lilguy Posted March 16, 2018 at 09:36 PM Share Posted March 16, 2018 at 09:36 PM If one had the skill and ability to go into a shop and try blocking their hicaps at 10 rounds, would it be worth it? Filling and welding a pin in place would do it, spring modification would take some trial and error. Not sure what the states readily restored or converted means. One can make them nearly impossible to alter without damage. This would be interesting. There are tactical shotguns that hold 14 rounds in two fixed tubes. Are they banned?One that manually rotates 4 four round detachable magazines. There are some matalic cartridge units, with detachable mags, that you can not make low capacity an option. Those have got to go, but where?For those who have C+R licenses, they are on the record with thier CLEO as being active gun collectors and possibly into hicap SBRs. How aggressive mights local LE become if all this goes into effect. This is going to be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45Badger Posted March 16, 2018 at 09:51 PM Share Posted March 16, 2018 at 09:51 PM I sold all my stuff... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hgmeyer Posted March 16, 2018 at 09:54 PM Share Posted March 16, 2018 at 09:54 PM This whole set of proposed laws is much more similar to a worm hole than good legislating. "Readily converted" is really anything A reasonably well equipped home shop and voila. and then, the who's opinion of readily converted? 5 minutes, 15 minutes or 1 hour? Pins. detents, all manner of "blocks" can be defeated. A welder and I am off to the races... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted March 16, 2018 at 10:01 PM Share Posted March 16, 2018 at 10:01 PM Dup???? IBTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuddster Posted March 17, 2018 at 12:26 AM Share Posted March 17, 2018 at 12:26 AM While I don't have any magazines, just a few double barrel shotguns as Uncle Joe suggested...there is a company called MagBlock that sells spacers to convert popular mags to 10 round. Weather this would be considered acceptable is hard to say. But they are accepted as a permanent fix in other states according to the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy6862 Posted March 17, 2018 at 01:27 AM Share Posted March 17, 2018 at 01:27 AM IM Out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted March 17, 2018 at 01:56 AM Share Posted March 17, 2018 at 01:56 AM As it stands now I don't own any 30 round rifle magazines, only 30 round pistol magazines. And if preemption or mag bans are passed I will only own 10 round 458scom magazines. Too bad 499LWR never took off, because 0.001 of a caliber is just to dangerous for Crook County. I'd love to toe that rediculous line as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksinthe Posted March 17, 2018 at 03:23 AM Share Posted March 17, 2018 at 03:23 AM Preemption won't get rolled back and we won't see magazine restrictions, IMO. Dems still want their jobs, the only way they can do that is by pretending to throw a hissy fit when Rauner vetos bills due to overreach by the Dems. BUUUT, for the sake of argument - the wording is too vague. "Readily converted" can mean anything like hgmeyer stated. The point of these laws (and any, if you think about it) is not to be precise with wording, but leave just enough wiggle room to cast a wider net based on how a prosecutor "interprets" the law. This allows the maximum amount of examples set by the government against an otherwise law abiding public while the Dems continue the culture of catch and release of actual felons in hopes they keep on being criminals to maintain the boogeyman of "GUNS ARE BAD!" the next time they kill another government employee. But it's all good if criminals kill each other or little children in the city. Anything for that virtue signaling during an election year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunuser17 Posted March 17, 2018 at 03:46 AM Share Posted March 17, 2018 at 03:46 AM In the unlikely event that 10 round becomes the law, that is an issue that California has dealt with for a number of years. As someone mentions, Magblock epoxied in place is one solution as well as riveting the larger magazine. In addition, a number of 10 round magazines are sold for firearms due to the California laws. Because law enforcement can buy off roster firearms in California, even 10 round magazines are available for guns not commonly sold to non-law enforcment buyers in California. A number of other states have various magazine capacity limits. I sure don't want to have to deal with it but others are already dealing with it and, at least in California, hope that the current pending lawsuit will take out the requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tricolor Posted March 17, 2018 at 04:19 AM Share Posted March 17, 2018 at 04:19 AM Preemption won't get rolled back and we won't see magazine restrictions, IMO. Dems still want their jobs, the only way they can do that is by pretending to throw a hissy fit when Rauner vetos bills due to overreach by the Dems. From your lips to God's ears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted March 17, 2018 at 01:36 PM Share Posted March 17, 2018 at 01:36 PM Preemption won't get rolled back and we won't see magazine restrictions, IMO. Dems still want their jobs, the only way they can do that is by pretending to throw a hissy fit when Rauner vetos bills due to overreach by the Dems. From your lips to God's ears!Hope you are right but the 2M FOID holders need to get involved. We have been too close to AWB and mag bans. Redistricting has given me Chicago Dem minions. The hard core antis vote is not in question. There are several legislators retiring post election and you have those who will lose their reelection bid. I'm a bit nervous about the potential of those lame duck votes. How many of these can we afford to lose (image from illinois working tweet 9/2017) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted March 18, 2018 at 11:06 AM Share Posted March 18, 2018 at 11:06 AM Preemption won't get rolled back and we won't see magazine restrictions, IMO. Dems still want their jobs, the only way they can do that is by pretending to throw a hissy fit when Rauner vetos bills due to overreach by the Dems.From your lips to God's ears!Hope you are right but the 2M FOID holders need to get involved. We have been too close to AWB and mag bans. Redistricting has given me Chicago Dem minions.The hard core antis vote is not in question. There are several legislators retiring post election and you have those who will lose their reelection bid. I'm a bit nervous about the potential of those lame duck votes.This note from Interested Bystander is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted March 18, 2018 at 01:35 PM Share Posted March 18, 2018 at 01:35 PM All of my guns and magazines are compliant with the US Constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeterlancer Posted March 18, 2018 at 03:00 PM Share Posted March 18, 2018 at 03:00 PM How I plan on being compliant: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wig Posted March 20, 2018 at 12:13 AM Share Posted March 20, 2018 at 12:13 AM 10 round compliant? You have to go buy a 458 socom upper. Then all your magazine are 10 round compliant for the 458. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcc Posted March 20, 2018 at 02:53 AM Share Posted March 20, 2018 at 02:53 AM All of my guns and magazines are compliant with the US Constitution. This... I won't comply with illegal laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted March 20, 2018 at 03:03 AM Share Posted March 20, 2018 at 03:03 AM In the unlikely event that 10 round becomes the law, that is an issue that California has dealt with for a number of years. As someone mentions, Magblock epoxied in place is one solution as well as riveting the larger magazine. In addition, a number of 10 round magazines are sold for firearms due to the California laws. Because law enforcement can buy off roster firearms in California, even 10 round magazines are available for guns not commonly sold to non-law enforcment buyers in California. A number of other states have various magazine capacity limits. I sure don't want to have to deal with it but others are already dealing with it and, at least in California, hope that the current pending lawsuit will take out the requirement. California, NY, NJ, MA....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkdkaliman101 Posted March 21, 2018 at 07:08 PM Share Posted March 21, 2018 at 07:08 PM All of my guns and magazines are compliant with the US Constitution. This... I won't comply with illegal laws.Something I've thought about quite a bit. If we have an AWB or a 10 rnd limit I wonder what would MOST people do? Get rid of them? Lock em in a safe and stay quiet, store them out of state at a relatives home, turn them in/sell them? What's the general consensus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk5 Posted March 21, 2018 at 08:01 PM Share Posted March 21, 2018 at 08:01 PM All of my guns and magazines are compliant with the US Constitution. This... I won't comply with illegal laws.Something I've thought about quite a bit. If we have an AWB or a 10 rnd limit I wonder what would MOST people do? Get rid of them? Lock em in a safe and stay quiet, store them out of state at a relatives home, turn them in/sell them? What's the general consensus? Don't know nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted March 21, 2018 at 08:31 PM Share Posted March 21, 2018 at 08:31 PM I don't have any of these items but if I did I would keep them and not turn them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twostarrz Posted March 22, 2018 at 03:50 AM Share Posted March 22, 2018 at 03:50 AM I left all of my firearms, ammo, and accessories on the piano and wouldn’t you know it they repossessed the piano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted March 22, 2018 at 06:58 AM Share Posted March 22, 2018 at 06:58 AM The local gun store owner recently said business has been GREAT! I didn't ask about mags or sport rifles specifically - but it seemed to me that he was inferring that people were stocking up. Does anyone really think that they will start chasing this stuff down if anything is made into law? What was the acronym of that gun task force in Chicago? Does anyone think that would go state-wide? And there is to be no reimbursement for your property that was made illegal through no fault of yours. Isn't there something the courts could say about that? And where would all these newly created criminals be incarcerated at with jails and prisons in Illinois already over-filled? So many unanswered questions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted March 22, 2018 at 08:54 PM Share Posted March 22, 2018 at 08:54 PM All of my guns and magazines are compliant with the US Constitution. This... I won't comply with illegal laws.Something I've thought about quite a bit. If we have an AWB or a 10 rnd limit I wonder what would MOST people do? Get rid of them? Lock em in a safe and stay quiet, store them out of state at a relatives home, turn them in/sell them? What's the general consensus? If we get a AWB my AR will take up residency at my cottage in WI. My handgun mags over 10 rounds will be hidden within my house where only my wife and I will know where they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX63 Posted March 22, 2018 at 09:02 PM Share Posted March 22, 2018 at 09:02 PM Don't think there should be any further concern with liberal Californians fleeing to and corrupting conservative states. There should be enough Illinoisans migrating out of here to offset the imbalance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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