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#1 steveTA84

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Posted 04 May 2020 - 07:51 AM

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A number of Second Amendment cases 10 in all have been in suspended animation for months. Cases involving everything from may issue to banning assault weapons to interstate sales have been at the Supreme Court for consideration some for years and have been punted along, most likely awaiting a resolution in the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. City of New York case.



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Posted 04 May 2020 - 08:57 AM

Further down it states

 

"This morning, the Court’s order list was released…and didn’t mention any of the cases. The Justices have relisted all 10 of the Second Amendment cases, meaning the Court can take them up at some time down the road."

 

I read that as they can take them up in the future, what did I miss?


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Posted 04 May 2020 - 09:40 AM

The cases were not denied, they can still be considered.


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Posted 04 May 2020 - 09:54 AM

I suspet the SCOTUS is expecting a few State overreach cases do to these COVID edicts, and wants some room to take them.


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#5 steveTA84

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Posted 04 May 2020 - 11:52 AM

Further down it states
 
"This morning, the Court’s order list was released…and didn’t mention any of the cases. The Justices have relisted all 10 of the Second Amendment cases, meaning the Court can take them up at some time down the road."
 
I read that as they can take them up in the future, what did I miss?


That it won’t be immediate like some suspected

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Posted 04 May 2020 - 12:07 PM

Sounds to me like they didn't "punt" anything.  A DENIAL would be a punt.  This means they still can and have to do something with it.



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Posted 04 May 2020 - 12:22 PM

It is beyond frustrating when the court will not take these cases and do something about all the abuses. One could start thinking "they" don't want to uphold the 2nd,



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Posted 04 May 2020 - 10:17 PM

Possibly good news, they want to wait until RBG is replaced with a conservative?

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Posted 04 May 2020 - 11:33 PM

I think that Roberts is trying to keep the court's image as if it were just barely right of center. He knows the outcome of decisions that haven't been released yet and I suspect that if there is a big conservative win, he will temper it with minor liberal victories. Once the dust settles from this year's decisions he will let next year take form.

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Posted 05 May 2020 - 10:36 AM

As of this moment none have officially been relisted.
It’s early though.

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Posted 05 May 2020 - 06:52 PM

If they're not denied they're still active.


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Posted 06 May 2020 - 09:06 AM

SCOTUS has ten 2A cases to sort through. Not surprised they want more time to go over them before making a decision on which one(s) they want to grant cert.

 

Relist is not a bad thing.

 

From scotusblog:
 

 

Question:  What does it mean for the Court to relist a case?

 

Answer:  When a case is “relisted,” that means that it is set for reconsideration at the Justices’ next Conference.  Unlike a hold, this will show up on the case’s electronic docket.  A relist can mean several things, including the fairly straightforward prospect that one or more Justices wants to take a closer look at the case; that one or more Justices is trying to pick up enough votes to grant review (four are needed); that the Justices are writing a summary reversal (that is, a decision that the lower court opinion was so wrong that the Court can decide the case on the merits without briefing or oral argument); or that one or more Justices are writing a dissent from the decision to deny review.



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Posted 06 May 2020 - 01:38 PM

Not knowing how the SCOTUS works...it seems a number of those cases are very similar with there being about 3 themes represented within that group of 10.  Would the SCOTUS combine cases into a single decision or select 1 as representative and rule on it with that ruling acting as the guiding rule?


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Posted 06 May 2020 - 02:22 PM

While we should note that SCOTUS can do whatever it wishes (more or less), the typical practice would be to select one case for oral argument and hold the others.  Depending on the outcome, all others either would be remanded for further proceedings in a lower court "consistent with the opinion" of the decided case or their petitions would be denied if the outcome doesn't change their probable outcome.  In rare cases, cases arguing the same thing (challenging the same law, not similar ones) may be combined if there is good reason.  This is relatively rare.

 

It is very common to see cases relisted many times before they decided whether a case is to be heard.  At this point in the term, any case accepted would be argued in the fall.

 

We just have to wait and see.  


Edited by Silhouette, 06 May 2020 - 02:23 PM.


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Posted 06 May 2020 - 10:26 PM

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Posted 07 May 2020 - 06:59 AM

Not knowing how the SCOTUS works...it seems a number of those cases are very similar with there being about 3 themes represented within that group of 10.  Would the SCOTUS combine cases into a single decision or select 1 as representative and rule on it with that ruling acting as the guiding rule?

They would likely take 1 case, decide it, and send the rest back to the lower courts with instructions to look at the case just decided. There  are 3 NJ carry cases however. Those could possibly be consolidated since it's the same law being challenged.

The cases still haven't been relisted as of yet. It's looking like no conference tomorrow.


Edited by press1280, 07 May 2020 - 07:01 AM.


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Posted 11 May 2020 - 05:39 PM

The 2A cases are now "officially" listed as re-listed for the 5/15 conference on https://certpool.com...nces/2020-05-15.  (I note that this site is unofficial but quite reliable.)



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Posted 15 May 2020 - 11:09 AM

Not sure if they are done, but looks like they are Relisting all the 2A cases again for next week.



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Posted 15 May 2020 - 12:23 PM

Orders from this conference will be released on Monday around 9:30am EDT.  Occasionally, some orders are released on the day of the conference, but it is not the norm.  



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Posted 18 May 2020 - 07:39 AM

The 2A cases were neither granted nor denied.  Presumably they will be relisted again.  The next conference is on the 21st.



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Posted 18 May 2020 - 10:11 AM

One second amendment related case essentially dismissed as moot in the orders today.  Beers was seeking a license and ability to buy a firearm and was stopped by a mental treatment related issue if I understand correctly.  While the appeal was pending, the state apparently granted him his license and he was able to purchase a firearm.  



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Posted 18 May 2020 - 03:54 PM

The 2A cases were neither granted nor denied.  Presumably they will be relisted again.  The next conference is on the 21st.


Yep, they were re listed

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 10:07 AM

Looks like they have all been relisted yet again for the next conference on the 28th.

 

https://certpool.com...nces/2020-05-28.



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 02:32 PM

Maybe there will be another Trump SCOTUS appt?



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Posted 24 May 2020 - 08:06 PM

Now that the New York case is done, some of the appellate cases that were on hold should be getting decided. I wonder if they are waiting to see the Young or Nichols decisions first. There could be a case they hope to get working its way through the system.

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 04:15 PM

...and still no news.  All cases are listed for Thursday's conference.  Oddly, they were listed last last week....

 

 

From ScotusBlog: https://www.scotusbl...rants-today-14/

 

"And perhaps most notably, the justices did not act on any of the Second Amendment cases that they have now considered at three consecutive conferences; somewhat unusually, the electronic dockets for those cases (see, for example, here) all indicated late last week – that is, before today’s order list was even released – that the cases had been relisted for the upcoming conference on Thursday, May 28."



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Posted 15 June 2020 - 07:59 AM

Wow, I'm shocked. I guess that's it for any SCOTUS hopes for 2A cases. They denied cert for all 10 today. A sad end after all the great work that went into them.

 

Orders: https://www.supremec...520zor_f2bh.pdf



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Posted 15 June 2020 - 08:15 AM

Hi,

Roberts is orchestrating this with an eye toward a Trump loss, a Democrat-controlled Senate, and thus the likelihood of the next SC appointments being liberal.

He would see this as necessary balance. We would see this as a tragedy.

FWIW.

Rich Phillips




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