chicagoresident Posted June 12, 2020 at 06:03 PM Share Posted June 12, 2020 at 06:03 PM https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2020/06/11/teacher-spying-on-student-during-virtual-class-sends-cops-to-search-11-year-olds-home-after-spotting-a-bb-gun-n518679 Teacher Spying on Student During Virtual Class Sends Cops to Search 11-Year-Old's Home After Spotting a BB Gun Just a reminder what happens when you invite the state into your house, another dystopian hazard of COVID related remote home schooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windermere Posted June 12, 2020 at 06:11 PM Share Posted June 12, 2020 at 06:11 PM sorry no warrant, no entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted June 12, 2020 at 06:24 PM Share Posted June 12, 2020 at 06:24 PM sorry no warrant, no entry.I think teachers were included in the reporting part of the red flag bills that have been going around. Red flags seems to get no knock warrants without any trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windermere Posted June 12, 2020 at 07:13 PM Share Posted June 12, 2020 at 07:13 PM sorry no warrant, no entry.I think teachers were included in the reporting part of the red flag bills that have been going around. Red flags seems to get no knock warrants without any trouble. Yes in Maryland, teachers are included in people that can file for ERPO. So it sounds like in this case that the police did not have any order or warrant, given that she had every right to not let them in the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45Badger Posted June 12, 2020 at 07:33 PM Share Posted June 12, 2020 at 07:33 PM Thankful that we didn’t have smart phones, computers and TVs with built in cameras when my kids were in school. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted June 12, 2020 at 10:20 PM Share Posted June 12, 2020 at 10:20 PM “The officers that responded were appalled at the call and even commended the set-up that my son has for his toys and commended him also on his respect and understanding of the BB guns,” Sperry wrote on Facebook.Sperry asked the principal why the issue couldn’t have been handled privately by phone rather than sending the police. “He said that was not their policy,” she said." A private phone call isn't school policy. Sadly, being without common sense apparently is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaultdotxbe Posted June 12, 2020 at 10:41 PM Share Posted June 12, 2020 at 10:41 PM A private phone call isn't school policy. Sadly, being without common sense apparently is.This is an evolution from the mandatory reporting of child abuse for school officials. Since talking to parents first can't be a first resort for abuse, it ends up not being a first resort for anything. The unions generally like to keep things simple, with a single point of contact for everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted June 12, 2020 at 11:08 PM Share Posted June 12, 2020 at 11:08 PM A private phone call isn't school policy. Sadly, being without common sense apparently is.This is an evolution from the mandatory reporting of child abuse for school officials. Since talking to parents first can't be a first resort for abuse, it ends up not being a first resort for anything. The unions generally like to keep things simple, with a single point of contact for everything I understand it when there's legitimate suspicion of child abuse. This is light years away from that. Not arguing with you. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted June 12, 2020 at 11:27 PM Share Posted June 12, 2020 at 11:27 PM With the current events raking lace and the desire of the no knock warrants heading southWould it be just a matter of no opening he door?The out cry for the abolishment of no knocks is growing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgranta Posted June 12, 2020 at 11:55 PM Share Posted June 12, 2020 at 11:55 PM If this school makes a policy of routinely Swatting students like this they may be declared a public nuisance. It would be fitting if a teacher was arrested for swatting a student like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted June 12, 2020 at 11:59 PM Share Posted June 12, 2020 at 11:59 PM Sue the teacher, the principal, the school board etc etc etc. Make them pay and pay dearly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted June 13, 2020 at 12:04 AM Share Posted June 13, 2020 at 12:04 AM If it's a public school, they probably have qualified immunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgranta Posted June 13, 2020 at 12:08 AM Share Posted June 13, 2020 at 12:08 AM If it's a public school, they probably have qualified immunity.Since it is a public school with government funded employees a 1983 civil rights lawsuit would conceivable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted June 13, 2020 at 12:54 AM Share Posted June 13, 2020 at 12:54 AM If it's a public school, they probably have qualified immunity. Since it is a public school with government funded employees a 1983 civil rights lawsuit would conceivable. A 1983 suit requires that someone actually be deprived of rights. In this case, no legal actions were taken. The mother consented to the search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgranta Posted June 13, 2020 at 01:08 AM Share Posted June 13, 2020 at 01:08 AM If it's a public school, they probably have qualified immunity.Since it is a public school with government funded employees a 1983 civil rights lawsuit would conceivable. A 1983 suit requires that someone actually be deprived of rights. In this case, no legal actions were taken. The mother consented to the search. It was the school staff that violated the 4th and 5th amendment rights by spying in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted June 13, 2020 at 03:17 AM Share Posted June 13, 2020 at 03:17 AM Did not spy. Homeowner logged in to video chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerus Posted June 13, 2020 at 03:27 AM Share Posted June 13, 2020 at 03:27 AM Did not spy. Homeowner logged in to video chat.For the purpose of virtual learning not for a nosey teacher to take screenshots of the kids bedroom and then claim the schools policy of no guns brought to school extended to virtual learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanook Posted June 13, 2020 at 01:20 PM Share Posted June 13, 2020 at 01:20 PM Sue the teacher, the principal, the school board etc etc etc. Make them pay and pay dearly! And if you win, demand the idiots get fired rather than settle for money. They need to pay the price. If they do it again, fire them again. Wreck their resume, so they don't go on to someplace else and do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted June 14, 2020 at 03:31 AM Share Posted June 14, 2020 at 03:31 AM Sue the teacher, the principal, the school board etc etc etc. Make them pay and pay dearly! And if you win, demand the idiots get fired rather than settle for money. They need to pay the price. If they do it again, fire them again. Wreck their resume, so they don't go on to someplace else and do it again.Good idea ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vito Posted June 26, 2020 at 02:00 PM Share Posted June 26, 2020 at 02:00 PM This is all related to the utter stupidity of so-called "zero tolerance" rules. Teachers and others in schools do not want to have to make judgments which might later prove to be mistaken and for which they might be justly blamed or accused of not using what little brains they possess. So anything that remotely seems to fall under "zero tolerance" gives the teacher the cover for reporting it to the police or other authorities as appropriate without fear of being recognized as an idiot devoid of common sense and mature adult thinking. This is how a child is suspended from school for biting into a Pop Tart that results in what the teachers thinks is the shape of a gun. This is how a school is placed on lock down, and the SWAT teams called in when a 22lr shell casing is found on the sidewalk outside an elementary school in NYC some years ago. When this type of thinking is not only encouraged, but demanded, a teacher seeing a gun, even if only a BB gun or a toy gun, will feel that they have no choice but to react as if the kid is holding a loaded Thompson submachine gun while seated in the classroom. And in today's insane politically correct climate, the teacher making such a stupid decision will be praised for their diligence, not condemned for their idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted June 26, 2020 at 02:36 PM Author Share Posted June 26, 2020 at 02:36 PM · Hidden by mauserme, June 26, 2020 at 11:11 PM - No reason given Hidden by mauserme, June 26, 2020 at 11:11 PM - No reason given Did not spy. Homeowner logged in to video chat.The level of cope bootlickers are on to pretend were not spiraling out of control to a dystopian hellhole. What happens lockdown 2.0 when attendance via video chat will be part of state mandated public home school attendance? Link to comment
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