Brandonr91 Posted February 21, 2019 at 04:27 PM Share Posted February 21, 2019 at 04:27 PM Greetings Everyone, I have been following these forums ever since my FOID card was revoked three years ago. I have been looking around for consensus on things like "time fo response" and in my case, it seems I have been slumped into the longer end of this process. Honestly, I would have retained a layer by now if I had the financial means to retain a lawyer per this issue. Originally this all started with a case where Paws tried to sue me for an animal that was sick. Long story short I was SOL on all charges except "negligence of animal owners duties" which was further nuanced by the judge. The charges that got my foid revoked were the "Less than 1 gram" marijuana which police found after inviting themselves into my apartment. Though, this was my mistake. I thought it was the mail main and I buzzed him in, opened my front door while I got my shoes on and by the time I had stepped out of my front door police were coming up the stairs and the door behind me was wide open. Suffice to say I was caught off guard, they claimed they saw something suspicious in my apartment (looking over my shoulder) and used that as a reason to push in, passed me. They found one gram of medical marijuana. They then used this as a concern for officer safety where they then rooted through my house and found my handguns in my bedroom - not out in the open. They confiscated those that day. Luckily I beat 95% of the charges, especially the ones I had my license revoked for (though, I was a legal card holder..., their attitude on this seems to have changed for the better). I appealed with the help of my lawyer who I was able to retain at the time. I got my witness testimonies signed, dated, and everything notarized - All my I's dotted and Ts crossed as per the law ISPs requirements. Fast-forward 3 years, almost going on four now.. and all I've heard for the last 2 years is "It's under review". I could really use help here... I know Reps in this community have reached out to the state (which seems to help). Can someone offer me some advice or put me in the right direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penumbra1811 Posted February 21, 2019 at 06:03 PM Share Posted February 21, 2019 at 06:03 PM Message Molly she is awesome she will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandonr91 Posted February 22, 2019 at 02:15 AM Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 02:15 AM Hey, I did just send her a message as per your suggestion. Though, I am still open to anyone's suggestions. Anyways thanks for yours 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted February 25, 2019 at 06:45 PM Share Posted February 25, 2019 at 06:45 PM Just curious, did you get your guns back or are they still "confiscated" since they haven't given you your FOID yet.Also, did you take any further legal action regarding the unlawful entry to your apartment by police? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandonr91 Posted February 25, 2019 at 10:57 PM Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 at 10:57 PM I did happen to get all my guns back. I had to have a family member sign for them. Also, it was going to be hard to prove the entered unlawfully without spending a lot more on a lawyer than I did. I was 24 at the time and didn't have the money to take further legal action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted March 4, 2019 at 05:45 PM Share Posted March 4, 2019 at 05:45 PM This is one of the main reasons I have a gun safe. Not necessarily just for theft protection, but for confiscation protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandonr91 Posted April 13, 2019 at 07:14 AM Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 at 07:14 AM Update. Molly has submitted an inquiry on my behalf. Still no end in sight, yet. Also, If and when I get my license back or move to a more free state I will get a date for sure. However I feel like that is a a barrier to home defense because a safe means having to open a secured lock under duress / stress. Perhaps I'll keep most guns in a safe and one cheapie out for defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfcreek Posted April 13, 2019 at 08:53 AM Share Posted April 13, 2019 at 08:53 AM Funny thing.I woke up at 3am asking myself this very question.I was wondering "Who" , if anyone has had their appeal,approved ? For whatever reason.Or have things ground to a complete halt.When I made my appeal and my address had changed.I noticed that after I sent my paperwork in for my appeal.My address info had changed on the isp site after three days.End of story.After that.Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted April 16, 2019 at 12:12 AM Share Posted April 16, 2019 at 12:12 AM Greetings Everyone, I have been following these forums ever since my FOID card was revoked three years ago. I have been looking around for consensus on things like "time fo response" and in my case, it seems I have been slumped into the longer end of this process. Honestly, I would have retained a layer by now if I had the financial means to retain a lawyer per this issue. Originally this all started with a case where Paws tried to sue me for an animal that was sick. Long story short I was SOL on all charges except "negligence of animal owners duties" which was further nuanced by the judge. The charges that got my foid revoked were the "Less than 1 gram" marijuana which police found after inviting themselves into my apartment. Though, this was my mistake. I thought it was the mail main and I buzzed him in, opened my front door while I got my shoes on and by the time I had stepped out of my front door police were coming up the stairs and the door behind me was wide open. Suffice to say I was caught off guard, they claimed they saw something suspicious in my apartment (looking over my shoulder) and used that as a reason to push in, passed me. They found one gram of medical marijuana. They then used this as a concern for officer safety where they then rooted through my house and found my handguns in my bedroom - not out in the open. They confiscated those that day. Luckily I beat 95% of the charges, especially the ones I had my license revoked for (though, I was a legal card holder..., their attitude on this seems to have changed for the better). I appealed with the help of my lawyer who I was able to retain at the time. I got my witness testimonies signed, dated, and everything notarized - All my I's dotted and Ts crossed as per the law ISPs requirements. Fast-forward 3 years, almost going on four now.. and all I've heard for the last 2 years is "It's under review". I could really use help here... I know Reps in this community have reached out to the state (which seems to help). Can someone offer me some advice or put me in the right direction? Why did police show up at your place and which police department? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandonr91 Posted April 16, 2019 at 03:41 PM Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 at 03:41 PM Greetings Everyone, I have been following these forums ever since my FOID card was revoked three years ago. I have been looking around for consensus on things like "time fo response" and in my case, it seems I have been slumped into the longer end of this process. Honestly, I would have retained a layer by now if I had the financial means to retain a lawyer per this issue. Originally this all started with a case where Paws tried to sue me for an animal that was sick. Long story short I was SOL on all charges except "negligence of animal owners duties" which was further nuanced by the judge. The charges that got my foid revoked were the "Less than 1 gram" marijuana which police found after inviting themselves into my apartment. Though, this was my mistake. I thought it was the mail main and I buzzed him in, opened my front door while I got my shoes on and by the time I had stepped out of my front door police were coming up the stairs and the door behind me was wide open. Suffice to say I was caught off guard, they claimed they saw something suspicious in my apartment (looking over my shoulder) and used that as a reason to push in, passed me. They found one gram of medical marijuana. They then used this as a concern for officer safety where they then rooted through my house and found my handguns in my bedroom - not out in the open. They confiscated those that day. Luckily I beat 95% of the charges, especially the ones I had my license revoked for (though, I was a legal card holder..., their attitude on this seems to have changed for the better). I appealed with the help of my lawyer who I was able to retain at the time. I got my witness testimonies signed, dated, and everything notarized - All my I's dotted and Ts crossed as per the law ISPs requirements. Fast-forward 3 years, almost going on four now.. and all I've heard for the last 2 years is "It's under review". I could really use help here... I know Reps in this community have reached out to the state (which seems to help). Can someone offer me some advice or put me in the right direction?Why did police show up at lyour place and which police department?Why did they show up? The case was supposedly over what they claimed was anima abuse. I adopted a cat from paws. Cat didn't seem to be doing well even after taking her to a vet in the first two weeks of ownership. I saw she wasn't getting better and realized she had serious problems and owners that paws didn't disclose to me. So I kept going back and forth with paws to get more info on her past. When they kept on giving me more and more missing info i decided to take her back because I did not sign up to care for a animal with medical needs - I just am not home enough to handle that. Three months later police showed up at my door. I buzzed them in thinking it was an amazon package. So I went to go meet who I thought was the delivery guy in the hallway , leaving my door open behind me. Moments later 8 narcotics and gang tac officers were approaching me. I was shocked - I had no warning or notice. They should have called me in over a cat, but didn't. Truth be told I bought guns the week prior to their arrival - I think this is what really triggered it. They couldn't get me on the cat case and they knew it, but used my surprise, my open door, and their nosy eyes to spot a small pipe on my table behind me which they used as probable cause to enter without permission. They backed me into my apartment , I couldn't just close the door on them. They then tore my house up and confiscated all my hidden guns claiming they were in plain sight and that it was protocol to do this for office safety even though i was the only one home and already in handcuffs. This was followed by a visit to a notorious black out site in near the south side where they detained me without a phone call for 18 hours, chained to a bench. I was treated like an animal and I am a college educated male with no previous record whatsoever. I believe they just wanted my guns cause I recently made a purchase and they were there in force in hopes of finding an easy reason to harass and confiscate weapons. Then to be an idiot off I went and bought more guns the next day - I Don't live in the best neighborhood. A week like they send a revocation letter with firearms disposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted April 16, 2019 at 08:48 PM Share Posted April 16, 2019 at 08:48 PM Not sure why the PAWS issue is posted, you keep saying it was over and settled!Three months later police show up.Not one or two, but 8 total GANG and TAC guys! Which was it, you buzzed in the mailman, or you had a package due from Amazon?Throw in a BLACK site, whew! And then you went out to buy more guns the day after you got out? If we keep going here there will be a full length movie possible..... Popping fresh corn and soda.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandonr91 Posted April 18, 2019 at 12:06 AM Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 at 12:06 AM (edited) One i was just giving the full story. The original post didn't seem to cover it all. So i thought to repaint the picture, of you will. You can choose to believe it or not. It's always been the same story. And I get a lot of amazon packages. I order most things from amazon. So typically when my bell is being rung it's a package either through usps or ups. Ups tends to bring it up the stairs, either way I usually go out to get things / check what's going on when someone rings my bell - I live in a three story condo. Edited April 18, 2019 at 12:09 AM by Brandonr91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandonr91 Posted April 18, 2019 at 12:12 AM Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 at 12:12 AM Additionally I was working from hole st this time running a small business - I was getting a lot of packages at the time for sure. Lastly, I did get a gun the next day. Bought a used Springfield xdm used locally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandonr91 Posted April 18, 2019 at 04:13 AM Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 at 04:13 AM After looking at original reports here from my lawyer (of the time) - the official reason the unit of tac officers was dispatched to my location was because of reported "Animal Abuse" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted April 18, 2019 at 03:21 PM Share Posted April 18, 2019 at 03:21 PM One i was just giving the full story. The original post didn't seem to cover it all. So i thought to repaint the picture, of you will. You can choose to believe it or not. It's always been the same story. And I get a lot of amazon packages. I order most things from amazon. So typically when my bell is being rung it's a package either through usps or ups. Ups tends to bring it up the stairs, either way I usually go out to get things / check what's going on when someone rings my bell - I live in a three story condo.You need a Ring camera doorbell. That way you will be able to see who's at your door without having to go down and back up 3 flights of stairs. Plus you will know if the person at the door is a bad guy or worse a cop coming to raid your home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandonr91 Posted April 18, 2019 at 03:26 PM Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 at 03:26 PM One i was just giving the full story. The original post didn't seem to cover it all. So i thought to repaint the picture, of you will. You can choose to believe it or not. It's always been the same story. And I get a lot of amazon packages. I order most things from amazon. So typically when my bell is being rung it's a package either through usps or ups. Ups tends to bring it up the stairs, either way I usually go out to get things / check what's going on when someone rings my bell - I live in a three story condo. You need a Ring camera doorbell. That way you will be able to see who's at your door without having to go down and back up 3 flights of stairs. Plus you will know if the person at the door is a bad guy or worse a cop coming to raid your home.Thumbs up for the suggestion. This is what I did after the incident because it opened my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted April 19, 2019 at 02:12 PM Share Posted April 19, 2019 at 02:12 PM Get a safe too. Keep as many guns locked up in there as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted April 19, 2019 at 04:16 PM Share Posted April 19, 2019 at 04:16 PM Get a safe too. Keep as many guns locked up in there as you can.The safe won't stop the cops from taking your guns. They will give you 2 choices either you open it or they'll open it. The only way the safe will help you is if you live with someone else who has a FOID and can claim the safe contains their guns (plus your guns you transferred/gave to them) and you don't have the combination or key to open it. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandonr91 Posted April 20, 2019 at 03:59 PM Author Share Posted April 20, 2019 at 03:59 PM Get a safe too. Keep as many guns locked up in there as you can.The safe won't stop the cops from taking your guns. They will give you 2 choices either you open it or they'll open it. The only way the safe will help you is if you live with someone else who has a FOID and can claim the safe contains their guns (plus your guns you transferred/gave to them) and you don't have the combination or key to open it. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Is that a theory there or reputed fact of how it would work out? I am curious, not trying to sound sarcastic if I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted April 20, 2019 at 05:06 PM Share Posted April 20, 2019 at 05:06 PM IANAL and dont know but I had read (on the internet /s ) in order to do a search of your safe, unless there are extreme circumstances, they need a court order/search warrant unless you volunteer to open it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted April 22, 2019 at 05:17 PM Share Posted April 22, 2019 at 05:17 PM They need a separate search warrant to open the safe. I wouldn't open it for them either. Why make it easy for them? At a minimum it would give you time to transfer the guns out of your house to a friend or family member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted April 22, 2019 at 11:55 PM Share Posted April 22, 2019 at 11:55 PM They need a separate search warrant to open the safe. I wouldn't open it for them either. Why make it easy for them? At a minimum it would give you time to transfer the guns out of your house to a friend or family member.So they station a squad outside your house while they get a warrant to make you open the safe. You walk out with your guns and they take them. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted April 24, 2019 at 02:16 PM Share Posted April 24, 2019 at 02:16 PM I call over a family member and they park their car in my garage. I load up their car with my guns.He drives away. Cops pull him over and try to search the car. They can't because they have no PC to even have stopped him.They do it anyway, but they can't take the guns because they are now the family members and not mine.Family member sues cops for 4th amendment civil rights violations. We can argue hypotheticals all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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