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If one had the skill and ability to go into a shop and try blocking their hicaps at 10 rounds, would it be worth it? Filling and welding a pin in place would do it, spring modification would take some trial and error. Not sure what the states readily restored or converted means. One can make them nearly impossible to alter without damage. This would be interesting.

There are tactical shotguns that hold 14 rounds in two fixed tubes. Are they banned?

One that manually rotates 4 four round detachable magazines.

There are some matalic cartridge units, with detachable mags, that you can not make low capacity an option. Those have got to go, but where?

For those who have C+R licenses, they are on the record with thier CLEO as being active gun collectors and possibly into hicap SBRs. How aggressive mights local LE become if all this goes into effect.

 

This is going to be interesting.

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This whole set of proposed laws is much more similar to a worm hole than good legislating. "Readily converted" is really anything A reasonably well equipped home shop and voila. and then, the who's opinion of readily converted? 5 minutes, 15 minutes or 1 hour? Pins. detents, all manner of "blocks" can be defeated. A welder and I am off to the races...

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While I don't have any magazines, just a few double barrel shotguns as Uncle Joe suggested...there is a company called MagBlock that sells spacers to convert popular mags to 10 round. Weather this would be considered acceptable is hard to say. But they are accepted as a permanent fix in other states according to the company.
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Preemption won't get rolled back and we won't see magazine restrictions, IMO. Dems still want their jobs, the only way they can do that is by pretending to throw a hissy fit when Rauner vetos bills due to overreach by the Dems.

 

BUUUT, for the sake of argument - the wording is too vague. "Readily converted" can mean anything like hgmeyer stated.

 

The point of these laws (and any, if you think about it) is not to be precise with wording, but leave just enough wiggle room to cast a wider net based on how a prosecutor "interprets" the law.

 

This allows the maximum amount of examples set by the government against an otherwise law abiding public while the Dems continue the culture of catch and release of actual felons in hopes they keep on being criminals to maintain the boogeyman of "GUNS ARE BAD!" the next time they kill another government employee. But it's all good if criminals kill each other or little children in the city. Anything for that virtue signaling during an election year!

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In the unlikely event that 10 round becomes the law, that is an issue that California has dealt with for a number of years. As someone mentions, Magblock epoxied in place is one solution as well as riveting the larger magazine. In addition, a number of 10 round magazines are sold for firearms due to the California laws. Because law enforcement can buy off roster firearms in California, even 10 round magazines are available for guns not commonly sold to non-law enforcment buyers in California. A number of other states have various magazine capacity limits. I sure don't want to have to deal with it but others are already dealing with it and, at least in California, hope that the current pending lawsuit will take out the requirement.

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Preemption won't get rolled back and we won't see magazine restrictions, IMO. Dems still want their jobs, the only way they can do that is by pretending to throw a hissy fit when Rauner vetos bills due to overreach by the Dems.

 

From your lips to God's ears!
Hope you are right but the 2M FOID holders need to get involved. We have been too close to AWB and mag bans. Redistricting has given me Chicago Dem minions.

 

The hard core antis vote is not in question. There are several legislators retiring post election and you have those who will lose their reelection bid. I'm a bit nervous about the potential of those lame duck votes.

 

How many of these can we afford to lose (image from illinois working tweet 9/2017)

 

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Preemption won't get rolled back and we won't see magazine restrictions, IMO. Dems still want their jobs, the only way they can do that is by pretending to throw a hissy fit when Rauner vetos bills due to overreach by the Dems.

From your lips to God's ears!

Hope you are right but the 2M FOID holders need to get involved. We have been too close to AWB and mag bans. Redistricting has given me Chicago Dem minions.

The hard core antis vote is not in question. There are several legislators retiring post election and you have those who will lose their reelection bid. I'm a bit nervous about the potential of those lame duck votes.

This note from Interested Bystander is spot on.
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In the unlikely event that 10 round becomes the law, that is an issue that California has dealt with for a number of years. As someone mentions, Magblock epoxied in place is one solution as well as riveting the larger magazine. In addition, a number of 10 round magazines are sold for firearms due to the California laws. Because law enforcement can buy off roster firearms in California, even 10 round magazines are available for guns not commonly sold to non-law enforcment buyers in California. A number of other states have various magazine capacity limits. I sure don't want to have to deal with it but others are already dealing with it and, at least in California, hope that the current pending lawsuit will take out the requirement.

California, NY, NJ, MA.......

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All of my guns and magazines are compliant with the US Constitution.

 

This... I won't comply with illegal laws.

Something I've thought about quite a bit. If we have an AWB or a 10 rnd limit I wonder what would MOST people do? Get rid of them? Lock em in a safe and stay quiet, store them out of state at a relatives home, turn them in/sell them? What's the general consensus?
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All of my guns and magazines are compliant with the US Constitution.

This... I won't comply with illegal laws.

Something I've thought about quite a bit. If we have an AWB or a 10 rnd limit I wonder what would MOST people do? Get rid of them? Lock em in a safe and stay quiet, store them out of state at a relatives home, turn them in/sell them? What's the general consensus?

 

 

Don't know nothing.

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The local gun store owner recently said business has been GREAT! I didn't ask about mags or sport rifles specifically - but it seemed to me that he was inferring that people were stocking up. Does anyone really think that they will start chasing this stuff down if anything is made into law? What was the acronym of that gun task force in Chicago? Does anyone think that would go state-wide? And there is to be no reimbursement for your property that was made illegal through no fault of yours. Isn't there something the courts could say about that? And where would all these newly created criminals be incarcerated at with jails and prisons in Illinois already over-filled? So many unanswered questions!

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All of my guns and magazines are compliant with the US Constitution.

This... I won't comply with illegal laws.

Something I've thought about quite a bit. If we have an AWB or a 10 rnd limit I wonder what would MOST people do? Get rid of them? Lock em in a safe and stay quiet, store them out of state at a relatives home, turn them in/sell them? What's the general consensus?

 

If we get a AWB my AR will take up residency at my cottage in WI. My handgun mags over 10 rounds will be hidden within my house where only my wife and I will know where they are.

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