Euler Posted February 12, 2020 at 08:27 PM Share Posted February 12, 2020 at 08:27 PM Insider A Pennsylvania family is pleading with their school board to reconsider its policy on "threat assessments" for students, after their 6-year-old daughter with Down Syndrome was reported to police for pointing her finger like a gun. Margot Gaines, a kindergartener at the Valley Forge Elementary School in Tredyffrin, Pennsylvania, made the gesture in November and told her teacher, "I shoot you," according to her mother, Maggie. ... Maggie said the teacher perceived the response as a "threat" and brought Margot to the principal, who realized that Margot was no danger to the teacher or her classmates. But instead of dropping the incident, the principal followed a school district policy requiring a "threat assessment" team to be convened and decide whether disciplinary action was warranted. ... Maggie said school officials called the police department and provided authorities with the Gaines' personal information, as well as information on the incident. Maggie said in her statement that an officer told her the information would be entered into the department's database and would be publicly available. "Because the school staff and administration chose to blindly follow this policy, an incident that resulted in no disciplinary action ... is part of her permanent school record," she said. "What's more, her personal information has also been recorded at our local police department, where it is noted, without any context to the situation or her disability that she 'threatened' her teacher. How or if this information will be used against her in the future, I can't say for certain." ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted February 12, 2020 at 08:49 PM Share Posted February 12, 2020 at 08:49 PM Not to change this stupid train wreck of thought by adults But didn’t a kid get in trouble at school for making his pop tart in a L shape line a gun and got suspended Why won’t adults who are supposed to be more mature and skater than small kids, why won’t they let them be kids and grow up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted February 12, 2020 at 09:00 PM Share Posted February 12, 2020 at 09:00 PM Not to change this stupid train wreck of thought by adultsBut didn’t a kid get in trouble at school for making his pop tart in a L shape line a gun and got suspended Why won’t adults who are supposed to be more mature and skater than small kids, why won’t they let them be kids and grow up Because they are too many communists in the system pushing an agenda. I recall a time when principles in private schools had a paddle and the kids knew about it, don't want to get the paddle.... Don't ____ around. Now the schools call the SWAT team on a 6 year old child with down syndrome. Yes, the pop tart case is real. ( I don't want to pick one stupid article about it, so here is a whole search engine worth of articles on it ) https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pop+tart+gun&t=ffab&ia=web Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted February 12, 2020 at 10:04 PM Share Posted February 12, 2020 at 10:04 PM If I was the cop who responded to this, the person reporting it would have been the one who got arrested (I would figure out some charge beside being stupid). If it was my kid, when I got done suing the teacher, the administrator, school board etc, I would OWN everything they own and would also get to tear up their credentials so they could never work in a school again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDoctor Posted February 12, 2020 at 10:40 PM Share Posted February 12, 2020 at 10:40 PM Unbelievable, but in today's sissy climate it seems entirely possible.**** me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phox Posted February 13, 2020 at 12:31 AM Share Posted February 13, 2020 at 12:31 AM We spoke about this in class actually (I am an education major). I am not sure why this report differs from the other ones, but in the other reports the teacher said they never felt like there was a threat. Because of policy they had to report to administration, who then also felt like there was no threat but had to convene a safety committee, which involves the police, due to policy. For what it’s worth, at least for my class, everybody thinks this is a terrible policy. My opinion is that this incident will harm the child more than it will help anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC Posted February 13, 2020 at 12:41 AM Share Posted February 13, 2020 at 12:41 AM What stupid policy. Probably the same people who are coming up with common sense gun control. Let kids be kids. Finger guns dont kill people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted February 13, 2020 at 01:26 AM Share Posted February 13, 2020 at 01:26 AM LWW's do not operate by logic and reason. They operate by FEEEEEEEEELINGS. They FEEL like being totaltiarian, they FEEL like brainwashing kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman Posted February 13, 2020 at 01:43 AM Share Posted February 13, 2020 at 01:43 AM Don't forget about the little kid that chewed his pizza slice into a "gun". Not only was he severely dealt with, but the the school brought in counselors for anyone who felt traumatized by the incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billzfx4 Posted February 13, 2020 at 01:53 AM Share Posted February 13, 2020 at 01:53 AM This poor kid is being treated worse than real criminals with actual guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted February 13, 2020 at 02:00 AM Share Posted February 13, 2020 at 02:00 AM Sadly common sense isn’t very common anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriots & Tyrants Posted February 13, 2020 at 02:00 AM Share Posted February 13, 2020 at 02:00 AM If I was a cop that was called out on this case I'd seriously arrest the School Official who made the call for mis-use of 911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman Posted February 13, 2020 at 02:46 AM Share Posted February 13, 2020 at 02:46 AM If I was a cop that was called out on this case I'd seriously arrest the School Official who made the call for mis-use of 911.That just might be the wake up call the schools need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsoldier321 Posted February 13, 2020 at 07:46 AM Share Posted February 13, 2020 at 07:46 AM Not that simple unfortunately. At least in Illinois, law enforcement is now at the table with these threat assessment teams. It is a new mandate that says LEO is to be a member of the threat assessment team, and they are contacted at the very least, and notified of any identified/percieved threat. If no crime is committed, law enforcement may walk away from that table, but as pointed out in the article, they are going to typically generate a report about the incident as a means of cya. And just cause they walk away does not mean the student is not still evaluated or assessed in some form or capacity on the school side. The schools will basically force a threat assessment/evaluation or say no re-entry to school for the student. Each scenario is unique of course, but just in general, that is why LEO is going to be called on anything the threat assessment team might meet on, cause by default, LEO is a member of said team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted February 13, 2020 at 11:56 AM Share Posted February 13, 2020 at 11:56 AM These freaking libs are sick. Just sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted February 13, 2020 at 12:06 PM Share Posted February 13, 2020 at 12:06 PM These schools have way too much power over the students and families in general.The parents should pull the kid out of that school immediately and not "plead" with them for anything. Cease all communication with the school and any police who choose to participate in this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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