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#61 JTHunter

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Posted 04 July 2019 - 01:37 PM

Happy Gas Tax Day!

 

How are you going to celebrate? I think I'll grill a roll of $5 bills then blow the remains up with fireworks.

 

I think the gas stations around me played a price fixing game this last week...  About 5 days ago there was about a 25 cent jump in gas prices overnight at pretty much every gas station, seemed odd at the time knowing the tax wasn't here yet, but now that the new 19 cent tax hit today the price didn't budge up or down, not even a penny of shift in price since yesterday, hmm.

 

**From some local social media, it's not just me noticing this, apparently a handful of local gas stations have jumped up in price to over $3, but most are still holding yesterdays price of about $2.75-$2.80.

 

Same here (St. Clair county).  They jumped from as low as $2.469 up to $2.699 by Sunday (6/30).  By Monday afternoon, most were at $2.899 and a couple were at $2.999.


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Posted 04 July 2019 - 01:48 PM

Jeffrey said:

Speaking of Jelly belly, bows, and wasting money.  Nothing I can think of better to waste money than on a boat.  Yes I already know what boat stands for:  https://www.chicagot...6mki-story.html

 

Wouldn't it be a crying shame for there to be a "boat accident" like so many of us have had with our firearms? :drool:  :devil:


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Posted 20 August 2019 - 06:38 PM

Just an update on my exodus from Illinois. All settled in new to me house and Illinois house is sold.

Had to wait about 7 days to get a new Iowa drivers license in the mail. I took a $35 1-2 hour online class and applied online to sheriff's office ($65ish).

Received text message that night that application was received. The next morning ( less than 14hours) my application was approved by text message. Card was received in mail 5-6 days later (weekend included).


Wife has now applied also and is approved, waiting on card.

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Posted 21 August 2019 - 07:28 AM

We moved to Indiana nine years ago.  Many Illinois folks have moved to the northwest Indiana area.  I know some local are afraid they will bring their politics with them.  One thing I will bring up that hasn't been mentioned:  I feel very good that the Illinois criminal socialists no longer directly affect my life.  And yes, if they violated their oath to uphold the Constitution, I consider them criminals.



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Posted 21 August 2019 - 08:39 AM

I'm stuck in my own little predicament...Il house on market for about a month and only 2 walk through. The market is DEAD. My collection escaped to NC, but I'm stuck here until the house sells. Good grief.

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Posted 21 August 2019 - 10:57 AM

I moved out of NY when I was 18 after witnessing the state's bullying of businesses (taxation and other policies) and how they bullied my grandfather's neighborhood (eminent domain).

 

Illinois isn't just taxes, it's the same pattern of bullying by Madigan's Democrats that gives ample reasons to move elsewhere.


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Posted 21 August 2019 - 01:44 PM

I don't plan on going anywhere, I am 11 months away from my lifelong dream of a paid off mortgage. We don't really pay much attention to all the Springfield/Chit-holecago nonsense down in my neck of the woods and I keep a pretty low profile.



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Posted 22 August 2019 - 09:21 PM

I don't plan on going anywhere, I am 11 months away from my lifelong dream of a paid off mortgage. We don't really pay much attention to all the Springfield/Chit-holecago nonsense down in my neck of the woods and I keep a pretty low profile.

 

"Jabba" and "Lurch" are just getting started.  If you start looking now, you might find better digs elsewhere with lower costs (taxes).  Just sayin' - -.


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Posted 23 August 2019 - 12:22 AM

 

I don't plan on going anywhere, I am 11 months away from my lifelong dream of a paid off mortgage. We don't really pay much attention to all the Springfield/Chit-holecago nonsense down in my neck of the woods and I keep a pretty low profile.

 

"Jabba" and "Lurch" are just getting started.  If you start looking now, you might find better digs elsewhere with lower costs (taxes).  Just sayin' - -.

 

 

True, there certainly isn't enough money in Cook and the collar counties to even dent the pension crisis, I believe the the rural counties are going to start to see their property taxes spike, sales tax spike and we might even start to see retirement taxed, the state is simply too far in debt and in the hole at this point.


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Posted 23 August 2019 - 05:17 PM

Who'd wanna leave and miss the impending court-ordered tax increases (/purple) which present a massive constitutional issue as courts have no taxing authority. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk
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Posted 01 September 2019 - 08:03 AM

The disaster which is Illinois is what happens when the state government cares more about themselves and their cronies, than their constituents.

I've got some of those iron-on transfers you can run through your printer.  This saying would make a great tee shirt.

Mind if I use it?

 

My wife will not move.  If anything ever happened to her I would almost give my house away and scram.

Luckily, we are across the river from St. Louis and people still buy houses here and commute to their jobs in the city.

 

Other than one jug for my lawn mower, I have not bought any gas in Illinois since the tax went up.  The only reason I bought the lawn mower gas was I didn't want to drive from MO with the jug of gas in my car any further than I had to, even though it's only 7 miles to Missouri. 


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Posted 01 September 2019 - 12:36 PM

Other than one jug for my lawn mower, I have not bought any gas in Illinois since the tax went up.  The only reason I bought the lawn mower gas was I didn't want to drive from MO with the jug of gas in my car any further than I had to, even though it's only 7 miles to Missouri. 

 

 

Get one of those trailer hitch cargo carriers, so the can is outside the vehicle, mine fits five 5-gallon cans easily, with a drop on plywood box to cover all the cans neatly.


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Posted 02 September 2019 - 06:01 AM

Get one of those trailer hitch cargo carriers, so the can is outside the vehicle, mine fits five 5-gallon cans easily, with a drop on plywood box to cover all the cans neatly.


Carrier should pay for itself in gas savings after about 15 years. Unless he has a really big lawn. If you don’t account for time value and gas of the trip.


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Posted 02 September 2019 - 08:35 AM

Other than one jug for my lawn mower, I have not bought any gas in Illinois since the tax went up.  The only reason I bought the lawn mower gas was I didn't want to drive from MO with the jug of gas in my car any further than I had to, even though it's only 7 miles to Missouri.

 
Get one of those trailer hitch cargo carriers, so the can is outside the vehicle, mine fits five 5-gallon cans easily, with a drop on plywood box to cover all the cans neatly.



You might want to rethink that:

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=1mqu-gRqt3g

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Posted 02 September 2019 - 10:44 AM

 

 

Other than one jug for my lawn mower, I have not bought any gas in Illinois since the tax went up.  The only reason I bought the lawn mower gas was I didn't want to drive from MO with the jug of gas in my car any further than I had to, even though it's only 7 miles to Missouri.

 
Get one of those trailer hitch cargo carriers, so the can is outside the vehicle, mine fits five 5-gallon cans easily, with a drop on plywood box to cover all the cans neatly.



You might want to rethink that:

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=1mqu-gRqt3g

 

 

There is always a worst case what if scenerio, I'm personally not going to live my life in fear of that rare random worst case what if this happens events.

 

I personally burn through about 7-10 gallons of gas just mowing my lawn every week, curious how do you (or would you) transport extra gas for task like this?


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Posted 02 September 2019 - 11:57 AM

We used these fuel jugs with our race car trailer as away to have fuel at the track without paying premium prices they charged on site. You can purchase a second cap and attach a filler hose.

 

https://www.pegasusa...sp?Product=2558


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Posted 02 September 2019 - 07:07 PM

The short answer is: the politicos in Springfield will make my decision for me. If they pass a bunch of new anti 2A laws, we'll be out of Illinois for good in short order.

 

My hope is that we don't have to leave, but we're ready to go. Houses are selling fast in our area. It's all about pricing them properly. If you price at market levels, it'll sell. If you price below market levels, you'll have competing bids (that's my strategy) As a former floor trader in Chicago for my entire career, I know how to make markets work for me. Meanwhile, I'm all in the fight with you folks until the end. I'm ready to give it everything I got, in a respectful, courteous, and polite manner. It's amazing how many replies I've gotten from rabidly anti 2A reps in our state. They replay because I am able to write very good, clear and concise letters, without allowing emotion to enter into them. Gotta stay respectful, no matter what. it's mission critical if you want to be taken seriously.

 

Lastly, I've spent my entire life as a productive, responsible, law abiding citizen. I'll be danged if I'm going to allow a bunch of power hungry politicians turn me into a felon overnight, it's simply not going to happen. I can move out of this state faster than JB can sign any more unconstitutional anti 2A laws, and I will, if that's what it comes to.



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Posted 02 September 2019 - 08:22 PM

Other than one jug for my lawn mower, I have not bought any gas in Illinois since the tax went up.  The only reason I bought the lawn mower gas was I didn't want to drive from MO with the jug of gas in my car any further than I had to, even though it's only 7 miles to Missouri.

 

That "rat race" got too old for me 20 years ago, but I'm lucky that I have club meetings in St. Louis about once a month.  With two 5-gal. cans for regular, two 2-gal. plastic jugs for "premium" for the lawn mowers, and a pair of 1-gal. jugs for the 2-cycle mixes (1 ea. 40:1 & 50:1), I don't believe that I have bought gas in Ill-ANNOY more than once a year since I quit working in St. Louis.

 

The problem is that an aging parent refuses to get out of the house that they basically designed many years ago.  Otherwise, it is likely that I would be in northern AZ or south central WY.  Arizona's state-mandated sales tax is slightly less than Ill-ANNOY's (#7 vs. #8), neither tax Soc. Sec. benefits, both are OC (WY is residents only) but Wyoming's low sales taxes puts them at #44.  From what I can find, they also don't have a state income tax.


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Posted 03 September 2019 - 05:51 AM

I’m in the planning stages of a move out of state, and expect it will be complete by this time next year. I can work my job from anywhere.

I was considering IA, WI and NWI, but it looks like I’m heading to... NH.

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 06:31 AM

I'm like the earlier poster who said his wife won't leave. Mine won't either. If God forbid something happened to her,I'd be gone ASAP. With one set of grandkids in Arl Hts,the other in Robinson,Il,I figure halfway between the two,just over the border in Indiana. Meanwhile,I'm staying. Going to start a new group-STFH[Staying The F___ Here].



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Posted 03 September 2019 - 10:16 PM

This thread seriously illustrates the fact that there are folks that will give up their Rights for 'convenience'.  Very sad.  These same folks will castrate those who don't believe the same as they do for the same reason.


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Posted 05 September 2019 - 07:33 PM

This thread seriously illustrates the fact that there are folks that will give up their Rights for 'convenience'.  Very sad.  These same folks will castrate those who don't believe the same as they do for the same reason.

Nice rant. Your life is obviously very simple. I wish I still had the opportunity to do whatever I want but then jobs, children, family, house, parents aging, and all of that other fun life garbage happens. Many of us cannot simply pick up shop and move right now. It's that simple. There isn't a lack of will. It simply can't happen at the moment. You act as if I'm bending over for Pritzker. No. I've got an employment contract that'll cost me too much to break and I'd rather make sure my kid eats so I will protect what's already mine, bide my time, and get out as soon as I can.

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Posted 06 September 2019 - 06:34 AM

 

This thread seriously illustrates the fact that there are folks that will give up their Rights for 'convenience'.  Very sad.  These same folks will castrate those who don't believe the same as they do for the same reason.

Nice rant. Your life is obviously very simple. I wish I still had the opportunity to do whatever I want but then jobs, children, family, house, parents aging, and all of that other fun life garbage happens. Many of us cannot simply pick up shop and move right now. It's that simple. There isn't a lack of will. It simply can't happen at the moment. You act as if I'm bending over for Pritzker. No. I've got an employment contract that'll cost me too much to break and I'd rather make sure my kid eats so I will protect what's already mine, bide my time, and get out as soon as I can.

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+1 on this reply. I'm older,recently retired. Obviously don't have an employment contract. I do have a marriage contract and if I want to keep it intact I don't pick up and move. I wish my life was simpler where I could leave this state and the Wife Unit would be okay with it. But alas,it isn't. I'll stay and fight. STFH



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Posted 06 September 2019 - 08:53 AM

I'm leaving, but I'm not forgetting. I'll still file slips from my new home to fight with my brothers and sisters in my old home. I still have to visit this place on holidays, so the laws need to improve here either way. As it turns out I also have to fight progressive policy in my new home too. The state is red but turning purple. (Sigh)

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Posted 10 September 2019 - 10:36 PM

Update on my situation: My better half told me tonight, she really doesn't want to leave Illinois. You guys all know, happy wife = happy life. Looks like I'm here for the duration, unless of course she changes her mind. The thing is, she's been my best friend and biggest supporter since the day we met. She doesn't ask for much, so I wouldn't even think of trying to talk her out of her latest decision. The thought of not being a short drive from the kids and grand kids was just too much for her to process, once she gave it some thought. I totally get it.

 

In my business as a professional trader, we faced a lot of ups and downs over the years. It was seriously quite the roller coaster ride. She stood tall and tough throughout and never lost faith in me to provide for our family. Trust me, there were plenty of times when I'd lost faith in myself to do just that. Between my wife, my late mother, and my daughters, I've always been around strong, clear thinking, and wonderful women. I'm lucky and don't take it for granted. So that's my story and I'm fine with it.



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Posted 11 September 2019 - 06:38 AM

Alternative name for Illinois Carry members who plan to move: Illinois Packing   :D


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Posted 11 September 2019 - 08:24 AM

Update on my situation: My better half told me tonight, she really doesn't want to leave Illinois. You guys all know, happy wife = happy life. Looks like I'm here for the duration, unless of course she changes her mind. The thing is, she's been my best friend and biggest supporter since the day we met. She doesn't ask for much, so I wouldn't even think of trying to talk her out of her latest decision. The thought of not being a short drive from the kids and grand kids was just too much for her to process, once she gave it some thought. I totally get it.

 

In my business as a professional trader, we faced a lot of ups and downs over the years. It was seriously quite the roller coaster ride. She stood tall and tough throughout and never lost faith in me to provide for our family. Trust me, there were plenty of times when I'd lost faith in myself to do just that. Between my wife, my late mother, and my daughters, I've always been around strong, clear thinking, and wonderful women. I'm lucky and don't take it for granted. So that's my story and I'm fine with it.

 

Update on my situation: My better half told me tonight, she really doesn't want to leave Illinois. You guys all know, happy wife = happy life. Looks like I'm here for the duration, unless of course she changes her mind. The thing is, she's been my best friend and biggest supporter since the day we met. She doesn't ask for much, so I wouldn't even think of trying to talk her out of her latest decision. The thought of not being a short drive from the kids and grand kids was just too much for her to process, once she gave it some thought. I totally get it.

 

In my business as a professional trader, we faced a lot of ups and downs over the years. It was seriously quite the roller coaster ride. She stood tall and tough throughout and never lost faith in me to provide for our family. Trust me, there were plenty of times when I'd lost faith in myself to do just that. Between my wife, my late mother, and my daughters, I've always been around strong, clear thinking, and wonderful women. I'm lucky and don't take it for granted. So that's my story and I'm fine with it.

 

 

My wife wasn't too keen on Indiana but I talked her into checking out the area and some houses.  She loved the first place we looked at and we have been here nine years now.  Also, the kids can up and move. One daughter moved to Texas, the other is an hour away in Illinois.  We bought seven houses over the years and agree that this is the best one overall.



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Posted 11 September 2019 - 09:10 PM

@spec4 We've been married for a long time and have lived in 4 different houses. The first 3 we built, and the one we're in now we bought when the people who built it had fallen on hard times and couldn't close on it. We got a good deal on it and it fit our needs really well. The house we were in previous to this one, felt too big. After the kids had all finished school and moved out, it felt like an empty warehouse. :) The only thing I can say about moving is that each time we did, it was a huge pain in the #$%. Indiana is great. My folks had a summer home in Michiana Shores, Indiana for a long time. It was roughly 75 minutes from the Loop in Chicago. If we were to move, Indiana would be high on the list for us. It's really great when you like where you live, just makes life a lot better. Other than the taxes and the political shenanigans, I've loved living in Illinois. The Midwest in general is my favorite part of our great country.

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 06:41 AM

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 07:51 AM

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