kwc Posted December 4, 2017 at 03:09 AM Share Posted December 4, 2017 at 03:09 AM The VA just announced that veterans who served in the military honorably and separated with less than 20 years of service may now obtain a national Veterans Identification Card (VIC). This card can be used in place of the DD214 when demonstrating proof of service to vendors and others who require it. The card was mandated via legislation in 2015 and has just now been made available. Veterans who separated with an honorable or a general (under honorable conditions) qualify for the card. Read more at this link: https://www.va.gov/opa/pressrel/pressrelease.cfm?id=3979 In the context of Illinois concealed carry licensing, instructors should be aware this could become an alternative way for veterans seeking the 8-hour training credit to provide proof of service. As an aside, keep in mind that both honorable and general (under honorable conditions) qualify for the training credit. See my post #23 in this thread: http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=63291 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blom Posted December 4, 2017 at 10:06 AM Share Posted December 4, 2017 at 10:06 AM Thanks kwc. I just tried to apply and they are overloaded right now. I was able to leave an e-mail address and they will get back to me when things settle down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevepk Posted December 4, 2017 at 12:28 PM Share Posted December 4, 2017 at 12:28 PM I work on Scott AFB. Wonder if I could go to the MPF and get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cola490 Posted December 4, 2017 at 01:20 PM Share Posted December 4, 2017 at 01:20 PM Thanks kwc. I just tried to apply and they are overloaded right now. I was able to leave an e-mail address and they will get back to me when things settle down.Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFA Posted December 4, 2017 at 01:28 PM Share Posted December 4, 2017 at 01:28 PM Thanks kwc. I just tried to apply and they are overloaded right now. I was able to leave an e-mail address and they will get back to me when things settle down.Me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdiller Posted December 4, 2017 at 01:57 PM Share Posted December 4, 2017 at 01:57 PM Leave it to the VA to underestimate the amount of traffic to it's website for this card. They should have learned from the first Obamacare enrollment. I've had one for a few years now. Mine says "Service connected". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huski92 Posted December 4, 2017 at 02:35 PM Share Posted December 4, 2017 at 02:35 PM Thanks for the info. I will be applying soon. Maybe after the rush. And don’t forget. You can have veteran status put on your Illinois drivers license too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted December 4, 2017 at 02:40 PM Share Posted December 4, 2017 at 02:40 PM I work on Scott AFB. Wonder if I could go to the MPF and get one. You already have a DD FORM 2 (RETIRED), your retired ID. The veteran card would just be redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted December 4, 2017 at 02:54 PM Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 at 02:54 PM I work on Scott AFB. Wonder if I could go to the MPF and get one. You already have a DD FORM 2 (RETIRED), your retired ID. The veteran card would just be redundant. Correct--as I understand it, the VIC is intended for those who served but did not continue until retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldMarineVet Posted December 4, 2017 at 03:02 PM Share Posted December 4, 2017 at 03:02 PM Thanks for the info. I will be applying soon. Maybe after the rush. And don’t forget. You can have veteran status put on your Illinois drivers license too. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAgreed. Did that. Does anybody know if the Veteran Indicator on the IL Drivers License is accepted by CCL instructors now? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod Posted December 4, 2017 at 03:40 PM Share Posted December 4, 2017 at 03:40 PM Don't think I'll need that card, I did however apply for burial at the Abraham Lincoln Cemetery. I think I'll be using that before needing to show my DD214 again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted December 6, 2017 at 04:09 AM Share Posted December 6, 2017 at 04:09 AM I have a VA card that says Service Connected from the VA Hospital, which works for this purpose, and the Veteran designation on my driver's license, but I've found that having "veterans cards" to pull of any variety is a fantastic benefit. It's gotten me out of jams as well as gotten me preferential treatment on numerous occasions. If you served, then you deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted December 6, 2017 at 11:02 PM Share Posted December 6, 2017 at 11:02 PM Tried to sign up on line. Kept getting the message that my information could not be found. I called the number they gave me; which turned out to be the wrong number of course. After being on hold over over an hour, I finally got to talk to someone. He told me my info was fine but the site was over loaded. I asked why not just say that instead of my info is missing. He told me to wait a week or two and try again. If that is what they are telling everyone, then it will be just as crammed gagged then. SO as usual you got all these benefits for your service, you just can't use them! AND they had 3 years to set this all up?????? No wonder veterans are in such lousy shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted December 6, 2017 at 11:12 PM Share Posted December 6, 2017 at 11:12 PM They gave me the option of entering my e-mail address and having them contact me via that means when the sight was fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDoctor Posted December 8, 2017 at 09:59 PM Share Posted December 8, 2017 at 09:59 PM Thanks for the info. I will be applying soon. Maybe after the rush. And don’t forget. You can have veteran status put on your Illinois drivers license too. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAgreed. Did that. Does anybody know if the Veteran Indicator on the IL Drivers License is accepted by CCL instructors now? Thanks OMV, my instructor (civilian) did not accept it last year. I sat for the first day as it was better than working on the honey do this and hurry list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldMarineVet Posted December 8, 2017 at 10:41 PM Share Posted December 8, 2017 at 10:41 PM Thanks for the info. I will be applying soon. Maybe after the rush. And don’t forget. You can have veteran status put on your Illinois drivers license too. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAgreed. Did that. Does anybody know if the Veteran Indicator on the IL Drivers License is accepted by CCL instructors now? Thanks OMV, my instructor (civilian) did not accept it last year. I sat for the first day as it was better than working on the honey do this and hurry list. Terrible to hear but good to know. I wonder why. Can't be any clearer or easier for Veterans. Hopefully other instructors do. Sounds like you had to pay for it the extra day on top of the insult. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSA Posted December 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM Share Posted December 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM Thanks for the info. I will be applying soon. Maybe after the rush. And don’t forget. You can have veteran status put on your Illinois drivers license too. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAgreed. Did that. Does anybody know if the Veteran Indicator on the IL Drivers License is accepted by CCL instructors now? Thanks Instructors should accept the DL with Veteran on it, you have to get your DD214 stamped certified by Veterans services to get the designations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldMarineVet Posted December 10, 2017 at 02:21 PM Share Posted December 10, 2017 at 02:21 PM Thanks for the info. I will be applying soon. Maybe after the rush. And don’t forget. You can have veteran status put on your Illinois drivers license too. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAgreed. Did that. Does anybody know if the Veteran Indicator on the IL Drivers License is accepted by CCL instructors now? Thanks Instructors should accept the DL with Veteran on it, you have to get your DD214 stamped certified by Veterans services to get the designations. Great to hear that from a "Certified Illinois Concealed Carry Licensed Instructor." Yes, went through that process. Thank you for your response. Assuming other Concealed Carry Instructors agree with you (except the goof that WitchDoctor encountered.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka Posted December 10, 2017 at 05:48 PM Share Posted December 10, 2017 at 05:48 PM So can someone post a picture of DL with the veteran's stamp on it? Of course please redact all personal information. I am an instructor and I have never seen one of these. All the veterans I have through my classes have come in with a DD-214. If anyone gets the VIC please post a picture of it too. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldMarineVet Posted December 10, 2017 at 08:53 PM Share Posted December 10, 2017 at 08:53 PM So can someone post a picture of DL with the veteran's stamp on it? Of course please redact all personal information. I am an instructor and I have never seen one of these. All the veterans I have through my classes have come in with a DD-214. If anyone gets the VIC please post a picture of it too. Thanks. The Illinois Drivers License has a small replicate of the picture in the bottom right hand corner. It says VETERAN (capitalized) just under that small picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted December 10, 2017 at 09:26 PM Share Posted December 10, 2017 at 09:26 PM So can someone post a picture of DL with the veteran's stamp on it? Of course please redact all personal information. I am an instructor and I have never seen one of these. All the veterans I have through my classes have come in with a DD-214. If anyone gets the VIC please post a picture of it too. Thanks. The Illinois Drivers License has a small replicate of the picture in the bottom right hand corner. It says VETERAN (capitalized) just under that small picture.This. The word veteran is awful small. To post a picture and Redac you would have nothing left to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianj - now in Kansas Posted December 11, 2017 at 05:04 PM Share Posted December 11, 2017 at 05:04 PM I've read a few stories about this, and according to what I read, the problem was that this ended out kind of being Obamacare pt. 2. Instead of building it in house, the VA contracted it out to the lowest bidder who was the lowest bidder for a reason. I'm still not convinced I want to actually let a copy of my DD-214 out there. According to the stories, the concept is that you send in a copy of your DD-214, and let them scan it in. Then, they send you an ID card saying you're a veteran with basic info, along with a QR code on the card that will let anyone with a cell phone and a PIN code you give them actually view a copy of your DD-214. I'm... not sure I like that. I'd really want to review the security on their database. Bri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted December 11, 2017 at 07:09 PM Share Posted December 11, 2017 at 07:09 PM So can someone post a picture of DL with the veteran's stamp on it? Of course please redact all personal information. I am an instructor and I have never seen one of these. All the veterans I have through my classes have come in with a DD-214. If anyone gets the VIC please post a picture of it too. Thanks. This is what mine looks like, with redactions. I've underlined the "VETERAN" notation in green, on the bottom left of the license below the main photo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted December 11, 2017 at 08:21 PM Share Posted December 11, 2017 at 08:21 PM So can someone post a picture of DL with the veteran's stamp on it? Of course please redact all personal information. I am an instructor and I have never seen one of these. All the veterans I have through my classes have come in with a DD-214. If anyone gets the VIC please post a picture of it too. Thanks. This is what mine looks like, with redactions. I've underlined the "VETERAN" notation in green, on the bottom left of the license below the main photo: Mine does not look like that at all. Small picture lower right and printed in little letters VETERAN under picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted December 11, 2017 at 09:49 PM Share Posted December 11, 2017 at 09:49 PM So can someone post a picture of DL with the veteran's stamp on it? Of course please redact all personal information. I am an instructor and I have never seen one of these. All the veterans I have through my classes have come in with a DD-214. If anyone gets the VIC please post a picture of it too. Thanks. This is what mine looks like, with redactions. I've underlined the "VETERAN" notation in green, on the bottom left of the license below the main photo: Mine does not look like that at all. Small picture lower right and printed in little letters VETERAN under picture The license in the picture above is not the current license. The license has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldMarineVet Posted December 11, 2017 at 11:37 PM Share Posted December 11, 2017 at 11:37 PM Yes, it's older than my DL also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted December 12, 2017 at 02:47 PM Share Posted December 12, 2017 at 02:47 PM I've read a few stories about this, and according to what I read, the problem was that this ended out kind of being Obamacare pt. 2. Instead of building it in house, the VA contracted it out to the lowest bidder who was the lowest bidder for a reason. I'm still not convinced I want to actually let a copy of my DD-214 out there. According to the stories, the concept is that you send in a copy of your DD-214, and let them scan it in. Then, they send you an ID card saying you're a veteran with basic info, along with a QR code on the card that will let anyone with a cell phone and a PIN code you give them actually view a copy of your DD-214. I'm... not sure I like that. I'd really want to review the security on their database. BriI got an early retirement in 1999, and until last year my retired ID had my social security number on it. I finally went in and got it replaced. No more SSAN. I still have many sets of orders (deployments, awards, etc.) in my files with many names listed and everybody's SSAN is on them. Talk about bad COMSEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted January 17, 2018 at 02:25 PM Share Posted January 17, 2018 at 02:25 PM Got email overnight that the site is back up. Applied for my card early this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtr100 Posted January 17, 2018 at 06:08 PM Share Posted January 17, 2018 at 06:08 PM Got email overnight that the site is back up. Applied for my card early this morning. seems it's "invitation only" at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmac702 Posted January 18, 2018 at 06:33 PM Share Posted January 18, 2018 at 06:33 PM Got email overnight that the site is back up. Applied for my card early this morning.seems it's "invitation only" at this point Yep, yesterday, left my email twice with no reply from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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