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#61 Mick G

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 11:43 AM

Seanator just said "House doesn't always get these bills right".  Understatement of the year.

 

I think they "partake".



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Posted 31 May 2019 - 11:43 AM

Are witness slips still open for 1966 in the Senate?


Should be.
Can someone post a link to where we can file a witness slip?
I can find the slips others have filed but it wont let me add my own.
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No witness slips are available currently as the bill is not scheduled for a committee hearing.

Prior meeting slip links were in the call to action, alert, and GA posts.

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 11:51 AM

Just got an alert from ISRA...

 

"The bill will remain held in this committee, and the spring legislative session will end at Midnight without passage of this bill in the Illinois Senate"



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Posted 31 May 2019 - 11:54 AM

good news --

witness slips in action



#65 Mick G

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 11:57 AM

Just got an alert from ISRA...

 

"The bill will remain held in this committee, and the spring legislative session will end at Midnight without passage of this bill in the Illinois Senate"

 

Just got an alert from ISRA...

 

"The bill will remain held in this committee, and the spring legislative session will end at Midnight without passage of this bill in the Illinois Senate"

 

Without going into detail, I wonder why not?



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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:02 PM

Are witness slips still open for 1966 in the Senate?


Should be.
Can someone post a link to where we can file a witness slip?
I can find the slips others have filed but it wont let me add my own.
Thanks

When the question was asked last night it was still possible to file slips, but only until midnight.

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:02 PM

I read it as they don't have the votes to pass.
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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:02 PM

Wonder if they're counting on pulling a fast one when the next session rolls around? 


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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:02 PM

got a meeting, off the Senate for now


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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:04 PM

ISRA email that just went out

 

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:05 PM

From what I saw there was an onslaught of calls against this bill. Many Senators were not answering there phones.



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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:06 PM

 

Just got an alert from ISRA...

 

"The bill will remain held in this committee, and the spring legislative session will end at Midnight without passage of this bill in the Illinois Senate"

 

Just got an alert from ISRA...

 

"The bill will remain held in this committee, and the spring legislative session will end at Midnight without passage of this bill in the Illinois Senate"

 

Without going into detail, I wonder why not?

 

Theory.  Senate Dems KNOW this is an unconstitutional bill now.  They know it will be challenged/injuncted in court.  They also don't want to go on record as voting no, for their bases.  In Fall it will need a super majority, which is likely it doesn't happen, thus more face saving OR they simply want to see how current FOID lawsuits pan out. 


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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:09 PM

I don't do theories on an open forum.

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:11 PM

I think the bill would have generated a lot of backlash... maybe the Senate Dems realized that. There are a ton of FOID holders who are not politically active and probably didn’t even realize this was in the table. Every year during renewals they would have angry constituents discovering that now they have to submit prints to keep their card. It’s something that would still upset people who maybe aren’t always as solid pro 2a as those in this site. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:13 PM

I think the bill would have generated a lot of backlash... maybe the Senate Dems realized that. There are a ton of FOID holders who are not politically active and probably didn’t even realize this was in the table. Every year during renewals they would have angry constituents discovering that now they have to submit prints to keep their card. It’s something that would still upset people who maybe aren’t always as solid pro 2a as those in this site.


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Not to mention, how would've FTIP checks been affected for people who hadn't uploaded prints yet?

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:14 PM

My theory is that the bill doesn't go far enough to infringe on our rights so they will hold out until a more onerous bill can be sent to the House.

Stupid speelchick.

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:19 PM

I know some here don't think that witness slips are worthwhile or that phone calls don't make a difference, but I'd like to think that those efforts led to this result.  I want to take the opportunity to thank Mauser, Molly and all of the members here for your efforts, I hate to think where Illinois would be without all of you.  Thanks for doing what you do!



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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:23 PM

I know some here don't think that witness slips are worthwhile or that phone calls don't make a difference, but I'd like to think that those efforts led to this result.  I want to take the opportunity to thank Mauser, Molly and all of the members here for your efforts, I hate to think where Illinois would be without all of you.  Thanks for doing what you do!

 

I'll 2nd that!!!!



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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:26 PM

 

I know some here don't think that witness slips are worthwhile or that phone calls don't make a difference, but I'd like to think that those efforts led to this result.  I want to take the opportunity to thank Mauser, Molly and all of the members here for your efforts, I hate to think where Illinois would be without all of you.  Thanks for doing what you do!

 

I'll 2nd that!!!!

 

3rd!.....I barely have the time, sanity, and patience it would require to be as active as you guys.



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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:29 PM

From what I saw there was an onslaught of calls against this bill. Many Senators were not answering there phones.

do they ever answer?

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:40 PM

From what I saw there was an onslaught of calls against this bill. Many Senators were not answering there phones.

do they ever answer?
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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:41 PM

I know some here don't think that witness slips are worthwhile or that phone calls don't make a difference, but I'd like to think that those efforts led to this result.  I want to take the opportunity to thank Mauser, Molly and all of the members here for your efforts, I hate to think where Illinois would be without all of you.  Thanks for doing what you do!

 
I'll 2nd that!!!!
3rd!.....I barely have the time, sanity, and patience it would require to be as active as you guys.

4th. They sure as heck don’t hurt!

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:49 PM

Did ya catch the lady Rep who pointed out that the MJ bill will allow convicted users to get a FOID?



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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:50 PM



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What?!?!?!?

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:51 PM

Did ya catch the lady Rep who pointed out that the MJ bill will allow convicted users to get a FOID?

They are currently able to get a FOID/CCL. They just cant buy any firearms under the new bill. Another case of legislators not knowing what they say...or intentionally mistating fact.

edit...i was speaking to MJ card holders. Not sure about convictions but if they are doing expungements then I would assume so.

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:52 PM

Did ya catch the lady Rep who pointed out that the MJ bill will allow convicted users to get a FOID?


I'm not able to listen today. But I am perfectly OK with that. If you believe in gun rights, you cant believe in gun rights for only some.

I also believe the government has no place telling us what we can or can not put in our own bodies.

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 01:01 PM

Senate concurs on SB1139. Amendment makes renewal expiration of CCL 5 yrs from date on card, not when ISP processes. Off to governor for signature.

Hope I get my card before this kicks in or I will now lose time for waiting to renew LOL. edit: I wont lose time on my 5 years but wont get the extra anticipated by renewing later.

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 01:04 PM

Senate concurs on SB1139. Amendment makes renewal expiration of CCL 5 yrs from date on card, not when ISP processes. Off to governor for signature.

Hope I get my card before this kicks in or I will now lose time for waiting to renew LOL

Explain?


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Posted 31 May 2019 - 01:05 PM

Senate concurs on SB1139. Amendment makes renewal expiration of CCL 5 yrs from date on card, not when ISP processes. Off to governor for signature.
Hope I get my card before this kicks in or I will now lose time for waiting to renew LOL

I wish they'd make that retroactive! I lost several months when I renewed in October.

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 01:07 PM

Senate concurs on SB1139. Amendment makes renewal expiration of CCL 5 yrs from date on card, not when ISP processes. Off to governor for signature.
Hope I get my card before this kicks in or I will now lose time for waiting to renew LOL

Explain?
apply early for your renewal and you might lose a month or two of your 5 year license. If the governor signs sb1139, this becomes a non issue.

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