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Brad Vercosa has passed Jimmy's Sport Shop in Mineola, Long Island countless times, but last Thursday he approached the counter, still in his slippers, to buy his first gun. The construction company owner is one of nearly five million Americans who have purchased their first firearm over the past 12 months, driving what analysts are calling the greatest gun-buying spree in the country's history.

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So why spend close to a thousand dollars on a 12-gauge shotgun?

 

"It's just, you never know," he says. "The climate that we're in definitely makes me feel like I should protect myself. There might be a civil war, there might be anything."

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Behind the counter, James Janya, a 41-year-old former Marine, says he's noticed an "uptick in customers", though nothing like the scale of the early days of the pandemic, when lines frequently snaked around the block.

 

By his estimate, around 80 per cent of customers over the past year have been first-time gun buyers, and the number of women has also sharply increased. "Everybody is scared right now," he says. "Businesses are closing down. Crime is on the rise. People are saying: 'Defund the police.' Well, then who's going to protect me? That's why people are buying guns."

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Down in Austin, Texas, a first-time buyer who asks not to be identified says he's always found the idea of gun ownership abhorrent but as a Leftist in a deeply conservative state with the highest number of registered weapons in the US, he feels increasingly threatened.

 

"I feel like I didn't have much of a choice," he explains. "The people out there who really love guns are now openly talking about killing people like me."

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Go into my LGSs weekly, GATS looks like it was cleaned out by looters. Alot of high power weapons have moved into circulation since early last year.Cant find anything Id like to add to my collection. Checked Gun Broker, everything priced through the roof. Saw a video of executive director of Remington/Soeer etal. stating the fact that they are running flat out, quite flaming him and the company.

 

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No different from the right arming up when Obama won. The right rushes the gun stores under the dems and the dems rush the gun stores under the republicans. What's the big issue? More gun owners is a good thing right? And especially after 1/6/21. People feel they need to even the playing field.

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No different from the right arming up when Obama won. The right rushes the gun stores under the dems and the dems rush the gun stores under the republicans. What's the big issue? More gun owners is a good thing right? And especially after 1/6/21. People feel they need to even the playing field.

 

Whats the big issue?

The hypocritical left.... THEY want to take away the guns...

 

Just sayin...

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No different from the right arming up when Obama won. The right rushes the gun stores under the dems and the dems rush the gun stores under the republicans. What's the big issue? More gun owners is a good thing right? And especially after 1/6/21. People feel they need to even the playing field.

The right as you call it, ran to gun stores before Marxist Commy laws where put into place to limit the right. Dems ran to the stores, because they didn't want to get eaten by there own during Covid and BLM /Antifa protest. If you believe you need a gun because of 1/6/21, you must have been in a coma when BLM / Antifa was rioting.

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No different from the right arming up when Obama won. The right rushes the gun stores under the dems and the dems rush the gun stores under the republicans. What's the big issue? More gun owners is a good thing right? And especially after 1/6/21. People feel they need to even the playing field.

Sorry, but they are completely different, by leagues and miles. The 'right' arming up under Obama, was in fear of draconian gun laws, or worse Executive Orders, being made.

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No different from the right arming up when Obama won. The right rushes the gun stores under the dems and the dems rush the gun stores under the republicans. What's the big issue? More gun owners is a good thing right? And especially after 1/6/21. People feel they need to even the playing field.

The right as you call it, ran to gun stores before Marxist Commy laws where put into place to limit the right. Dems ran to the stores, because they didn't want to get eaten by there own during Covid and BLM /Antifa protest. If you believe you need a gun because of 1/6/21, you must have been in a coma when BLM / Antifa was rioting.

 

Or willfully ignorant

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"Down in Austin, Texas, a first-time buyer who asks not to be identified says he's always found the idea of gun ownership abhorrent but as a Leftist in a deeply conservative state with the highest number of registered weapons in the US, he feels increasingly threatened.

"I feel like I didn't have much of a choice," he explains. "The people out there who really love guns are now openly talking about killing people like me."
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Sorry but complete and utter, fabricated BS.

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No different from the right arming up when Obama won. The right rushes the gun stores under the dems and the dems rush the gun stores under the republicans. What's the big issue? More gun owners is a good thing right? And especially after 1/6/21. People feel they need to even the playing field.

The right as you call it, ran to gun stores before Marxist Commy laws where put into place to limit the right. Dems ran to the stores, because they didn't want to get eaten by there own during Covid and BLM /Antifa protest. If you believe you need a gun because of 1/6/21, you must have been in a coma when BLM / Antifa was rioting.

 

Or willfully ignorant

 

Whatever you want to call it to make yourselves feel better. The right didn't do it because of some principled stand, they did it because they were scared of the people on the other side. The left arms up for two reasons, inner city crime and the threat of far right domestic terrorism. Evening the playing field is a good thing. Keeps everyone in their place. You can throw around terms like "willfully ignorant" and Commy this commy that but many here fit the bill under the past president and instead of being a "commy", many were rooting for facism. You can't throw stones in glass houses and many here live in glass houses. The truth is the truth, don't run from it.

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No different from the right arming up when Obama won. The right rushes the gun stores under the dems and the dems rush the gun stores under the republicans. What's the big issue? More gun owners is a good thing right? And especially after 1/6/21. People feel they need to even the playing field.

The right as you call it, ran to gun stores before Marxist Commy laws where put into place to limit the right. Dems ran to the stores, because they didn't want to get eaten by there own during Covid and BLM /Antifa protest. If you believe you need a gun because of 1/6/21, you must have been in a coma when BLM / Antifa was rioting.

Or willfully ignorant

Whatever you want to call it to make yourselves feel better. The right didn't do it because of some principled stand, they did it because they were scared of the people on the other side. The left arms up for two reasons, inner city crime and the threat of far right domestic terrorism. Evening the playing field is a good thing. Keeps everyone in their place. You can throw around terms like "willfully ignorant" and Commy this commy that but many here fit the bill under the past president and instead of being a "commy", many were rooting for facism. You can't throw stones in glass houses and many here live in glass houses. The truth is the truth, don't run from it.

 

Scared of the people on the other side ? Seriously ? Unless you mean the gun grabbing democrats then that may make some sort of sense.

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Whatever you want to call it to make yourselves feel better. The right didn't do it because of some principled stand, they did it because they were scared of the people on the other side. The left arms up for two reasons, inner city crime and the threat of far right domestic terrorism. Evening the playing field is a good thing. Keeps everyone in their place. You can throw around terms like "willfully ignorant" and Commy this commy that but many here fit the bill under the past president and instead of being a "commy", many were rooting for facism. You can't throw stones in glass houses and many here live in glass houses. The truth is the truth, don't run from it.

 

Inner city crime?

Sure...I get that one...

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Heck...The left is the source of the problem... So..gun up!

 

Far right domestic terrorism?

So..a nation of of lefties are gunning up because of what? The DC thingy?

Were bunch of people were let into the capital and knocked over a few chairs?

Was infiltrated by pantifa? Made out by the media to be some kind of coup?

 

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If I had 3 braincells to rub together, I would suggest they simply believe there could be an internal conflict brewing.. You know..the one fueled by media and ...lefties..

 

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Whatever you want to call it to make yourselves feel better. The right didn't do it because of some principled stand, they did it because they were scared of the people on the other side. The left arms up for two reasons, inner city crime and the threat of far right domestic terrorism. Evening the playing field is a good thing. Keeps everyone in their place. You can throw around terms like "willfully ignorant" and Commy this commy that but many here fit the bill under the past president and instead of being a "commy", many were rooting for facism. You can't throw stones in glass houses and many here live in glass houses. The truth is the truth, don't run from it.

 

The willfully ignorant label I used referred to this statement "If you believe you need a gun because of 1/6/21, you must have been in a coma when BLM / Antifa was rioting.". And yes, imho they ignored what was going on during the BLM/Antifa Riots, and many WERE willfully ignorant, i.e. CHOSE to only listen to certain media dialogs, in order to fit their pre-conceived political notions, or stay in that same bubble. You comdemn people from 'throwing stones in glass houses', but doing that, while ignoring that, many of the same people claiming to be so scared about Jan 6th, still don't think there was anything but peaceful BLM and antifacist marches, and no rioting or deaths, IS throwing stones in glass houses.

 

AND, just because you want it to be, does NOT make pro gun folks buying in anticipation of heavy gun control laws AND, alleged reaction to 1/6 athe same thing. They simply aren't.

 

Not to mention, your statement "and the dems rush the gun stores under the republicans." has no historical basis in reality. PLEASE point to any time in the last 100 years, where democrats rushed gun stores when 'under republicans'. It simply has never happened, and DEFINATELY for fear of the Republicans.

 

And please don't try to say 2020. That was fears because of the pandemic, nothing more.

 

 

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So the left buys guns because they fear the what again? Right wingers, domestic terrorists like the ones that were guided thru the halls of congress?

But the left doesn't fear antifa, or BLM? The ones that rioted, looted, burned, assaulted, vandalized for the better part of 2020?

Huh....

All these groups you mentioned are terroristic in nature. If this offends you, you should probably ***** where you stand on the spectrum.

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Whatever you want to call it to make yourselves feel better. The right didn't do it because of some principled stand, they did it because they were scared of the people on the other side. The left arms up for two reasons, inner city crime and the threat of far right domestic terrorism. Evening the playing field is a good thing. Keeps everyone in their place. You can throw around terms like "willfully ignorant" and Commy this commy that but many here fit the bill under the past president and instead of being a "commy", many were rooting for facism. You can't throw stones in glass houses and many here live in glass houses. The truth is the truth, don't run from it.

 

The willfully ignorant label I used referred to this statement "If you believe you need a gun because of 1/6/21, you must have been in a coma when BLM / Antifa was rioting.". And yes, imho they ignored what was going on during the BLM/Antifa Riots, and many WERE willfully ignorant, i.e. CHOSE to only listen to certain media dialogs, in order to fit their pre-conceived political notions, or stay in that same bubble. You comdemn people from 'throwing stones in glass houses', but doing that, while ignoring that, many of the same people claiming to be so scared about Jan 6th, still don't think there was anything but peaceful BLM and antifacist marches, and no rioting or deaths, IS throwing stones in glass houses.

 

AND, just because you want it to be, does NOT make pro gun folks buying in anticipation of heavy gun control laws AND, alleged reaction to 1/6 athe same thing. They simply aren't.

 

Not to mention, your statement "and the dems rush the gun stores under the republicans." has no historical basis in reality. PLEASE point to any time in the last 100 years, where democrats rushed gun stores when 'under republicans'. It simply has never happened, and DEFINATELY for fear of the Republicans.

 

And please don't try to say 2020. That was fears because of the pandemic, nothing more.

 

 

 

This is really the first time liberals have been this into guns for protection. They were never afraid of the right. But the right was always afraid of the left. Regardless if it was fear of losing rights or fear of the people. It's about time the left arms up too. Because there is a clear threat from the right. Like I said before, if this offends you then you need to look inward.

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Any reason that lets more folks become gun owners and familiar with firearms ... except to do someone harm in a premeditated rage-like manner or some other evil purpose... is likely good for all of us who already are respectful gun owners.

 

It is up to us to steer them respectfully towards good 2A and firearm stewardship.

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Any reason that lets more folks become gun owners and familiar with firearms ... except to do someone harm in a premeditated rage-like manner or some other evil purpose... is likely good for all of us who already are respectful gun owners.

 

It is up to us to steer them respectfully towards good 2A and firearm stewardship.

That makes a lot of sense, way more than the posts I just removed.

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Any reason that lets more folks become gun owners and familiar with firearms ... except to do someone harm in a premeditated rage-like manner or some other evil purpose... is likely good for all of us who already are respectful gun owners.

 

It is up to us to steer them respectfully towards good 2A and firearm stewardship.

We went thru this on another topic. How the left buying guns and why most will not come to the 2A side. The members that know Dems or Lefties or Anti- gunners that bought guns, let us know how it works getting them to join NRA, ISRA, GOA , SAF. Have they called there politicians to stop trying to take our rights away? Start another topic and keep us posted with all the success stories.

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Any reason that lets more folks become gun owners and familiar with firearms ... except to do someone harm in a premeditated rage-like manner or some other evil purpose... is likely good for all of us who already are respectful gun owners.

 

It is up to us to steer them respectfully towards good 2A and firearm stewardship.

We went thru this on another topic. How the left buying guns and why most will not come to the 2A side. The members that know Dems or Lefties or Anti- gunners that bought guns, let us know how it works getting them to join NRA, ISRA, GOA , SAF. Have they called there politicians to stop trying to take our rights away? Start another topic and keep us posted with all the success stories.

 

While it's fine to have any opinion you like, not trying to engage new gun owners or, worse, actively trying to alienate them, isn't an option here.

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Any reason that lets more folks become gun owners and familiar with firearms ... except to do someone harm in a premeditated rage-like manner or some other evil purpose... is likely good for all of us who already are respectful gun owners.

 

It is up to us to steer them respectfully towards good 2A and firearm stewardship.

That makes a lot of sense, way more than the posts I just removed.

 

And yet you left up, the inflammatory, unsubstantiated post containing "Because there is a clear threat from the right". above?

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Any reason that lets more folks become gun owners and familiar with firearms ... except to do someone harm in a premeditated rage-like manner or some other evil purpose... is likely good for all of us who already are respectful gun owners.

 

It is up to us to steer them respectfully towards good 2A and firearm stewardship.

That makes a lot of sense, way more than the posts I just removed.

 

And yet you left up, the inflammatory, unsubstantiated post containing "Because there is a clear threat from the right". above?

 

 

Some folks think there is a clear threat from the right.

Some folks think there is a clear threat from the left.

Others just enjoy shooting and being prepared, proficient.

 

Who cares why?

It is up to us to steer them respectfully towards good 2A and firearm stewardship.

 

We are lucky (or not) that most of what we post here isn't deleted.

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