CHICAGO HANDGUN OWNER Posted October 9, 2018 at 08:36 PM Share Posted October 9, 2018 at 08:36 PM What are the legal penalties in Illinois for a CCL holder that accidentally shoots himself? Is it best to report the incident or just grin and bear it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted October 9, 2018 at 08:37 PM Share Posted October 9, 2018 at 08:37 PM When you go to the hospital for treatment or the doctor, it will be reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted October 9, 2018 at 09:06 PM Share Posted October 9, 2018 at 09:06 PM Probably legally deaf. IANALOJOTSCOTUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted October 9, 2018 at 09:06 PM Share Posted October 9, 2018 at 09:06 PM Unlike in movies or TV, leaving a gunshot wound untreated can easily lead to serious infection and necrosis (gangrene). I don't recommend risking limb amputation or multi-system organ failure as a viable alternative to getting out of a municipal fine. Assuming you weren't trying to kill yourself, you didn't harm anyone else, and you were in legal possession of the gun, you could be charged with reckless discharge of a firearm and/or discharging a firearm within city limits. Those are misdemeanor charges. Depending on the situation, someone might sue you for endangering them. IANAL (or a doctor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted October 9, 2018 at 09:22 PM Share Posted October 9, 2018 at 09:22 PM Tell them it happened outside the city, maybe at an outdoor range in Indiana, you don't exactly remember which one. There was a bench there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted October 9, 2018 at 10:07 PM Share Posted October 9, 2018 at 10:07 PM http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?s=ee73001ad4815079641ee1aa6b20a00f&showtopic=70140 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydawg13 Posted October 9, 2018 at 11:34 PM Share Posted October 9, 2018 at 11:34 PM Know any good Veterinary doctors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted October 9, 2018 at 11:40 PM Share Posted October 9, 2018 at 11:40 PM Know any good Veterinary doctors But if course nobody here would advocate breaking the law. That is against the COC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip74 Posted October 10, 2018 at 12:18 AM Share Posted October 10, 2018 at 12:18 AM Asking for a friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydawg13 Posted October 10, 2018 at 12:35 AM Share Posted October 10, 2018 at 12:35 AM Know any good Veterinary doctorsBut if course nobody here would advocate breaking the law. That is against the COC. I don't know how to type in purple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted October 10, 2018 at 01:09 AM Share Posted October 10, 2018 at 01:09 AM There's that pesky COC - almost as pesky as the Bill of Rights!! Dang Lou!! Don't mess around - get the would professionally treated. Internal damage can be significant. That old cowboy crap of - "Oh it's just a shoulder wound" does not fly.Trust me!!Penalties - What Euler said... IANAL (or a doctor) - me neither... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tchostler Posted October 10, 2018 at 02:17 AM Share Posted October 10, 2018 at 02:17 AM ranges from uuw to attempted murder i guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepointbeing Posted October 10, 2018 at 02:28 AM Share Posted October 10, 2018 at 02:28 AM Extremely unlikely charge(s) would be filed. But, if so, it would likely be 720 ILCS 5/24-1.5 - Reckless discharge of a firearm (Class 4 felony, potential sentence 1-3 years incarceration). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted October 10, 2018 at 02:23 PM Share Posted October 10, 2018 at 02:23 PM Just don't let them suggest any form of consoling to rule out you weren't trying to hurt yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted October 10, 2018 at 03:40 PM Share Posted October 10, 2018 at 03:40 PM When medical help arrives, tell them what happened so that they can initiate the proper treatment. Make sure to say it was accidental. When the police arrive, tell them it was an accident. I wouldn't say more than that without consulting a lawyer. The police are not likely to simply walk away. They're going to investigate. Hopefully they will reach the conclusion that you don't need to be charged with a crime and that a bullet hole is enough punishment..and that you're not a further danger to yourself or others. Honestly, I could see Cook County prosecutors pressing charges and attempting to get your FOID and CCL revoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted October 10, 2018 at 06:55 PM Share Posted October 10, 2018 at 06:55 PM Probably legally deaf. IANALOJOTSCOTUS I love the disclaimer. I had to think about it for a sec. When medical help arrives, tell them what happened so that they can initiate the proper treatment. Make sure to say it was accidental. When the police arrive, tell them it was an accident. I wouldn't say more than that without consulting a lawyer. The police are not likely to simply walk away. They're going to investigate. Hopefully they will reach the conclusion that you don't need to be charged with a crime and that a bullet hole is enough punishment..and that you're not a further danger to yourself or others. Honestly, I could see Cook County prosecutors pressing charges and attempting to get your FOID and CCL revoked.Yes, probably this. Depending on where you live, you may have a strong likelihood of being charged. While you should never lie to the police, there is no need to incriminate yourself by talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim123 Posted October 10, 2018 at 07:17 PM Share Posted October 10, 2018 at 07:17 PM Just when we thought we couldn't find any new type of youtube videos to watch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted October 10, 2018 at 09:04 PM Share Posted October 10, 2018 at 09:04 PM I'd love to know the story behind these vids... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim123 Posted October 10, 2018 at 10:49 PM Share Posted October 10, 2018 at 10:49 PM I'd love to know the story behind these vids...Me too. Probably started/excaladed on Facebook. Time to blame them for a lot of the gun violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted October 11, 2018 at 01:15 AM Share Posted October 11, 2018 at 01:15 AM My wife thinks I'm nuts but I do a lot of "operating" on myself with a pocket knife. I'm no doctor, but it's never been a big thing to me as I have some experience with wounds and do have a strong tolerance for pain.But... I hope those guys get some REAL medical attention - those little holes could go way down south pretty quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted October 11, 2018 at 06:27 PM Share Posted October 11, 2018 at 06:27 PM Yes, probably this. Depending on where you live, you may have a strong likelihood of being charged. While you should never lie to the police, there is no need to incriminate yourself by talking. Lying to the police isn't illegal. HOWEVER...I think it's better to say as little as possible or nothing at all rather than lie. Let your lawyer do the talking. That's what he or she is paid to do...and you will make their job easier (and less expensive) if you say less rather than more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted October 11, 2018 at 06:39 PM Share Posted October 11, 2018 at 06:39 PM $Maybe if you were arguing with yourself, you could claim you shot yourself in self-defense and the SA find you justified$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip74 Posted October 13, 2018 at 08:45 PM Share Posted October 13, 2018 at 08:45 PM If might be best to just drive to Chicago right after it happens and then just go to a hospital and claim you were minding your own business and got shot. They get so many shootings I’m sure they wouldn’t spend much time on it if nobody got killed or seriously injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kster Posted October 13, 2018 at 09:25 PM Share Posted October 13, 2018 at 09:25 PM that's some pretty extreme /r/popping.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted October 14, 2018 at 03:51 AM Share Posted October 14, 2018 at 03:51 AM NM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebillybob Posted October 14, 2018 at 06:07 AM Share Posted October 14, 2018 at 06:07 AM I would say the accident occurred on a boat and the guns were tragically lost after it happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted October 19, 2018 at 12:41 PM Share Posted October 19, 2018 at 12:41 PM Just go get medical attention, let it get reported, say as little as possible about what happened until you talk to a lawyer. It’s your right. You’re not going to be tortured into confessing anything no matter the attitude of those caring for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted October 19, 2018 at 03:30 PM Share Posted October 19, 2018 at 03:30 PM What are the legal penalties in Illinois for a CCL holder that accidentally shoots himself? Is it best to report the incident or just grin and bear it?Happened in Morton Grove the other day and the news report said no charges were filed. I know a guy who had a ND in his Chicago apartment (no injuries) and no charges were filed. But I suspect if the cops really wanted, they could charge with reckless discharge of firearm. How the heck can someone "grin and bear" a gun shot wound?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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