GWBH Posted January 3, 2013 at 10:21 PM Share Posted January 3, 2013 at 10:21 PM I can't stand it when only half truths are given. Its always the bad NRA vs the legislature. The laws sought to hurt virtually every gun owner in Illinois and make them into criminals overnight. I want to see that printed, not loss of jobs for gun manufacturers as the only setback. Why weren't the range aspects in any of these pieces? Nothing in the bill had anything to do with "Assault Weapons" Laws that group a .22 pocket pistol and an AR15 together and label them assault weapons is INCONCEIVABLE !!! Not to mention these laws are unworkable and unconstitutional yet there is absolutely no media coverage on that... They totally misrepresented this crap and they need to hear it!!! Oh... I'm going to let them hear about it.. I'll be nice and all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 3, 2013 at 11:13 PM Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 at 11:13 PM Executive is still going strong with the marriage bill. I'll be way for awhile but will be back later with updates if any are needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper13 Posted January 3, 2013 at 11:55 PM Share Posted January 3, 2013 at 11:55 PM Thank you for your help. Just learned today about the slips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted January 4, 2013 at 12:04 AM Share Posted January 4, 2013 at 12:04 AM Senate is back in. Just passed HB1237, restoration of FOID to LEOS that have it seized because they were a patient in a mental institution. Passed 35-14. So, we can have crazy cops with a gun. Apologies to all crazy LEO's here. Seriously, all the talk in the last 3 weeks about mental health, guns, etc. and they pick now to pass this bill??? Really?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flw Posted January 4, 2013 at 12:09 AM Share Posted January 4, 2013 at 12:09 AM Cops that need help should be able get it but so should security personal. No double standards. Unless your a politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 4, 2013 at 12:22 AM Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 at 12:22 AM Senate Supplemental Calendar #1 is now attached to the opening post. I see that both recent amendments to HB815 and HB1263 are reported as postponed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. 1911 Posted January 4, 2013 at 12:24 AM Share Posted January 4, 2013 at 12:24 AM Senate is back in. Just passed HB1237, restoration of FOID to LEOS that have it seized because they were a patient in a mental institution. Passed 35-14. So, we can have crazy cops with a gun. Apologies to all crazy LEO's here. Seriously, all the talk in the last 3 weeks about mental health, guns, etc. and they pick now to pass this bill??? Really??This is too funny yet sad at the same time. when seconds count help is minutes away, in a straight jacket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 4, 2013 at 01:09 AM Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 at 01:09 AM The Senate stands adjourned until 1/8/2013 or to the call of the President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 4, 2013 at 01:13 AM Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 at 01:13 AM Senate Supplemental Calendar #2 is available in the opening post if anyone needs a copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flw Posted January 4, 2013 at 01:29 AM Share Posted January 4, 2013 at 01:29 AM What a day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klcarroll Posted January 4, 2013 at 01:40 AM Share Posted January 4, 2013 at 01:40 AM I am new to this forum: .....And I would like to thank Mauserme for his efforts! KLC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 4, 2013 at 01:40 AM Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 at 01:40 AM What a day.... You said it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 4, 2013 at 01:42 AM Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 at 01:42 AM I am new to this forum: .....And I would like to thank Mauserme for his efforts! KLC Welcome to the forum KLC. I'm glad to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federal Farmer Posted January 4, 2013 at 03:14 AM Share Posted January 4, 2013 at 03:14 AM That's not my understanding of how home rule works. They can enact stricter laws, not less strict. Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 2 I thought I read on here that home rule could do either, as long as it addressed the subject at hand. For instance, 12 round mags are legal in chicago, but not in greater cook county, which is limited to 10. Perhaps they just screwed up the law though, IDK... That is a different aspect of home rule. First aspect, state law can preempt the home rule of a municipality (such as a city or county). A municipality cannot override state law. Home rule allows a municipality to enact a statute that is more strict than state law, but they cannot enact a statute that contradicts state law. Second aspect, a county ordinance cannot override a city ordinance. This is why Chicago can have a magazine capacity limit of 12 while Cook County limits them to 10. When a county ordinance disagrees with the ordinance of a home rule city in that county, the city ordinance trumps. So currently, the state has no restriction on magazine capacity. Cook County limits to 10. Any home rule entity within Cook County can enact an ordinance restricting that further (such as 5) or loosening it (such as 12 or unlimited). Were the state to limit magazine capacities, home rule entities such as counties and cities could enact stricter ordinances but could not enact an ordinance that contradicted the state law. If a state law is written to preempt home rule, then the county or city cannot legislate that in any way, either restricted or loosened. One last thing, last I heard there was only one home rule county in IL. I think a county must have a certain population in order to be eligible for home rule and until this last census, only Cook had the population. I think DuPage might now be eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted January 4, 2013 at 03:23 AM Share Posted January 4, 2013 at 03:23 AM Here's the section from the Illinois Constitution: and a link to the article of the constitution dealing with Local Government. SECTION 6. POWERS OF HOME RULE UNITS (a) A County which has a chief executive officer electedby the electors of the county and any municipality which hasa population of more than 25,000 are home rule units. Othermunicipalities may elect by referendum to become home ruleunits. Except as limited by this Section, a home rule unitmay exercise any power and perform any function pertaining toits government and affairs including, but not limited to, thepower to regulate for the protection of the public health,safety, morals and welfare; to license; to tax; and to incurdebt. ( b ) A home rule unit by referendum may elect not to be ahome rule unit. ( c ) If a home rule county ordinance conflicts with anordinance of a municipality, the municipal ordinance shallprevail within its jurisdiction. (d) A home rule unit does not have the power (1) toincur debt payable from ad valorem property tax receiptsmaturing more than 40 years from the time it is incurred or(2) to define and provide for the punishment of a felony. (e) A home rule unit shall have only the power that theGeneral Assembly may provide by law (1) to punish byimprisonment for more than six months or (2) to license forrevenue or impose taxes upon or measured by income orearnings or upon occupations. (f) A home rule unit shall have the power subject toapproval by referendum to adopt, alter or repeal a form ofgovernment provided by law, except that the form ofgovernment of Cook County shall be subject to the provisionsof Section 3 of this Article. A home rule municipality shallhave the power to provide for its officers, their manner ofselection and terms of office only as approved by referendumor as otherwise authorized by law. A home rule county shallhave the power to provide for its officers, their manner ofselection and terms of office in the manner set forth inSection 4 of this Article. (g) The General Assembly by a law approved by the voteof three-fifths of the members elected to each house may denyor limit the power to tax and any other power or function ofa home rule unit not exercised or performed by the Stateother than a power or function specified in subsection (l) ofthis section. (h) The General Assembly may provide specifically by lawfor the exclusive exercise by the State of any power orfunction of a home rule unit other than a taxing power or apower or function specified in subsection (l) of thisSection. (i) Home rule units may exercise and performconcurrently with the State any power or function of a homerule unit to the extent that the General Assembly by law doesnot specifically limit the concurrent exercise orspecifically declare the State's exercise to be exclusive. (j) The General Assembly may limit by law the amount ofdebt which home rule counties may incur and may limit by lawapproved by three-fifths of the members elected to each housethe amount of debt, other than debt payable from ad valoremproperty tax receipts, which home rule municipalities mayincur. (k) The General Assembly may limit by law the amount andrequire referendum approval of debt to be incurred by homerule municipalities, payable from ad valorem property taxreceipts, only in excess of the following percentages of theassessed value of its taxable property: (1) if its populationis 500,000 or more, an aggregate of three percent; (2) if itspopulation is more than 25,000 and less than 500,000, anaggregate of one percent; and (3) if its population is 25,000or less, an aggregate of one-half percent. Indebtedness whichis outstanding on the effective date of this Constitution orwhich is thereafter approved by referendum or assumed fromanother unit of local government shall not be included in theforegoing percentage amounts. (l) The General Assembly may not deny or limit the powerof home rule units (1) to make local improvements by specialassessment and to exercise this power jointly with othercounties and municipalities, and other classes of units oflocal government having that power on the effective date ofthis Constitution unless that power is subsequently denied bylaw to any such other units of local government or (2) tolevy or impose additional taxes upon areas within theirboundaries in the manner provided by law for the provision ofspecial services to those areas and for the payment of debtincurred in order to provide those special services. (m) Powers and functions of home rule units shall beconstrued liberally.(Source: Illinois Constitution.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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