mauserme Posted October 29, 2017 at 12:52 AM Share Posted October 29, 2017 at 12:52 AM http://www.voiceofsandiego.org/topics/nonprofits/gun-control-advocates-kept-out-suicide-walk/ Suicide Prevention Walk Organizers Tell Gun Control Advocates to Keep Away By Ashly McGlone A suicide prevention walk in San Diego Saturday will feature pamphlets with gun safety tips co-created by a gun lobbying group, but gun-control advocates will not be allowed to distribute materials. Their organizations legislative stance related to guns is inconsistent with our efforts, said Jessica van der Stad, regional director of the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention. As a suicide prevention organization, we are not in the business of saying who can and cannot own firearms. We are in the business of saving lives. Van der Stad was referring to the local Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America group, which sought a booth at this weekends Out of the Darkness community walk. Another local gun control group was also told not to promote their cause if they attend, emails shared with Voice of San Diego show. On Thursday, Vicki Shepperd Chin with the San Diego Brady Campaign, gave the suicide prevention group a heads up about their plans. We are planning on wearing our standard t-shirts that say Brady Campaign and gun violence prevention saves lives, wrote Shepperd Chin in an email to the organizers of the march. One of the goals is to educate and put measures in place to prevent firearm suicides is this an appropriate place to spread that word by wearing our t-shirts? Che Hernandez, chair of the suicide prevention foundations San Diego chapter, replied: Upon consulting with our National leadership we still are unable to have the Brady Campaign / Moms Demand Action promote itself at our community events. ... She went on. AFSP has formed a partnership with National Sports Shooting Foundation, and has developed a new educational program and materials emphasizing Firearm Safety. Acknowledging that firearms are a primary means of suicide, this effort is a vital component of AFSPs goal to achieve 20% reduction in suicide by the year 2025, Hernandez wrote. ... Our goal is to provide resources and information to individuals that have been affected by suicide We just want to unite in a common mission to provide hope to those impacted by suicide. Wendy Wheatcroft, head of the San Diego Moms Demand Action chapter, thinks they still could have participated. We have educational gun safety programs that are non-political that we hoped to share. We were never going to be pushing politics, she wrote in an email. Though van der Stad and other foundation officials said the partnership has nothing to do with their response to the gun control groups, Amanda Wilcox with the Brady Campaign said she has seen a change in recent years, and, The change seems to have occurred after that partnership. Wilcox, legislation and policy chair for the California chapters of the Brady Campaign, said she used to share materials at the walks about safe storage of firearms, and taking guns away from children and those at risk of suicide. But a year and a half ago, she was denied a booth at an event in Auburn, Calif. She said another Brady Campaign group in Los Angeles was also denied a table at an event last year. ... The suicide prevention walk will take place Saturday, Oct. 28 at Liberty Station from 8 a.m. until noon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted October 29, 2017 at 01:48 AM Share Posted October 29, 2017 at 01:48 AM But. . But . . .But what about the Children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted October 29, 2017 at 01:50 AM Share Posted October 29, 2017 at 01:50 AM Suicide is an overt act, not an accident. Gun control has no intersection with the subject. The walk organizers have an intended message, and it is their sandbox, so they control who plays. Tough noogies mom's and bradys. (It's OUR dime). That's what happens when you TRY to hijack another organizations' expertise to cloak your true objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted October 29, 2017 at 03:36 PM Share Posted October 29, 2017 at 03:36 PM Many commit suicide because they were harassed and bullied. If the same people had a gun, the bullies and harassers would back off and life would be better for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk5 Posted October 29, 2017 at 03:42 PM Share Posted October 29, 2017 at 03:42 PM I can't believe the Moms and Brady campaign didn't get a liberal judge to let them in.Kinda have to agree BobPistol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregivq Posted October 30, 2017 at 01:27 PM Share Posted October 30, 2017 at 01:27 PM I'm getting lost in the agendas now. Abortion is fine, suicide is bad, gun are very bad, violence is good as long as its against conservatives, coexist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted October 30, 2017 at 01:51 PM Share Posted October 30, 2017 at 01:51 PM Not sure, why these folks (Bradys and Moms. and other antis) just don't understand the concepts of tools, will and intent. A person bent on evil, on killing people, will use whatever tool they can, be it a truck (that killed and injured more people in one incident, than ANY mass shooting in the US), an IED, a plane whatever. There is no way to stop them from killing, by removing the tools they use. Because they will find SOMETHING to implement their will and intent to do harm. Those bent on suicide are no different. If a gun isn't available, they WILL find another tool to use. It is their intent, and will to end their lives. In both cases, unless your aim is only to send up useless, virtue signals, then go after the underlining actual causes that make people do evil, or want to end their own lives. Actually, yea I do know why the Anti's do what they do. It is because most of them really don't care about most of what they purport themselves to care about. They just want citizens to be unarmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted October 30, 2017 at 01:54 PM Share Posted October 30, 2017 at 01:54 PM I'm getting lost in the agendas now. Abortion is fine, suicide is bad, gun are very bad, violence is good as long as its against conservatives, coexist?They haven't quite admitted violence is okay against conservatives (meaning anyone right of socialism, to them). Yet, They have only said it's okay against Nazis, and then they call anyone right of a socialist/Marxist as a Nazi. But, not 'conservatives'. But, it's all about stopping 'hate', via hateful violence. Hypocrisy, is there name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted October 30, 2017 at 01:57 PM Share Posted October 30, 2017 at 01:57 PM Many commit suicide because they were harassed and bullied. If the same people had a gun, the bullies and harassers would back off and life would be better for them.Depends on the Age group. Men, males constitute a LARGE majority of all suicide deaths. This includes quite a few in their 20s, 30s, 40s etc. Many factors there, such as little or no infrastructure for help (treatment centers, shelters, etc.), a severely unbalanced family court system against men, men constituting a lion share of all homeless people, and many others. Quite a few of those are interlinked too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted October 30, 2017 at 02:00 PM Share Posted October 30, 2017 at 02:00 PM I'm getting lost in the agendas now. Abortion is fine, suicide is bad, gun are very bad, violence is good as long as its against conservatives, coexist?Sounds like you've got it figured out. That's the climate of today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Destro Posted October 30, 2017 at 06:38 PM Share Posted October 30, 2017 at 06:38 PM Gun control does nothing to prevent/reduce suicide. Ex: Japan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted October 31, 2017 at 02:31 AM Share Posted October 31, 2017 at 02:31 AM Last time I checked, it was still perfectly legal to buy rope. Or a car...or plane. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearsmithy Posted October 31, 2017 at 05:07 PM Share Posted October 31, 2017 at 05:07 PM I'm getting lost in the agendas now. Abortion is fine, suicide is bad, gun are very bad, violence is good as long as its against conservatives, coexist? I don't know what your malfunction is greg, if you can't understand this then clearly you lack common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted October 31, 2017 at 06:11 PM Share Posted October 31, 2017 at 06:11 PM Drugs are bad, m'kay. Unless its a state issue then marijuana is m'kay. And immigrants are not m'kay, unless its a sanctuary thing, m'kay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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