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#1 steveTA84

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Posted 23 June 2019 - 10:01 PM

https://www.chicagot...impression=true

U.S. Rep. Lauren Underwood, D-Naperville, held an invitation-only meeting Sunday in Batavia with stakeholders and gun violence prevention advocacy groups hoping they will help mobilize efforts this summer for gun reform.
The U.S. House earlier this year passed a bill expanding federal background checks for gun purchases and transfers, and another measure that would increase the waiting period that licensed firearm dealers and licensees have to wait from 3 to 10 days.

"We all know that we have a long road ahead in getting these changes made into law," Underwood said at a news conference after her meeting.
Among those in attendance were members of the Kane and Kendall county groups of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America; state Rep. Karina Villa, D-West Chicago; Batavia Mayor Jeff Schielke and Geneva Mayor Kevin Burns.


Burns is the guy who was going to grant them police protection at their public meetings to protect them from US! They think we want to hurt them!!!!! Last document

https://ilwd4cr.home...-last-document/

And heres some discussion involving the Batavia mayor and Geneva mayor from earlier this year


https://ilwd4cr.home...o-tire-of-them/

#2 steveTA84

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 12:08 AM

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 07:52 AM

Possibly the same article: https://www.chicagot...vnhu-story.html

 

 

"I don't think bump stocks and assault weapons that can spit multiple rounds in a minute are necessary for people to have for protection in their home," Korellis told The Beacon-News.

 

"We had a 100 people in the lecture hall. If the shooter had an assault weapon I would not be here today," he said.

 

So ill informed.



#4 steveTA84

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 08:04 AM

LOL!!!!! These people are pathetic

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 08:15 AM

Multiple rounds a minute?  
Showing their true colors I guess...

 

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 09:56 AM

To be fair, anything more than 1 round/minute is "multiple rounds a minute".



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Posted 24 June 2019 - 10:26 AM

Private meetings. You would think they’d want transparency so the public can be informed properly. Unless they aren’t informing everyone with the truth. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Posted 24 June 2019 - 12:07 PM

Let’s use this as a learning tool, shall we?



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Posted 24 June 2019 - 07:41 PM

Thanks Steve. I have personally done this within my school district .
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 08:33 PM

https://www.chicagot...impression=true
 

U.S. Rep. Lauren Underwood, D-Naperville, held an invitation-only meeting Sunday in Batavia with stakeholders and gun violence prevention advocacy groups hoping they will help mobilize efforts this summer for gun reform.
The U.S. House earlier this year passed a bill expanding federal background checks for gun purchases and transfers, and another measure that would increase the waiting period that licensed firearm dealers and licensees have to wait from 3 to 10 days.

"We all know that we have a long road ahead in getting these changes made into law," Underwood said at a news conference after her meeting.
Among those in attendance were members of the Kane and Kendall county groups of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America; state Rep. Karina Villa, D-West Chicago; Batavia Mayor Jeff Schielke and Geneva Mayor Kevin Burns.


Burns is the guy who was going to grant them police protection at their public meetings to protect them from US! They think we want to hurt them!!!!! Last document

https://ilwd4cr.home...-last-document/

And heres some discussion involving the Batavia mayor and Geneva mayor from earlier this year


https://ilwd4cr.home...o-tire-of-them/

 

They just can't handle the facts that uncover their lies.



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Posted 24 June 2019 - 09:09 PM

To be fair, anything more than 1 round/minute is "multiple rounds a minute".

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#12 steveTA84

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 11:23 AM

Let’s use this as a learning tool, shall we?
https://www.youtube....eature=youtu.be


So, got this response

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Don’t give up though. 5/20 city meeting minutes

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Added request

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And

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So, two more email addresses (the woman and Kane/Kendall county MDA) obtained to use for more area searches.

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 03:15 PM

My friend dealt with this same, closed off attitude with MDA. He went to their Aurora meeting (he had to cover them as a story for his journalism class) and went from being on the fence about the gun issue, to uber pro-gun because of how they received him. 



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Posted 25 June 2019 - 03:17 PM

My friend dealt with this same, closed off attitude with MDA. He went to their Aurora meeting (he had to cover them as a story for his journalism class) and went from being on the fence about the gun issue, to uber pro-gun because of how they received him.


What did they do?

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 04:10 PM

^^^

Show this to your friend

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 04:25 PM

^^^

Show this to your friend

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I don't understand? Do they call the police on people who attend their public meetings? This is confusing.



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Posted 25 June 2019 - 04:31 PM

I don't understand? Do they call the police on people who attend their public meetings? This is confusing.


MDA is requesting police protection from the Geneva mayor at their public meetings (which he is happy to oblige). Since your friend was at the aurora meeting mentioned......

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 04:35 PM

 

I don't understand? Do they call the police on people who attend their public meetings? This is confusing.


MDA is requesting police protection from the Geneva mayor at their public meetings (which he is happy to oblige). Since your friend was at the aurora meeting mentioned......

 

 

Ah, I see. That is unfortunate. IIRC, the Kane County Sheriff showed up at the meeting my friend attended for his school project.



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Posted 25 June 2019 - 04:39 PM

I don't understand? Do they call the police on people who attend their public meetings? This is confusing.


MDA is requesting police protection from the Geneva mayor at their public meetings (which he is happy to oblige). Since your friend was at the aurora meeting mentioned......
 
Ah, I see. That is unfortunate. IIRC, the Kane County Sheriff showed up at the meeting my friend attended for his school project.
well, if it was the one right after Henry Pratt, that’s the meeting they’re refering to. If it was a different one, then they’re on guard because we are all such “violent people” lol

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 09:07 PM

 

I don't understand? Do they call the police on people who attend their public meetings? This is confusing.


MDA is requesting police protection from the Geneva mayor at their public meetings (which he is happy to oblige). Since your friend was at the aurora meeting mentioned......

 


It would be interesting if other groups scheduled informational, public meetings and demanded police protection for those.  It could be pro-gun groups or groups having nothing to do with guns at all.  There are potentially hundreds of possibilities, all with an equal right to the free security services the Batavia Police Department graciously offers not just its residents, but residents of neighboring communities who have something to say in Batavia.

 

All in the spirit of equality ....



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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:01 PM

^^^^^

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Hold you horses -this is not right!!!!!!- folks, I didnt send it

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:31 PM

If they offer a free government service to any group, then they better offer it to all groups or establish non-discriminatory criteria describing who is eligible to receive the service and who is not.   Being anti-gun, or subscribing to any other political belief doesn't cut it.



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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:54 PM

If they offer a free government service to any group, then they better offer it to all groups or establish non-discriminatory criteria describing who is eligible to receive the service and who is not.   Being anti-gun, or subscribing to any other political belief doesn't cut it.


Police departments answer to mayors. Mayors do what gets them votes. Of course there will be political agendas behind who gets "service" and who doesn't.
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Posted 26 June 2019 - 07:10 AM

 

 

 

MDA is requesting police protection from the Geneva mayor at their public meetings (which he is happy to oblige). Since your friend was at the aurora meeting mentioned......
 
Ah, I see. That is unfortunate. IIRC, the Kane County Sheriff showed up at the meeting my friend attended for his school project.
well, if it was the one right after Henry Pratt, that’s the meeting they’re refering to. If it was a different one, then they’re on guard because we are all such “violent people” lol

 

Different one.  There were no cameras at the meeting right after Pratt.


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Posted 26 June 2019 - 08:19 AM

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MDA is requesting police protection from the Geneva mayor at their public meetings (which he is happy to oblige). Since your friend was at the aurora meeting mentioned......[/quote]
 
Ah, I see. That is unfortunate. IIRC, the Kane County Sheriff showed up at the meeting my friend attended for his school project.[/quote]
well, if it was the one right after Henry Pratt, that’s the meeting they’re refering to. If it was a different one, then they’re on guard because we are all such “violent people” lol
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Different one.  There were no cameras at the meeting right after Pratt.[/quote]

Well, looks like MDA is paranoid now that people who don’t agree with them will be attending publicly available meetings. The horror!!!!!

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Posted 26 June 2019 - 08:45 AM

How soon before they make all meetings closed door?


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Posted 26 June 2019 - 09:13 AM

How soon before they make all meetings closed door?


The sooner the better, as it makes it more difficult to recruit walk ins if people are being turned away

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Posted 27 June 2019 - 04:51 PM

 

My friend dealt with this same, closed off attitude with MDA. He went to their Aurora meeting (he had to cover them as a story for his journalism class) and went from being on the fence about the gun issue, to uber pro-gun because of how they received him.


What did they do?

 

 

Edit: repost. I shared my original post with my friend. He requested I do a repost because he wanted to take some time to

reflect about his experience. He thought some of his initial comments were not relevant, because they were too speculative in substance so I've reposted his comments accordingly. I went ahead and asked my friend (again) because I wanted to make sure I got everything clear about his interactions with MDA..

 

He went to the April 14th, MDA meeting that was held at Aurora Public Library. He was attending for a school project. This was not something he was enthusiastic about, especially with the weather being terrible; he went because it was something he needed to get done for an assignment. He helped them setup their room, and when people started to come in he got a seat and began taking footage with his phone. He was trying to get footage for a small media spot he was doing with his journalism class. The leader of that particular meeting was nervous about being recorded, telling him to stop filming her and go to the back of the room instead. He did this, but did not stop filming footage of that meeting - because he had an assignment for school. He obliged and went to the back, but did not stop filming the meeting.

 

He told me he left feeling awkward, because he felt they did not believe him when he informed them of his student credentials and his school project. He was asked about what he'd do with his footage. He told them it was for a school project and agreed to delete the footage he shot, after he wrapped this up. He deleted the footage, despite believing he was within his rights to record the meeting because my friend wanted to be diplomatic and kind. One of the MDA leaders did apologize for the awkward situation, they ended up helping him locate a better person to interview for his project (the footage he shot had no sound because his thumb was covering the microphone).

 

For my friend, he's moved on. This whole situation is water under the bridge for him. He's chalked it up as a valuable learning experience for being calm when the other side is afraid of talking. His views have obviously changed from being on the fence, to being uber pro-gun since that time. He credits his change in perspective to the pro-gun side not being afraid to be filmed, and open to showing him what they were about at the time. He did not like how MDA does not like people filming their events. That is something that just had him decide not to ever go back to their meetings. He told me that if a movement (MDA) is serious about their message and proud of it, they should not be ashamed of their message being recorded or written about - let alone criticized. 


Edited by crufflesmuth, 27 June 2019 - 05:01 PM.


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Posted 27 June 2019 - 05:41 PM

My friend dealt with this same, closed off attitude with MDA. He went to their Aurora meeting (he had to cover them as a story for his journalism class) and went from being on the fence about the gun issue, to uber pro-gun because of how they received him.


What did they do?
 
Edit: repost. I shared my original post with my friend. He requested I do a repost because he wanted to take some time to
reflect about his experience. He thought some of his initial comments were not relevant, because they were too speculative in substance so I've reposted his comments accordingly. I went ahead and asked my friend (again) because I wanted to make sure I got everything clear about his interactions with MDA..
 
He went to the April 14th, MDA meeting that was held at Aurora Public Library. He was attending for a school project. This was not something he was enthusiastic about, especially with the weather being terrible; he went because it was something he needed to get done for an assignment. He helped them setup their room, and when people started to come in he got a seat and began taking footage with his phone. He was trying to get footage for a small media spot he was doing with his journalism class. The leader of that particular meeting was nervous about being recorded, telling him to stop filming her and go to the back of the room instead. He did this, but did not stop filming footage of that meeting - because he had an assignment for school. He obliged and went to the back, but did not stop filming the meeting.
 
He told me he left feeling awkward, because he felt they did not believe him when he informed them of his student credentials and his school project. He was asked about what he'd do with his footage. He told them it was for a school project and agreed to delete the footage he shot, after he wrapped this up. He deleted the footage, despite believing he was within his rights to record the meeting because my friend wanted to be diplomatic and kind. One of the MDA leaders did apologize for the awkward situation, they ended up helping him locate a better person to interview for his project (the footage he shot had no sound because his thumb was covering the microphone).
 
For my friend, he's moved on. This whole situation is water under the bridge for him. He's chalked it up as a valuable learning experience for being calm when the other side is afraid of talking. His views have obviously changed from being on the fence, to being uber pro-gun since that time. He credits his change in perspective to the pro-gun side not being afraid to be filmed, and open to showing him what they were about at the time. He did not like how MDA does not like people filming their events. That is something that just had him decide not to ever go back to their meetings. He told me that if a movement (MDA) is serious about their message and proud of it, they should not be ashamed of their message being recorded or written about - let alone criticized.


Your friend is smart and gets it :)

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Posted 27 June 2019 - 06:53 PM

That last sentence says it all. If you feel your message is just , there is no reason to hide.






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