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Posted 29 November 2017 - 12:42 PM

Jeanne Ives will be on the Republican primary ballot in the spring. You need to send her money if she's going to have a chance against Rauner's war chest.

 

If Rauner has been a disappointment to you, do something to make a difference and you need to do it now. Donate, volunteer. Do SOMETHING!!

 

Not someone else. YOU!

 

I already threw her a few bucks and collected signatures. We need help.



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Posted 29 November 2017 - 01:20 PM

I posted this information on another thread.

 

 

Jeanne Ives a state representative, district 42, from DuPage County is in the early stages of establishing a primary challenge to Governor Rauner.  She is a West Point grad and veteran and votes pro-2A.  She has chosen Rich Morthland, a Rock Island County Board member who previously served in the Illinois House from 2011 to 2013, as her running mate.  Going against the big money of Rauner and Pritscher will be stiff challenges.

 

http://www.ilga.gov/...p?MemberID=2045

http://www.nwherald....rauner/atkvx5z/

http://www.jeanneives.org/



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Posted 29 November 2017 - 05:20 PM

Nothing against Ives but what do you have against Rauner other than he did not turn out to be a RINO.

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 07:15 PM

Nothing against Ives but what do you have against Rauner other than he did not turn out to be a RINO.



He turned out to be a lay down for the dems, He never once fought for anything meaningful and let the leprehchan Maddy have his way. A rhino? A rhino would've been better!
What did he do that give you the tingles?

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 08:08 PM

Lets be 100% realistic here. Rauner is not the best but Ives doesn't have a chance against his money. He is better then Pritzker would ever be and now that Chris Kennedy is going to drain a bit from Pritzkers war chest, the last thing anybody in Illinois needs is Ives draining Rauners. If you send Ives money then that's more money Rauner has to spend in the primary and while she likely would be the best choice, she has no chance. I'm not a Rauner fan BUT anything then Pritzker or Kennedy. I have nothing against Ives but she has no business in the IL governors race. She only jumped in because he signed HB40 and she saw an opportunity. Yay, she won Wheaton in the primary!

Rauner has been a huge disappointment to me but he's 100X better then Pritzker. Ives is deluded if she honestly thinks she has a chance.

 

The only thing she accomplishes in the end is she loses her seat in the 42nd district.



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Posted 29 November 2017 - 10:59 PM

Lets be 100% realistic here. Rauner is not the best but Ives doesn't have a chance against his money. He is better then Pritzker would ever be and now that Chris Kennedy is going to drain a bit from Pritzkers war chest, the last thing anybody in Illinois needs is Ives draining Rauners. If you send Ives money then that's more money Rauner has to spend in the primary and while she likely would be the best choice, she has no chance. I'm not a Rauner fan BUT anything then Pritzker or Kennedy. I have nothing against Ives but she has no business in the IL governors race. She only jumped in because he signed HB40 and she saw an opportunity. Yay, she won Wheaton in the primary!
Rauner has been a huge disappointment to me but he's 100X better then Pritzker. Ives is deluded if she honestly thinks she has a chance.
 
The only thing she accomplishes in the end is she loses her seat in the 42nd district.


Do you believe she'd make a better Govenor? The we have to support HER and not worry about anything else, are the money boys buying votes? Two scum families on the left and a squish hedge fund boy on the so-called other side and we worry? Support the best candidate in the race and stop this stupidity once and for all. BTW nobody gave the Don a chance and look what happened.

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 11:39 PM

I'm just trying to be realistic. In the end this doesn't help the 2nd Amendment cause. This isn't an electoral college deal, its winner takes all. You are thinking with your emotions and not looking at the facts. There are no emotions in politics, just winners and losers. 

The big money wins the popular vote. Whose big money do you want to win, Pritzker or Rauner? It's that simple. 

I do think she would make the best Governor but it's all about money which she doesn't have and wont get so she loses.

Actually a lot of people thought that Trump would win, HRC was too concerned with the popular vote and got played.

Feel free to give her money and volunteer, it's your Right and vote. Don't think for a second she will win, that's a fantasy.



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Posted 30 November 2017 - 06:43 AM

"Do you believe she'd make a better Govenor?"

 

Maybe it's my cynical life view after nearly 7 decades in Chicago talking, but since when did 'who would make the 'best' (any political office including Governor) play a role in an election win? Advertising, money and clout? Oh heckfire yes! Gerrymandering and dirty politics? You Betcha! "Best for the job"? Nada. Voting AGAINST someone rather than really voting FOR someone? Happened last November on the National scene.

 

A virtual no-name person, regardless of their qualifications, in the real world in which we live, does not stand a chance in a Gubernatorial race in Illinois. I would view casting a ballot for this Ives person as wasting my vote. 


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Posted 30 November 2017 - 09:21 AM

I think some may be a little hard and unfair toward Rauner. Madigan showed he held a veto over ride control. What can Ives or an other conservative do differently.
Until Illinois changes the make up of the house and senate we remain screwed.

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Posted 30 November 2017 - 10:31 AM

I think some may be a little hard and unfair toward Rauner. Madigan showed he held a veto over ride control. What can Ives or an other conservative do differently.
Until Illinois changes the make up of the house and senate we remain screwed.

Yep, that is where the effort needs to be, getting out the entrenched Madiganites, antigunners and worthless Repubs. 


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Posted 30 November 2017 - 11:23 AM

Firstly, Rauner is going to get killed by Prizker.

 

Secondly, Yes, these RINOs need to go. Yes, that's enough for me to oppose him. I can not tolerate the use of my tax dollars for baby butchering. And, I can not tolerate a man who would thwart federal immigration enforcement.

 

Thirdly, I will not vote for Rauner in the general election under any circumstances. Period. So, I'm making my stand now...win or lose.



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Posted 30 November 2017 - 11:48 AM

Jeanne Ives swore an oath to defend the Constitution and she is serious about it - she's a champ !

 

I wish she'd run for president, our country needs her !


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Posted 30 November 2017 - 12:01 PM

Jeanne Ives swore an oath to defend the Constitution and she is serious about it - she's a champ !

 

I wish she'd run for president, our country needs her !

 

Amen. Yes, she is a veteran.



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Posted 30 November 2017 - 12:06 PM

Whoever wins the primary will have to be able to win 23% of the votes in Cook County to win the gubernatorial election.


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Posted 30 November 2017 - 12:43 PM

Whoever wins the primary will have to be able to win 23% of the votes in Cook County to win the gubernatorial election.

Well, she does have the XX chromosome thing going.  If she can get half of the female Cook county vote "cause she's a woman", that has to be close, if not over the 23% needed.


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Posted 30 November 2017 - 12:50 PM

 

 

Thirdly, I will not vote for Rauner in the general election under any circumstances. Period. So, I'm making my stand now...win or lose.

 

Future Governor Pritzker says "Thank you" for that... 

 

But back to the primary:  Ives is a much better candidate, and I absolutely will vote for her in the primary!  My wife and I gladly signed the petition to get her on the ballot.  But in the general election, I will vote for whoever is not Pritzker...


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Posted 30 November 2017 - 12:54 PM

 

 

 

Thirdly, I will not vote for Rauner in the general election under any circumstances. Period. So, I'm making my stand now...win or lose.

 

Future Governor Pritzker says "Thank you" for that... 

 

But back to the primary:  Ives is a much better candidate, and I absolutely will vote for her in the primary!  My wife and I gladly signed the petition to get her on the ballot.  But in the general election, I will vote for whoever is not Pritzker...

 

 

You're free to do as you like. I will not be a party to baby murder. I will not have my name associated with either of these evil men. That's a violation of my conscience and I'd rather die than be a part of it.



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Posted 30 November 2017 - 08:49 PM

 

 

 

 

Thirdly, I will not vote for Rauner in the general election under any circumstances. Period. So, I'm making my stand now...win or lose.

 

Future Governor Pritzker says "Thank you" for that... 

 

But back to the primary:  Ives is a much better candidate, and I absolutely will vote for her in the primary!  My wife and I gladly signed the petition to get her on the ballot.  But in the general election, I will vote for whoever is not Pritzker...

 

 

You're free to do as you like. I will not be a party to baby murder. I will not have my name associated with either of these evil men. That's a violation of my conscience and I'd rather die than be a part of it.

 

 

Which seems to be pretty a popular view. A lot of people are saying they are not going to vote at all because Rauner signed HB40 and they would never vote for Pritzker. My angle is hopefully the Kennedy - Pritzker primary gets very ugly and there is a lot of dirt thrown around. They are both already being called out on their tax returns and when the general population sees how Pritzker and Kennedy game the tax system, it seriously hurts their credibility. They are both legal tax dodgers. I hope that's a very ugly and dirty primary and they both get muddy.

 

Actually Ives might be a good thing for Rauner because she will get Republicans out to vote, even if it's against Rauner. Say she gets 20% of the vote in the primary. Some of those people who came out to vote for her then see its Rauner or Pritzker after she loses. Say 5% who he alienated. Those 5% vote for him because there is no way they are going to vote for Pritzker but weren't going to vote at all.

 

In the end her running in the primary becomes a good thing for Rauner. He gains 5% of the vote he didn't have and it might be just enough to win. Jeanne Ives might be a deciding factor after all but she will never be Governor. She might be the best candidate but she's missing one thing: Billions of dollars. This will be a billion dollar governor race. If so much wasn't at stake I would almost say it should be fun.



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Posted 01 December 2017 - 08:20 AM

Jeanne Ives swore an oath to defend the Constitution and she is serious about it - she's a champ !

 

I wish she'd run for president, our country needs her !

You think Jeanne Ives would do a better job than President Trump?



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Posted 01 December 2017 - 08:23 AM

 

 

 

 

Thirdly, I will not vote for Rauner in the general election under any circumstances. Period. So, I'm making my stand now...win or lose.

 

Future Governor Pritzker says "Thank you" for that... 

 

But back to the primary:  Ives is a much better candidate, and I absolutely will vote for her in the primary!  My wife and I gladly signed the petition to get her on the ballot.  But in the general election, I will vote for whoever is not Pritzker...

 

 

You're free to do as you like. I will not be a party to baby murder. I will not have my name associated with either of these evil men. That's a violation of my conscience and I'd rather die than be a part of it.

 

Ahh. You think your "no-vote" would carry the same weight as a "vote."



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Posted 01 December 2017 - 08:51 AM

The big money wins the popular vote.

 

In the year 2000 Republican primary to replace retiring 10th Congressional District Representative John Porter, Shawn Margaret Donnelley (heiress to the R.R. Donnelley & Sons fortune) spent at least 2.3 million dollars of her family's money to win 9,585 votes ($240 a vote). Another candidate, Andrew Hochberg, spent $1 million of his own money for a solid 7,480 votes.

 

Mark Kirk, an aid to Porter, moved into the district in September of 1999, and won the March 2000 primary with 19,717 votes. He spent way less than half a million dollars. Half a million dollars on a congressional primary is big money to be sure, but it is proof enough that there is a limit to what $2.3 million can buy.

 

Jim Oberweis and Richard Lugar proved that money alone won't buy enough votes to get elected -- and Ross Perot proved all the money in the world can't buy you one (1) electoral vote.

 

Money is necessary, but it won't sell a deficient product. Hillary Clinton spend $1.2 billion on her failed campaign; Trump spent less than 1/12th of that.


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Posted 01 December 2017 - 08:57 AM

<popcorn>  I don't see rauner winning re-election. He isolated too many people that voted for him last election. The push for Ives is proof of that.  The machine controlled media has never stopped blitzing against rauner. The machine marketing money has continuously run anti rauner campaign style ads since rauner took office, those usually end after the election. Those ads have blamed everything that is wrong in this state on Rauner and the sheeple buy it up. 


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Posted 01 December 2017 - 10:03 AM

<popcorn>  I don't see rauner winning re-election. He isolated too many people that voted for him last election. The push for Ives is proof of that.  The machine controlled media has never stopped blitzing against rauner. The machine marketing money has continuously run anti rauner campaign style ads since rauner took office, those usually end after the election. Those ads have blamed everything that is wrong in this state on Rauner and the sheeple buy it up. 

 

Exactly. Rauner is going to get destroyed either way.



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Posted 01 December 2017 - 10:05 AM

 

Ahh. You think your "no-vote" would carry the same weight as a "vote."

 

 

 

No. I think, as I explained, I can't stomach voting for a man who thinks it's okay to use my money to murder babies. I think I was pretty clear about that. I'd rather go down for something I believe that live for something I don't.

 

I can compromise on a lot. Baby murder isn't one of them.



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Posted 01 December 2017 - 10:18 AM

Ok, you understand the repercussions your "no-vote." Some people don't. Lot's of "no-votes" from people who were "rubbed the wrong way" by Trump. Made them feel like they were making a significant stand. Glad Trump still won.


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Posted 01 December 2017 - 10:20 AM

 

<popcorn>  I don't see rauner winning re-election. He isolated too many people that voted for him last election. The push for Ives is proof of that.  The machine controlled media has never stopped blitzing against rauner. The machine marketing money has continuously run anti rauner campaign style ads since rauner took office, those usually end after the election. Those ads have blamed everything that is wrong in this state on Rauner and the sheeple buy it up. 

 

Exactly. Rauner is going to get destroyed either way.

 

 

That's not a given depending on how ugly the whole democratic primary goes and as for "Baby murder" there is that whole Roe vs. Wade thing. Don't vote, it's YOUR right that you are not using. I will say this though, regardless of what party you belong to there are a lot of women who would have some serious things to say about your views as a man on what they should be allowed to do with THEIR bodies.



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Posted 01 December 2017 - 10:26 AM

 

 

<popcorn>  I don't see rauner winning re-election. He isolated too many people that voted for him last election. The push for Ives is proof of that.  The machine controlled media has never stopped blitzing against rauner. The machine marketing money has continuously run anti rauner campaign style ads since rauner took office, those usually end after the election. Those ads have blamed everything that is wrong in this state on Rauner and the sheeple buy it up. 

 

Exactly. Rauner is going to get destroyed either way.

 

 

That's not a given depending on how ugly the whole democratic primary goes and as for "Baby murder" there is that whole Roe vs. Wade thing. Don't vote, it's YOUR right that you are not using. I will say this though, regardless of what party you belong to there are a lot of women who would have some serious things to say about your views as a man on what they should be allowed to do with THEIR bodies.

 

It's not THEIR bodies I am worried, about it's the other bodies they are carrying within their bodies. However even though I feel strongly against abortion, I generally don't hold that against politicians.

The main problem in all American politics is being limited to a 2 party system. I'm happy to see a Libertarian candidate getting on the ballot. I don't know anything about him yet, but competition breeds quality. So I'm happy for that. As of right now I am leaving towards Ives in the Primary. Would I vote for Rauner again? Yes, but I think Ives is better.  I also need to take a serious look at the Libertarian candidates getting on the ballot this coming election.


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Posted 01 December 2017 - 10:28 AM

Ok, you understand the repercussions your "no-vote." Some people don't. Lot's of "no-votes" from people who were "rubbed the wrong way" by Trump. Made them feel like they were making a significant stand. Glad Trump still won.

Works both ways actually.  There was a significant amount of democrats that did the same because of what hitlary did to sanders. I still contend sanders would have won if gotten the nomination, not that I wanted him to, but he had alot more popular support than hillary.


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Posted 01 December 2017 - 10:37 AM

 

Ok, you understand the repercussions your "no-vote." Some people don't. Lot's of "no-votes" from people who were "rubbed the wrong way" by Trump. Made them feel like they were making a significant stand. Glad Trump still won.

Works both ways actually.  There was a significant amount of democrats that did the same because of what hitlary did to sanders. I still contend sanders would have won if gotten the nomination, not that I wanted him to, but he had alot more popular support than hillary.

 

 

Well at least we agree on that. HRC rigged that primary but Sanders is a nutjob and HRC is just plain unlikeable. I'm glad Trump won but if he would stay off of Twitter I think that would go a long way towards his credibility. Every time he Tweets something stupid, the MSM jumps all over it. Donnie, stop Tweeting.



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Posted 01 December 2017 - 04:16 PM

Ok, you understand the repercussions your "no-vote." Some people don't. Lot's of "no-votes" from people who were "rubbed the wrong way" by Trump. Made them feel like they were making a significant stand. Glad Trump still won.

Works both ways actually.  There was a significant amount of democrats that did the same because of what hitlary did to sanders. I still contend sanders would have won if gotten the nomination, not that I wanted him to, but he had alot more popular support than hillary.

Agreed. "No-votes" did happen both ways.




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