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Hawaii makes California look like a conservative pro gun state.

 

The Hawaii State Attorney General recently ruled that federally passed HR218, the retired LEO carry act, does not apply in the state of Hawaii. By his ruling out of state LEOs can only carry if they are actively working as a LEO in Hawaii and then only with permission.

This is entirely against what HR218 was meant to correct.

Retired officers cannot carry by his fiat and they even go so far as to deny carry permits to their own officers when they retire.

 

Hawaii has a May Issue law on the books but as far as anyone can determine, there has never been one issued.

 

They are so @#$@&* arrogant that they refuse to even acknowledge the recipient of a FOIA request asking for the number of carry permits issued. I know because I tried.

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Hawaii makes California look like a conservative pro gun state.

The Hawaii State Attorney General recently ruled that federally passed HR218, the retired LEO carry act, does not apply in the state of Hawaii. By his ruling out of state LEOs can only carry if they are actively working as a LEO in Hawaii and then only with permission.

This is entirely against what HR218 was meant to correct.

Retired officers cannot carry by his fiat and they even go so far as to deny carry permits to their own officers when they retire.

Hawaii has a May Issue law on the books but as far as anyone can determine, there has never been one issued.

They are so @#$@&* arrogant that they refuse to even acknowledge the recipient of a FOIA request asking for the number of carry permits issued. I know because I tried.

Unaccountable bureaucrats = tyrants.

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Can someone confirm this to true?

 

Has Hawaii really sent to Federal Congress to amend or repeal 2nd admenment

 

It appears five state senators introduced a resolution, which would essentially be Hawaii writing a letter to Congress asking to pretty please amend or repeal the 2nd Amendment. It doesn't appear it's received any action beyond being introduced there.

 

On top, the authors also are outright lying when they claim:

 

WHEREAS, in 1939, the United States Supreme Court adopted a collective rights approach under United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939) by determining that the United States Congress could regulate a sawed-off shotgun that had moved in interstate commerce under the National Firearms Act of 1934

 

The Court in Miller of course did no such thing as adopt a "collective rights" approach. That's nothing but historical revisionism to try to push their agenda.

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WHEREAS, under this "individual right theory", the United States Constitution restricts legislative bodies from prohibiting firearm possession, or at the very least, the Second Amendment renders prohibitory and restrictive regulation presumptively unconstitutional; and

 

They just can't accept that they have no power to snatch this right away from us.

 

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WHEREAS, under this "individual right theory", the United States Constitution restricts legislative bodies from prohibiting firearm possession, or at the very least, the Second Amendment renders prohibitory and restrictive regulation presumptively unconstitutional; and

They just can't accept that they have no power to snatch this right away from us.

 

Amazing how the author views individual rights under the Constitution as a "theory"...

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WHEREAS, under this "individual right theory", the United States Constitution restricts legislative bodies from prohibiting firearm possession, or at the very least, the Second Amendment renders prohibitory and restrictive regulation presumptively unconstitutional; and

They just can't accept that they have no power to snatch this right away from us.

 

Hence the reason they try to chip away little by little.

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WHEREAS, under this "individual right theory", the United States Constitution restricts legislative bodies from prohibiting firearm possession, or at the very least, the Second Amendment renders prohibitory and restrictive regulation presumptively unconstitutional; and

 

They just can't accept that they have no power to snatch this right away from us.

Hence the reason they try to chip away little by little.

Yep, and we still have people that are willing to compromise.

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Can someone confirm this to true?

Has Hawaii really sent to Federal Congress to amend or repeal 2nd admenment

 

It appears five state senators introduced a resolution, which would essentially be Hawaii writing a letter to Congress asking to pretty please amend or repeal the 2nd Amendment. It doesn't appear it's received any action beyond being introduced there.

 

On top, the authors also are outright lying when they claim:

 

WHEREAS, in 1939, the United States Supreme Court adopted a collective rights approach under [/size]United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939) by determining that the United States Congress could regulate a sawed-off shotgun that had moved in interstate commerce under the National Firearms Act of 1934[/size]

The Court in Miller of course did no such thing as adopt a "collective rights" approach. That's nothing but historical revisionism to try to push their agenda.

Are those 5 senators by doing this conspiring to deprive of rights as defined in federal law as conspiracy against rights?
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“We don’t want your guns, we just want common sense gun safety laws”..................

Anyone willing to “compromise” nowadays is a fool

^^^^100% absolutely this^^^^
How about this for a compromise.

Everyone that is actively trying to violate the 2nd amendment should be arrested for conspiracy against rights and sentenced to the the maximum sentence.

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“We don’t want your guns, we just want common sense gun safety laws”..................

Anyone willing to “compromise” nowadays is a fool

^^^^100% absolutely this^^^^
How about this for a compromise.

Everyone that is actively trying to violate the 2nd amendment should be arrested for conspiracy against rights and sentenced to the the maximum sentence.

 

Those willing to give up their 2A rights should give up all of their rights to show their commitment.

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I hope some of those 82000 sealed indictments deal with this stuff.
Look at where the majority of the sealed proceedings are in Illinois. They're in the central district of Illinois. Which has jurisdiction over....Springfield.

 

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They are welcome to leave, we don't need Hawaii.

Wait a minute, I like macidanium nuts and pineapples.

 

Then it's time to learn to live without them.

 

 

Maybe the U.S. should kick out states that elect left-wing Democrat governors and legislatures. Maybe it is time that we learn to live without them too.

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