is it limited to 90 days prior to expiration like it is for Texas and a few other states?I think its either 60 or 90 days when the renew button gets activated. However with the new Covid rules in place, expiration, renewal and submission rules in the statute dont matter much. What is the impact of the state's disaster declaration on my FOID expiration date? Firearms Owners Identification (FOID) card holders and Concealed Carry License (CCL) holders, who submit their renewal application will remain valid during the duration of the state's disaster proclamation and for a period of 18 months (previously 12 months) following the termination of the disaster, even if their renewal application is/was not submitted prior to expiration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma Posted October 4, 2020 at 07:01 AM Share Posted October 4, 2020 at 07:01 AM No AW ban or other restrictions on your pistol. As mentioned, no expiration date on the training, but might be best to give it a couple years before working it into the calendar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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