sweet sweet justice Farmer - the thing on minors isn't so bad, the ruling just says specifically that it falls outside the scope of the 2nd amendment, it could be a 14th amendment issue though maybe. In other words, the IL law that defines what a minor is, is to be considered a separate issue from 2nd amendment rights, thus they didn't find it relevant to the limitations the 2nd amendment puts on government wrt/ right to bear arms...