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#1 Rockdiver

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Posted 30 March 2016 - 06:45 PM

INTRO TO DEFENSIVE CARBINE


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WE NOW ALSO RENT "CHICAGO AR" PISTOLS!!!!!!!

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YOU DO NOT NEED A RIFLE. WE HAVE 11 RENTAL RIFLES AVAILABLE IN DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS AND WITH DIFFERENT OPTICS. YOU DO NOT NEED ANY RIFLE EXPERIENCE BEYOND SAFETY.

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**THIS COURSE IS LIMITED TO 10 PERSONS**
PREPAYMENT IS REQUIRED

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Course will cover:
  • BREAKDOWN AND FUNCTION
  • OPTICS CONSIDERATIONS
  • ESTABLISHING COMBAT ZERO
  • VARIABLE DISTANCE DRILLS
  • RAPID RELOAD/ MALFUNCTION DRILLS
  • MOVEMENT
  • USE OF COVER
  • TRANSITIONS TO SIDEARM
  • ADDITIONAL MOVEMENT DRILLS (ABILITY DEPENDENT)
********We will provide Lunch, Water, Gatorade, Shade, tarps for prone, and spiral bound course handouts.********


For IC members:

WE WILL ALSO PROVIDE WEAPON RENTALS @ 50.00 PER DAY TO ANY STUDENT/ W MAGAZINES + SLING + BELT MOUNTED MAG POUCHES.



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RIFLE AMMO>>>>>300 ROUNDS .223REM OR 5.56MM (factory only for rentals) (no tracer or incendiary, AP must be declared and cannot be used on steel reactive targets)

PISTOL AMMO>>>>50 ROUNDS
  • SUNBLOCK
  • PERSONAL SEATING
  • AR-15 RIFLE WITH 3 MAGS AND A SLING
  • SIDEARM W/ STRONGSIDE OWB HOLSTER
  • ABILITY TO CARRY 2 SPARE MAGS ( BDU POCKETS OK, VEST/ BELT POUCHES ARE EASIER)
  • ANY OTHER PERSONAL EQUIPMENT

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Posted 30 March 2016 - 06:46 PM

We are limiting this course to 10 students MAX.

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Posted 30 March 2016 - 07:03 PM

Defensive carbine? I thought they were "Assault weapons."

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Posted 30 March 2016 - 08:12 PM

Watch your mouth. Thats Blasphemy.
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Posted 31 March 2016 - 11:21 AM

Two of us are in check your email.



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Posted 31 March 2016 - 11:38 AM

Gotcha!

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 07:11 PM

Two of us are in check your email.


You have email......
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Posted 02 April 2016 - 12:33 AM

My carbines are not defensive in any way shape or form ;)



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Posted 05 April 2016 - 12:49 PM

My carbines are not defensive in any way shape or form ;)




I take offense to that...


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Posted 05 April 2016 - 02:01 PM

send all these people to infantry basic training they will get what they need there lol.


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Posted 05 April 2016 - 05:30 PM

send all these people to infantry basic training they will get what they need there lol.


Not exactly that simple, but glad it worked for you.
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Posted 05 April 2016 - 11:10 PM

send all these people to infantry basic training they will get what they need there lol.

What 4 days worth of rifle training is all you need?



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Posted 06 April 2016 - 05:39 AM

 

send all these people to infantry basic training they will get what they need there lol.

What 4 days worth of rifle training is all you need?

 

4 days? must be some POG training. go to infantry school and report back on how many weeks you train with a rifle lol.


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Posted 06 April 2016 - 06:17 AM

send all these people to infantry basic training they will get what they need there lol.

No they won't. I'm a former Marine 0311. We also weren't taught it in SOI (School of Infantry). SOI, as I recall it, was a lot of hikes, MOUT training (now referred to as CQB/CQC), learning how to setup claymore mines, cover, concealment, camouflage, how to dig a proper foxhole, the importance of staying awake all night (so that your rifle isn't grabbed and thrown, and you then end up having to find it without a flashlight), what to do if an airplane swoops down at you and shoots, and how to lift a teammate onto an elevated position. I've also been through Rocco's defensive rifle course. Some of the things Rocco teaches isn't taught until you get to your unit and there is time to slow things down so that you learn how to do it properly. Oh, and you don't have to worry about airplanes and claymores in Rocco's course. They're daytime only courses, too.

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 07:00 AM

send all these people to infantry basic training they will get what they need there lol.

What 4 days worth of rifle training is all you need?
4 days? must be some POG training. go to infantry school and report back on how many weeks you train with a rifle lol.

Yes, yes. We can see that you are super cool.

A tier 1 operator, no doubt. But, alas that is not the path for some. Most combat soldiers who have been off FOB would be appalled at the thought of standing on line with folks who did not want to be there.....

I have trained MANY prior military, and have trained MANY young men and women who would be tossing that particular ball around in their near future through my local lodge.

By and large, the handling skills of prior service members were not exceptional. There was a great variance in demonstrable ability, and with pistols.....well....you were presumably there so you know where that is going.


Overall, no guarantees....you assuming so is like someone ASSUMING that all LE are door kicking, fence jumping, ninjas because they went through the acadamy.

Lol

Plenty of threads for you to crap in pal...

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 07:14 AM

Rocco has a solid point. He fixed some issues that I was doing, such as my chicken wing, when I took his course. Arm up, shotgun. Arm down, rifle.
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Posted 06 April 2016 - 07:36 AM


? must be some POG training. go to infantry school and report back on how many weeks you train with a rifle lol.Yes, yes. We can see that you are super cool.

A tier 1 operator, no doubt. But, alas that is not the path for some. Most combat soldiers who have been off FOB would be appalled at the thought of standing on line with folks who did not want to be there.....

I have trained MANY prior military, and have trained MANY young men and women who would be tossing that particular ball around in their near future through my local lodge.

By and large, the handling skills of prior service members were not exceptional. There was a great variance in demonstrable ability, and with pistols.....well....you were presumably there so you know where that is going.


Overall, no guarantees....you assuming so is like someone ASSUMING that all LE are door kicking, fence jumping, ninjas because they went through the acadamy.

Lol

Plenty of threads for you to crap in pal...

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didn't realize your feelings could be hurt so easily. I was simply joking. obviously the infantry is not for everyone.


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Posted 06 April 2016 - 07:42 AM

No hurt feelings. That is misconception I like to kill quickly out of respect for enlisted Mil.

No worries.

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 09:01 AM

1st of all it was my feelings that where hurt.  But not for the reasons you think.  I shoot 3gun all summer long and some of the very best guys in 3gun are former or current MIL/LE.  The Army Marksmanship Unit is just truly awesome to watch.  So some of the very best shooters I have seen and know are former MIL.  Having said that none of them learned that in in infantry basic training.

 

Also most of the people who have graduated from those schools of thought tend to think they are advanced with a rifle, which in most cases is not true unless they took additional training.  So maybe 3% are some of the best I have ever seen and 97% are no better then most people who come to a class.  All of them have my respect for risking their lives for our country.

 

Also for everyone who says 3gun has no relationship to the MIL the current best overall 3gun shooter is an AMU instructor and has won the Army sniper competition 3 years running.  His job is to train MIL to shoot better and he is paid to shoot full time.  It is truly a pleasure to watch him shoot and I will never even be close to his skills.


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Posted 06 April 2016 - 09:59 AM

Joking or not, threadcrapping on a business thread is not right.  It's one thing if I post a thread about getting better with a rifle, and someone posts something sarcastic or joking, but doing it on a thread where a person is trying to conduct business is pretty unthoughtful.  

 

Sorry for the derail Rocco.  Just wanted to get that off my chest.  


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Posted 06 April 2016 - 10:53 AM

Sooookay. Thanks.

Tony...you coming out on the 16th???

Looking at a nice, small group.... all of whom have been through Def Pistol on site. This should be a real mover!!!
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Posted 06 April 2016 - 11:50 AM

Ack....I'm so tempted, but I don't have an OWB for my Shield. Maybe next year.

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 12:19 PM

You are welcome to IWB as I have seen your proficiency and am complrtely comfortable with you doing so.

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 01:56 PM

Ack....I'm so tempted, but I don't have an OWB for my Shield. Maybe next year.

I can loan you a gun for this as well.  I have many choices but the only SW I have is a .22.  On the other hand I have a very nice XD with a good OWB holster and mag pouches.  heck I will even lone you a rifle as well I have a very nice 16 inch.  Just let me know.

 

I may be able to make the 16th I have no 3 gun that weekend so I should be good.


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Posted 06 April 2016 - 05:01 PM

Ack....I'm so tempted, but I don't have an OWB for my Shield. Maybe next year.

I can loan you a gun for this as well.  I have many choices but the only SW I have is a .22.  On the other hand I have a very nice XD with a good OWB holster and mag pouches.  heck I will even lone you a rifle as well I have a very nice 16 inch.  Just let me know.
 
I may be able to make the 16th I have no 3 gun that weekend so I should be good.

Rocco said he's OK with me going IWB so I'll stick with my Shield. Thank you for the offer, though!

Your rifle, on the other hand...I know next to nothing about them. Is your 16" light?

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 05:14 PM

I took it last year. I never had an ar in my hands before. In no time I was shooting real well. Lots of fun.

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 05:45 PM

Oh man it's in Oswego. I live there. Do you do these often? I'll be leaving for Germany for work that day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 05:57 PM

Level one will be done 3 times in 2016.
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Posted 07 April 2016 - 05:24 AM

Level one will be done 3 times in 2016.


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Posted 07 April 2016 - 07:36 AM

Will you offer Advanced Carbine this year?