markthesignguy Posted June 12, 2018 at 10:48 AM Share Posted June 12, 2018 at 10:48 AM Well the link proves one thing irrefutably - she has been reading THIS thread. There are some gun people who intend to cause chaos & attempt to ruin our event.This is at a private residence so they are not allowed on private property.Parking isn’t allowed on either side of the street so they can’t park their vehicles here. There isn’t any public sidewalks for them to stand on. If they try to hang out front that is stalking.<snip> be mindful of the neighborhood. Be respectful. We don’t more than a dozen cars here at one time.Do not block up the street. If we have our dozen cars then take a ride around Lisle & come back in 15 minutes or so.Soundguy's RIGHT, Adding to the comment by TRJ:Leave them be. Imagine if they showed up to your house, or Freedom Day (or the gun show as they apparently do) and tried to rain on your parade. Left alone they will wither and die. I say this with the same conviction I had 24 years ago when I was saying "We Will Get Concealed Carry in Illinois" and very few believed.Leave them be.She's trying to drum up media coverage... By implying controversy and disruption - THAT would be the story:"big baaaad gun guys picking on the poor victim kids" So whatever happens - she will TRY to blame it on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlin Posted June 12, 2018 at 11:07 AM Share Posted June 12, 2018 at 11:07 AM I really believe this is going to be a big non-event.It's being held,for 3 hrs.,in someone's driveway at their house.Auvergne Ave.and Elm St. are dead end streets.One way in ,one way out.On a good day getting back onto Ogden Ave.is a pain.Try it midday on a weekend.I think it's getting way more attention than it deserves.It might get some coverage,but won't accomplish much of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted June 12, 2018 at 12:09 PM Share Posted June 12, 2018 at 12:09 PM . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted June 12, 2018 at 01:18 PM Share Posted June 12, 2018 at 01:18 PM Reactionary "email everyone" based upon some "story" in the Naperville Sun (who is that?). Might as well be from "The Patch". Take some of my regretful yearly membership money, stop sending me and everyone else junk mail, and use it to hire someone with brains to vet these stories. Do some research. Tone down your rhetoric. It's frankly embarrassing to read at times. I cringe. You do send out a literal newspaper every quarter, don't you? This is the best we've got? How much more can I pay to get some competent people on the payroll? Tell me...but please not via another expensive colored paper letter in my mailbox. Whomever has access to that email list should have it revoked. Immediately. </rant>I think ISRA severely overreacted, but the Naperville Sun is the Tribune’s local outlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted June 12, 2018 at 02:07 PM Share Posted June 12, 2018 at 02:07 PM While I really think it a bad idea to interfere with their fund raiser, Depends on your definition of 'interfere'. I have no trouble sic'ing the law on them, if warranted. They have NO reservations at attacking funding for anything on our side, zero, nada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted June 12, 2018 at 02:19 PM Share Posted June 12, 2018 at 02:19 PM While I really think it a bad idea to interfere with their fund raiser, Depends on your definition of 'interfere'. I have no trouble sic'ing the law on them, if warranted. They have NO reservations at attacking funding for anything on our side, zero, nada. I'm all about law and order, if somebody is doing something illegal then law enforcement should step in and take appropriate action. Interfere was intended to mean physically obstruct with a broken down car on the tiny road leading to the residence, or similar. Anything that gets in their way that they can attribute to us, whether we did it or it was an act of God, we WILL get blamed for in the press. Seriously, if it rains that day we're getting blamed for salting the clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpdesk9 Posted June 12, 2018 at 02:57 PM Share Posted June 12, 2018 at 02:57 PM Show up there with anything 2A related and she calls the cops for trespassing. Not to mention she'll claim she saw your gun. So don't bring a gun, when the cops show up, submit to a search, and she has now misused 911 and attempted to file a false police report.Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpdesk9 Posted June 12, 2018 at 02:58 PM Share Posted June 12, 2018 at 02:58 PM I DO think local Law Enforcement should be called about the traffic and illegal vending on the property, when it happens this Saturday.Yep Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted June 12, 2018 at 04:43 PM Share Posted June 12, 2018 at 04:43 PM While I really think it a bad idea to interfere with their fund raiser, Depends on your definition of 'interfere'. I have no trouble sic'ing the law on them, if warranted. They have NO reservations at attacking funding for anything on our side, zero, nada. I'm all about law and order, if somebody is doing something illegal then law enforcement should step in and take appropriate action. Interfere was intended to mean physically obstruct with a broken down car on the tiny road leading to the residence, or similar. Anything that gets in their way that they can attribute to us, whether we did it or it was an act of God, we WILL get blamed for in the press. Seriously, if it rains that day we're getting blamed for salting the clouds. TO that I agree. Looking above, she seems to be expecting it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted June 12, 2018 at 05:12 PM Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 at 05:12 PM On the ISRA home page and also in my inbox this morning: Recently the Illinois State Rifle Association released an alert regarding Bill Kay Chevrolet based on a local newspapers article. The Illinois State Rifle Association did not independently verify our interpretation of the article before sending this alert out. By not doing so, we were incorrect and deeply regret our inaction which has caused considerable harm to Mr. Kay, his staff and his fine business reputation. I further apologize to Mr. Kay and his staff and you our members, and gun owners for this Terrible error. In closing, we appreciate Mr. Kay and his efforts to clarify this error that we have caused. I also will meet personally with Mr.Kay and offer my apologies. Richard A. Pearson Executive Director Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDW Posted June 12, 2018 at 08:28 PM Share Posted June 12, 2018 at 08:28 PM I agree with Soundguy and Mark the sign guy, stay away. We have nothing to gain by hanging around a tiny bunch of anti 2A people trying to make a name for themselves. I checked out the leader of this things Twitter, under 20 followers. Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted June 12, 2018 at 10:09 PM Share Posted June 12, 2018 at 10:09 PM · Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:36 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:36 PM - No reason given 26 people signed up to go as of now. Nothing burger designed to take plebs money to line Bloombergs pockets more. Let them be. If the News covers it, spam their social media with images of Emma Gonzalez in her commie outfit and videos of swearing up a storm or forgetting his lines http://i.imgur.com/x9njYgF.jpg Link to comment
G214me Posted June 13, 2018 at 02:36 AM Share Posted June 13, 2018 at 02:36 AM 100% agree on not interfering with this flop car wash. mainly because this is beneath us, we have IGOLD and need an arena and multiple parking garages and take over the state capital while the dim wit that's putting on this joke of a fundraiser can't even get a business to donate a running garden house. I'm thinking the organizer is an adult trying to get Soros / Bloomberg money and is using hapless teens that aren't bright enough to know they're advocating keeping themselves sitting ducks. The leftist wacko that's hosting is responsible for enabling mass murder by misleading teens into helping push the agenda rather than solving the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted June 16, 2018 at 03:40 PM Share Posted June 16, 2018 at 03:40 PM The car wash has been moved according to the Naperville Sunhttp://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/naperville-sun/news/ct-nvs-parkland-car-wash-st-0617-story.html In between, they planned to work side-by-side with Downers Grove students washing cars, with all proceeds going to March For Our Lives. The fundraiser — running from noon to 3 p.m. — was relocated First Methodist Church in Downers Grove.So the area to avoid is around Maple and Main in Downers Grove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted June 16, 2018 at 03:47 PM Share Posted June 16, 2018 at 03:47 PM 100% agree on not interfering with this flop car wash. mainly because this is beneath us, we have IGOLD and need an arena and multiple parking garages and take over the state capital while the dim wit that's putting on this joke of a fundraiser can't even get a business to donate a running garden house. I'm thinking the organizer is an adult trying to get Soros / Bloomberg money and is using hapless teens that aren't bright enough to know they're advocating keeping themselves sitting ducks. The leftist wacko that's hosting is responsible for enabling mass murder by misleading teens into helping push the agenda rather than solving the problem.Re, Money:If You would like to donate towards the donation the kids are making to Parkland, the church that’s hosting our car wash or just to Friends Who March to help w our expenses on these events & future ones, you can do so at the link below. Just make sure you let us know where you want the money to go.So the money goes to the DG kids for them to send it to the Parkland whatever fund,, or to support Jax's bunch or to the First Methodist church... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted June 16, 2018 at 04:19 PM Share Posted June 16, 2018 at 04:19 PM Jax is feeling the heat, and shooting her vile mouth off too!!: Attacking Bill Kay!!!! Gun nuts are idiots. Bill Kay is an idiot. Do not blame the paper. The blame falls 100% on ISRA. I told the Paper the car wash is BEHIND Bill Kay Chevrolet. That does not say it’s AT the dealership. These terrorist organizations that think their 2A cancels out our 1A is a bunch off bull****. Kids having a car wash is something to attack? Why?The gun nuts have threatened me w police, IRS & even the EPA. They are stalking me. Slandering me. Bullying me. For hosting a car wash For kids. What the hey!!! is wrong w our country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted June 16, 2018 at 04:50 PM Share Posted June 16, 2018 at 04:50 PM Jax is feeling the heat, and shooting her vile mouth off too!!: Attacking Bill Kay!!!! Gun nuts are idiots. Bill Kay is an idiot. Do not blame the paper. The blame falls 100% on ISRA. I told the Paper the car wash is BEHIND Bill Kay Chevrolet. That does not say it’s AT the dealership. These terrorist organizations that think their 2A cancels out our 1A is a bunch off bull****. Kids having a car wash is something to attack? Why?The gun nuts have threatened me w police, IRS & even the EPA. They are stalking me. Slandering me. Bullying me. For hosting a car wash For kids. What the hey!!! is wrong w our country? Replying to the last line of the quote .... People like you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted June 16, 2018 at 04:59 PM Share Posted June 16, 2018 at 04:59 PM · Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:33 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:33 PM - No reason given Always the victim.......... Link to comment
TRJ Posted June 16, 2018 at 06:29 PM Share Posted June 16, 2018 at 06:29 PM Jax is feeling the heat, and shooting her vile mouth off too!!: Attacking Bill Kay!!!! Gun nuts are idiots. Bill Kay is an idiot. Do not blame the paper. The blame falls 100% on ISRA. I told the Paper the car wash is BEHIND Bill Kay Chevrolet. That does not say it’s AT the dealership. These terrorist organizations that think their 2A cancels out our 1A is a bunch off bull****. Kids having a car wash is something to attack? Why?The gun nuts have threatened me w police, IRS & even the EPA. They are stalking me. Slandering me. Bullying me. For hosting a car wash For kids. What the hey!!! is wrong w our country? Speaking for myself, she's clearly reading our jest on this forum and is far too deep in her own paranoid little world to know that "terrorism" isn't something you paint across the faces of the neighbors you disagree with.It's humorous that nobody here, to my knowledge, has even approached her or directly addressed or responded to her postings on social media yet she thinks she is being "stalked." That's over dramatic and creepy and makes me feel bad for her. It must be scary to see the world through her eyes and live with that kind of fear. If someone did, shame on you. Live and let live. Since we can see the opposition reads here, know this. I've met several of the people who post here. They are all friendly happy people. Normal. They're your neighbors and my neighbors. They aren't violent and we get background checked daily to prove it. We are as a group sick of being treated poorly by the media and the far left for wanting nothing more than the ability to take care of our families without unnecessary infringement or inconvenience. Yet every time some kook goes and commits an attrocity the left leaning groups gang up and try to take more rights away from us.So I hope they can understand us for collectively wishing for their fund raising activities and rallies to fall flat. What we write here is nothing more than the equivalent of a motorist hoping the guy who cut him off in traffic gets a speeding ticket and a flat tire. We don't cause either one to happen, but we'll applaud if we catch up later and see flashing lights behind that car. It's not a threat nor tangible nor dangerous. It's a hopeful sigh of exhaustion wishing we could just be left alone instead of fighting to keep the option to use the tools of our choice that we need to guarantee our families have a fighting chance if actual threats bring danger to our doorstep. Waiting for police to react doesn't work. Ask the Parkland kids how that worked out.And if any person actually wants to learn about this little movement of ours from the people inside it, reach out. We don't bite. Maybe if there was a better understanding of us they could sleep better at night knowing that we aren't the terrorists they slander us to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted June 16, 2018 at 07:49 PM Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 at 07:49 PM ... These terrorist organizations that think their 2A cancels out our 1A ... Actually the basic idea is that the 2A is equally important as the 1A. However, the broader point to address is the label "terrorist." Both sides of the political spectrum like to label "terrorist" as anyone who disagrees with them or (only slightly better) commits a criminal act for which they want heightened legal penalties. Although it's not a rigorous test, ask yourself if Bashar al-Assad can use a definition to label Syrian freedom fighter as terrorists. If the answer is "yes," then the definition is probably too inclusive. For example, NATO defines terrorism as "The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence against individuals or property in an attempt to coerce or intimidate governments or societies to achieve political, religious or ideological objectives." Assad should love that definition. BTW, listening to some of the Parkland kids ("just kill all the gun-owners" in particular) makes me think March for Our Lives meets that definition, too. As non-specific as the definition is, boycotting Bill Kay and checking permits on a car wash still don't meet it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted June 16, 2018 at 09:33 PM Share Posted June 16, 2018 at 09:33 PM Her world view is rather twisted (cognitive dissonance wise ) - I was reading some of her posts which included anecdotes about the larger Gun Show protest, and I WITNESSED from start to finish something she writes about, and I do believe that the video and audio from her body camera would tell an entirely different tale than the one on her online post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warped Posted June 17, 2018 at 12:51 AM Share Posted June 17, 2018 at 12:51 AM Dont know for sure if this is the same person but it appears so She is quite how should I say it "unique" http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/glen-ellyn/ct-lombard-commonwealth-investigation-20141121-story.html https://buglenewspapers.com/area-haunt-brings-halloween-tradition-to-westmont https://www.westmont.illinois.gov/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Item/4003?fileID=3879 Also puts on a scary "Christmas house" which seems just a little wrong on a lot of levels to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted June 17, 2018 at 01:10 AM Share Posted June 17, 2018 at 01:10 AM · Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:33 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:33 PM - No reason given Dont know for sure if this is the same person but it appears so She is quite how should I say it "unique" http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/glen-ellyn/ct-lombard-commonwealth-investigation-20141121-story.html https://buglenewspapers.com/area-haunt-brings-halloween-tradition-to-westmont https://www.westmont.illinois.gov/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Item/4003?fileID=3879 Also puts on a scary "Christmas house" which seems just a little wrong on a lot of levels to me It’s her http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20141016/news/141018793/ Link to comment
steveTA84 Posted June 17, 2018 at 01:16 AM Share Posted June 17, 2018 at 01:16 AM · Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:33 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:33 PM - No reason given Found her twitter http://i.imgur.com/ulvYceq.jpg Link to comment
steveTA84 Posted June 17, 2018 at 01:23 AM Share Posted June 17, 2018 at 01:23 AM · Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:33 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:33 PM - No reason given She is among us..... http://i.imgur.com/xR7v5GT.jpg Ill dig around and find her email and notify the ISRA (looks like she gets alerts) Here that boys and girls, were terrorists!!!! Link to comment
markthesignguy Posted June 17, 2018 at 01:28 AM Share Posted June 17, 2018 at 01:28 AM Reading those articles, her future seems aimed for jail ( that Jaycees thing involves $100,000 ) or working herself up to an involuntary trip to a mental institution. She seems to be progressively loosing it, growing more unhinged as her causes meet resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted June 17, 2018 at 01:30 AM Share Posted June 17, 2018 at 01:30 AM · Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:33 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:33 PM - No reason given Some of her political followers http://i.imgur.com/8dt17xq.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/OUcoZ9f.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/lZLdORn.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/dEy0IyY.jpg And we know who they are now (remember this protest?) http://i.imgur.com/BlXSjQb.jpg Link to comment
steveTA84 Posted June 17, 2018 at 01:36 AM Share Posted June 17, 2018 at 01:36 AM · Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:33 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:33 PM - No reason given Yay! Can see their planned protests. Thanks Jackie!! http://i.imgur.com/bDYnxnc.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Q4nWRxc.jpg http://www.friendswhomarch.org Link to comment
RECarry Posted June 17, 2018 at 01:40 AM Share Posted June 17, 2018 at 01:40 AM Ms. Jumping-to-Conclusions Jax asks "what is wrong w our country?" Let's help answer that question, shall we. 1. God was removed from the schools in the 1960's, the Pledge of Allegiance is on shaky ground, and "In God We Trust" gives some leftists convulsions. Has the "me first" generation improved the fabric of society, or undermined it? 2. Kids are being fed medications with side effects that include suicidal tendencies and violent behavior (a fact that is suppressed after mass shooting events). It appears the Big Parma lobby has tons more muscle than the big bad NRA. 3. Leftists, progressives, and communists have infested public schools. Again, what is the outcome? 4. A lying, corrupt, hypocritical candidate for President was/is a disciple of Saul Alinsky's toxic "Rules for Radicals". 5. Big government, including administrative agencies, purchased billions of rounds of ammunition, including hollow points. Why? 6. Anyone who disagrees with a leftist/progressive/protected class is immediately labeled a "racist", "-phobe", or "man-with-a-gun". Innocent people have been killed during prank (or malicious) SWAT-ing raids. Those terrorist acts are on the leftist whackos. 7. Only "progressives" are allowed to call their opponents vile, disgusting names and display their severed heads "as a joke", while conservative opinions are silenced in the media and by social media platforms. 7. NRA members dislike seeing a nation with huge potential corrupted and divided by power-crazed people who lack understanding of history, the Constitution, the Federalist papers, the classical definitions of "liberal" and "fascist", and so on. Our defense of the 2A has nothing whatsoever to do with school shootings and everything to do with the demise of education. If anything, we are fully behind adding effective security (and CCW) to "Gun Free Zones" - effective solutions the left will fight rather than try to understand. The body count is on them. So eavesdroppers, would you like to re-think which side is prone to violence and fascist / terroristic behavior, and callous disregard for students' lives? It's not us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted June 17, 2018 at 01:46 AM Share Posted June 17, 2018 at 01:46 AM · Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:33 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., December 12, 2018 at 04:33 PM - No reason given Looks like Jackie IS IN FACT friends who march http://i.imgur.com/4Ynj3eA.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Dr8t5SV.jpg Ill be keeping tabs on you online, Jackie. That is not in any way a threat of any kind. You have the right to protest, the right to have your opinion, and the right to fight for what you believe. But calling us terrorists is low. Should you step out of line, Ill make sure it spreads...... Link to comment
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