Str8Shooter Posted May 30, 2019 at 07:13 PM Share Posted May 30, 2019 at 07:13 PM Does the felonious omission of reporting cannabis use on a 4473 constitute a refusal to testify against one's self, a right guaranteed by the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution?Nope it does not since you have the option of simply not purchasing the firearm. You don't NEED to do it to comply with the law. Compliance would be answering yes or simply not proceeding with the transfer since it (the firearm) is NOT in your possession when you attest on the 4473. If that logic makes sense heh. It's much different than the state mandating gun registration. THAT is a violation of the 5A Self-incrimination Clause, incorporated and all that jazz, because it requires those who already unlawfully possess a firearm to register it, thereby incriminating themselves as they are forced to report to the state that they illegally possess a firearm. See Haynes v. United States, 390 U.S. 85 (1968). Haynes was a convicted felon and did not register an NFA item. He argued that the registration requirement violated his 5A right against self-incrimination by requiring him to tell the federal government that he's committing a crime and SCOTUS agreed, with only Justice Earl Warren in dissent. That defect in the NFA was cured and litigated in US v. Freed but still (theoretically) prohibits state-level gun registration schemes. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk I knew there was a 5th Amendment case somewhat related to my question. I expected it would be too much for it to be on point. Thanks, skinnyb82. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted May 30, 2019 at 07:31 PM Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 at 07:31 PM Set for 3:00 p.m. committee hearing today. See alert post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmHand357 Posted May 30, 2019 at 07:32 PM Share Posted May 30, 2019 at 07:32 PM Spoke with my Senator's office, he's against and will vote no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted May 30, 2019 at 07:42 PM Share Posted May 30, 2019 at 07:42 PM Something tells me we can sign all the witness slips we want and they won't do any good. The Senate is going to make like Elvis and hit us with the Steamroller Blues: I'm a steamroller babyI'm 'bout to roll all over youI'm a steamroller babyI'm 'bout to roll all over you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith44 Posted May 30, 2019 at 08:52 PM Share Posted May 30, 2019 at 08:52 PM Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 30, 2019 at 09:01 PM Share Posted May 30, 2019 at 09:01 PM SB1966 will not be called today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzle Posted May 30, 2019 at 09:37 PM Share Posted May 30, 2019 at 09:37 PM Are todays witness slips still active if they meet tomorrow? Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 30, 2019 at 09:52 PM Share Posted May 30, 2019 at 09:52 PM Are todays witness slips still active if they meet tomorrow? Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk No, they will remain part of the record but will not have any effect on future hearings. We'll send another alert for new witness slips if the bill is re-scheduled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny15 Posted May 30, 2019 at 11:15 PM Share Posted May 30, 2019 at 11:15 PM Called my senators office today and left a message also sent a lengthy email in my opposition to the fix the foid act. Does anyone know If DeWitt is a pro 2nd republican? Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted May 31, 2019 at 12:41 AM Share Posted May 31, 2019 at 12:41 AM ^^^^ He’s pro. I’ve spoken with his staff before. We don’t need to worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 31, 2019 at 12:49 AM Share Posted May 31, 2019 at 12:49 AM We have his SB2241 in our oppose list, but there are other legislators we usually call pro-gun with similar bills in the same list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny15 Posted May 31, 2019 at 01:24 AM Share Posted May 31, 2019 at 01:24 AM My rep is skillicorn who I have emailed with several times. So I know he is pro 2nd. I'm so glad I moved out of cook county. At least for now I am In a 2nd supporting district. Sent from my SM-G892U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglebob Posted May 31, 2019 at 02:44 AM Share Posted May 31, 2019 at 02:44 AM Senate Witness slips. http://my.ilga.gov/Hearing/HearingDetail/17389?SCommittees5/31/2019-page=1&SCommittees5/31/2019-orderBy=&SCommittees5/31/2019-filter=&committeeid=0&chamber=S&nodays=1&_=1559243400077 Can I still submit a witness slip. I keep getting error messages. First it wants a 3 digit number in the address, mine has a 2 digit number and so I try doing the witness slip again and it says invalid character in the address, couldn't find any. I know my Bryan my state rep opposes SB1966 as she has been running commercials on the radio in opposition. Schimpf my state senator has introduced a bill for carry in rest areas, and another for carry in parks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 31, 2019 at 02:53 AM Share Posted May 31, 2019 at 02:53 AM You should be able to for another couple hours. Try the links in the opening post of this alert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tip Posted May 31, 2019 at 11:50 AM Share Posted May 31, 2019 at 11:50 AM Senate Witness slips. http://my.ilga.gov/Hearing/HearingDetail/17389?SCommittees5/31/2019-page=1&SCommittees5/31/2019-orderBy=&SCommittees5/31/2019-filter=&committeeid=0&chamber=S&nodays=1&_=1559243400077 Can I still submit a witness slip. I keep getting error messages. First it wants a 3 digit number in the address, mine has a 2 digit number and so I try doing the witness slip again and it says invalid character in the address, couldn't find any. Try removing all punctuation from your address — i.e. E Main St not E. Main St. Might not be it but I’ve had that error before and it disappeared when punctuation was removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted May 31, 2019 at 12:00 PM Share Posted May 31, 2019 at 12:00 PM Can I still submit a witness slip. I keep getting error messages. First it wants a 3 digit number in the address, mine has a 2 digit number and so I try doing the witness slip again and it says invalid character in the address, couldn't find any.The invalid character can be a trailing space. Try looking for extra spaces, and having no space at the end of the address. I tend to take this, and a couple of other things, up with the ILGA webmaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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