quackersmacker Posted January 18, 2019 at 02:54 AM Share Posted January 18, 2019 at 02:54 AM Very interesting article from The Truth About Guns: https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2019/01/daniel-zimmerman/gun-owners-defy-new-gun-control-laws-in-the-us-and-abroad/?utm_source=wideopen&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wideopen&utm_content=%5B%5Brssitem_title%5D%5D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted January 19, 2019 at 03:40 AM Share Posted January 19, 2019 at 03:40 AM Good article. They just keep trying to chip away at the wrong side of the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShawn Posted January 19, 2019 at 06:10 AM Share Posted January 19, 2019 at 06:10 AM “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”– Ayn Rand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 19, 2019 at 06:20 AM Share Posted January 19, 2019 at 06:20 AM You all ready to start doing it here? Even to the lefitsts that are members, stop playing politics and stand with us. JB and Kwame want YOIR guns too. Fight with us here to win. Settle the other BS on good terms (both sides) later on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheAir Posted January 19, 2019 at 01:46 PM Share Posted January 19, 2019 at 01:46 PM “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”– Ayn RandMy deep rooted hatred for socialism (entitlement?) comes from reading her books at a young age. I suspect my libertarian leanings started there as well. “My dear fellow, who will let you?" “That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?” - Ayn Rand The Fountainhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 19, 2019 at 06:33 PM Share Posted January 19, 2019 at 06:33 PM Very interesting article from The Truth About Guns: https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2019/01/daniel-zimmerman/gun-owners-defy-new-gun-control-laws-in-the-us-and-abroad/?utm_source=wideopen&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wideopen&utm_content=%5B%5Brssitem_title%5D%5DWhat they expect people to do when they pass illegal laws retroactively and are corrupt and committing treason and are paid by billionaires to push their agenda to make legally bought firearms illegal. They have broken their oath to defend the Constitution and have become domestic enemies of the Constitution and people see right through their agenda and know what has happened throughout history after firearms were taken away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45Badger Posted January 19, 2019 at 10:40 PM Share Posted January 19, 2019 at 10:40 PM Some of the comments are hysterical. Looks like Walmart had a post holiday sale on tin foil hat tighteners. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 20, 2019 at 02:35 AM Share Posted January 20, 2019 at 02:35 AM Yeah real funny, not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 20, 2019 at 03:08 AM Share Posted January 20, 2019 at 03:08 AM Yeah real funny, not.I agree. People that think nothing is going on are blind To the mods here. With Pfleger, exposing Gun grabbers, and nailing pittsburgh mayor Bill Peduto (amongst other things), I think I’ve proven, although some of you may disagree, that I can get attention and things done. We need all the help we can get right now. If something needs to get out, please let me know. I’ve networked nationwide with politicians and also activists. If you don’t like what I do solo, then let me at least spread your message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 20, 2019 at 03:55 AM Share Posted January 20, 2019 at 03:55 AM A lot of gun owners are asleep and can't see the real conspiracy to deprive them of their rights. A lot more are apathetic and will regret not doing more. Throughout history freedoms have been taken away under the guise of safety. Keep up the good work Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 20, 2019 at 05:16 AM Share Posted January 20, 2019 at 05:16 AM A lot of gun owners are asleep and can't see the real conspiracy to deprive them of their rights. A lot more are apathetic and will regret not doing more. Throughout history freedoms have been taken away under the guise of safety. Keep up the good work Steve.Thank you. And I will. And I do offer anything I can assist with to the mods/lobbyists here. heck, a certain org here had me speak at two events and it was a success. This is the new way to fight (alongside the classic way). Adapt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted January 23, 2019 at 06:19 PM Share Posted January 23, 2019 at 06:19 PM I will not comply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted January 23, 2019 at 06:52 PM Share Posted January 23, 2019 at 06:52 PM I will not comply.What is written on the Internet stays on the internet forever. I would never admit in writing that I plan to violate any law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 24, 2019 at 08:02 AM Share Posted January 24, 2019 at 08:02 AM I will not comply.What is written on the Internet stays on the internet forever.I would never admit in writing that I plan to violate any law. Everyone knows that but people are being pushed not to care anymore and that is civil disobedience against unconstitutional laws passed with bribes to push the agenda of billionaires. Democrats took the genie out of the bottle two years and openly defy and violate laws they don't like and our Constitutional rights and and force the police not to enforce those laws and they openly defy and threaten the president all over the internet and have created a resistance movement against president Trump and nothing is being done about it. We have a 2nd amendment right and a right to free speech which those countries don't have and both rights are under attack by the same people. It's time to speak out and resist as the democrats say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 24, 2019 at 12:57 PM Share Posted January 24, 2019 at 12:57 PM I will not comply. What is written on the Internet stays on the internet forever.I would never admit in writing that I plan to violate any law.Everyone knows that but people are being pushed not to care anymore and that is civil disobedience against unconstitutional laws passed with bribes to push the agenda of billionaires. Democrats took the genie out of the bottle two years and openly defy and violate laws they don't like and our Constitutional rights and and force the police not to enforce those laws and they openly defy and threaten the president all over the internet and have created a resistance movement against president Trump and nothing is being done about it. We have a 2nd amendment right and a right to free speech which those countries don't have and both rights are under attack by the same people. It's time to speak out and resist as the democrats say. And we are not going to be wearing cute little pink vagina hats either lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchet Posted January 24, 2019 at 01:03 PM Share Posted January 24, 2019 at 01:03 PM And we are not going to be wearing cute little pink vagina hats either lol Yea! Of course not.. *opens up amazon and clicks cancel order* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twostarrz Posted January 24, 2019 at 01:09 PM Share Posted January 24, 2019 at 01:09 PM I think an American version of a “yellow vest” is typically OD green and capable of holding 10”x13”x1” personal protection objects in front and back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted January 24, 2019 at 04:47 PM Share Posted January 24, 2019 at 04:47 PM Looks like there's going to be a lot of defying going on in Illinois now that the grabbers have started down the AWB road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2smartby1/2 Posted January 24, 2019 at 05:18 PM Share Posted January 24, 2019 at 05:18 PM How do they estimate the percentages? I wonder how many AR's and AK's are floating around Illinois? Both legal and illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted January 24, 2019 at 05:41 PM Share Posted January 24, 2019 at 05:41 PM I will not comply.What is written on the Internet stays on the internet forever.I would never admit in writing that I plan to violate any law. A law that doesn't exist yet? If we live in a country where prosecutors can get a search warrant by showing a judge an internet posting about a law that didn't exist when the post was made, I think it'll be time for a revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokehouse Posted January 28, 2019 at 04:56 PM Share Posted January 28, 2019 at 04:56 PM What gets me is how stupid people are concerning these forced "registrations". That I can see, they only have one purpose, future confiscation. Perhaps anyone here could give me another rational reason for such an act, but I cannot see one. They want to know exactly what you have so they can take it from you at will...I see no other purpose. ...that's why the claim of "no one wants to take your guns away" irritates me so much...yes, yes they do, 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 28, 2019 at 05:08 PM Share Posted January 28, 2019 at 05:08 PM What gets me is how stupid people are concerning these forced "registrations". That I can see, they only have one purpose, future confiscation. Perhaps anyone here could give me another rational reason for such an act, but I cannot see one. They want to know exactly what you have so they can take it from you at will...I see no other purpose. ...that's why the claim of "no one wants to take your guns away" irritates me so much...yes, yes they do, 100%.And if you dont comply, the federal government will nuke you (according to Rep. Eric Sealwell) http://i.imgur.com/QRj8DJg.jpg Protect communities by causing nuclear fallout. Great plan!!!! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G214me Posted February 5, 2019 at 02:09 PM Share Posted February 5, 2019 at 02:09 PM What gets me is how stupid people are concerning these forced "registrations". That I can see, they only have one purpose, future confiscation. Perhaps anyone here could give me another rational reason for such an act, but I cannot see one. They want to know exactly what you have so they can take it from you at will...I see no other purpose. ...that's why the claim of "no one wants to take your guns away" irritates me so much...yes, yes they do, 100%.And if you dont comply, the federal government will nuke you (according to Rep. Eric Sealwell) http://i.imgur.com/QRj8DJg.jpg Protect communities by causing nuclear fallout. Great plan!!!! Lol First of all Rep. Eric Swalwell must have something seriously wrong with him to make such an idiotic statement. A politician threatening American citizens he supposedly represents with nuclear attack even in jest is beyond stupid. The second thing is, and I just can't figure it out no matter how hard I try....why on Earth do Democrats / liberals try so hard to have THEIR own rights stripped and have the gov't. run their lives from cradle to grave ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 8, 2019 at 03:12 AM Share Posted February 8, 2019 at 03:12 AM ^^^^ Group think. Ever wondered why many of us can’t even see eye to eye? It’s because we are all individuals and act as such. Also a reason that may eventually be our downfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted February 8, 2019 at 04:36 AM Share Posted February 8, 2019 at 04:36 AM Thought worth reposting: Just had a thought - it happens every now and then. Technically UnConstitutional laws are null and void and don’t need to be followed. States Attorney / prosecutors know this. Thought that came to mind is that why do you think people without a FOID or CCL who used a firearm in a legitimate self defense scenario aren’t charged or prosecuted? Why do you think we haven’t heard about people being charged / prosecuted for bringing firearms on public transportation, or having 15+ round magazines in Chicago or Cook County??? It’s been 5 years. No “test” cases yet? Come on !! They (legislators/prosecutors) KNOW the laws are Unconstitutional!!! I’m beginning to think “they” know that the Anti 2A laws are bogus !! And IF they tried to prosecute, that upon challenge - they WILL lose !! How about those states / towns that passed those bogus registration and “assault” weapons bans??It’s been years on the books in some cases. Anyone arrested? Successfully prosecuted?? Are we really in the Matrix?? Red Pill vs Blue Pill. OR,are these Anti 2A legislators passing these UnConstitutional laws knowing that most of the people will just follow like sheep ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodoun da Vinci Posted February 8, 2019 at 11:45 AM Share Posted February 8, 2019 at 11:45 AM I'm a professional troubleshooter. I fix things that worked yesterday that don't work today and I teach others how to solve problems and troubleshoot effectively. The first thing I teach people who want to solve a problem is to objectively find the root cause of the problem. Doesn't matter what you think it is. You can't feel or guess yer way to a solution. You must correctly identify the root cause and resolve it. And no one has correctly identified the root causes of our failures to stop mass killings in schools, etc. It's not the fact that people want me disarmed that upsets me it's *WHY* they want to disarm me....every living thing has a right to defend it's Life using the best weapons it can deploy. The only reason to disarm a free human is to force him, enslave him, or control him by killing him or his family. People know this. So they want to make us gun owners criminals any way they can by inventing laws they know we will break so they can arrest us, disarm us, and force us to comply because we are defenseless. It's not the fact that they want me disarmed. It's why they want me disarmed and what they plan to do to me once that happens. Once we are disarmed and made to be criminals they can force us to do anything. This is why they want to do this - so they can kill us. VooDoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodoun da Vinci Posted February 8, 2019 at 01:50 PM Share Posted February 8, 2019 at 01:50 PM Another thing that frustrates me about the proposed Illinois law and "non compliance" is that non compliance is a felony with proposed jail time and serious fines. This raises the risk (to me) to an unacceptable level. I have lived in Illinois for essentially 99% of my adult life, paid my taxes, and lived as a law abiding person. I don't even speed, talk on the phone while driving, or break any laws. I take great care to observe the letter of the law in Illinois. And if this passes I'm supposed to make myself a criminal by non compliance. I don't think I can do that. Go to jail over a protest I can/will do but making myself a felon by non compliance is not something I can make register in my brain. VooDoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted February 8, 2019 at 04:55 PM Share Posted February 8, 2019 at 04:55 PM Another thing that frustrates me about the proposed Illinois law and "non compliance" is that non compliance is a felony with proposed jail time and serious fines. This raises the risk (to me) to an unacceptable level. I have lived in Illinois for essentially 99% of my adult life, paid my taxes, and lived as a law abiding person. I don't even speed, talk on the phone while driving, or break any laws. I take great care to observe the letter of the law in Illinois. And if this passes I'm supposed to make myself a criminal by non compliance. I don't think I can do that. Go to jail over a protest I can/will do but making myself a felon by non compliance is not something I can make register in my brain. VooDooVooDoo, what the bottom line is: they are attempting to disarm their *political* opposition. There is another way. Nullification at every level. It's starting, but needs momentum. Depending on your county, get busy getting this implemented with state's attorneys and law enforcement. BTW, the state's attorney in the article? A Democrat: https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2019/02/06/il-states-attorney-vows-not-prosecute-assault-weapon-cases/?fbclid=IwAR1Vq2UKHPCegeDwyLR2_0MaP5vYscrWcGB-NyOyCYSk5zypJH-wJSVk5kY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted February 8, 2019 at 05:00 PM Share Posted February 8, 2019 at 05:00 PM Another thing that frustrates me about the proposed Illinois law and "non compliance" is that non compliance is a felony with proposed jail time and serious fines. This raises the risk (to me) to an unacceptable level. I have lived in Illinois for essentially 99% of my adult life, paid my taxes, and lived as a law abiding person. I don't even speed, talk on the phone while driving, or break any laws. I take great care to observe the letter of the law in Illinois. And if this passes I'm supposed to make myself a criminal by non compliance. I don't think I can do that. Go to jail over a protest I can/will do but making myself a felon by non compliance is not something I can make register in my brain. VooDooThere is always option 3. Rent a small (5' x 5') storage locker in a nearby state, put a gun safe in it and store your banned guns there. As much as our overlords and the ISP wish they have no say about what we have outside Illinois. This way you don't become a felon and get to keep your stuff. Then all you need is to find a range close to where you store your stuff to go shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybgood Posted February 8, 2019 at 05:03 PM Share Posted February 8, 2019 at 05:03 PM We are already set to move out of state. This passes all my non-compliant firearms will be moved out of state until we can move. This state is on its way to total meltdown. Financial crisis is imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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