Tvandermyde Posted September 24, 2010 at 02:31 AM Share Posted September 24, 2010 at 02:31 AM WE are getting word that the Illinois Supreme Court will annouce if it will take up the challange to the Cook County semi-auto ban next week. Stay tuned and we'll see where this goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted September 24, 2010 at 08:31 AM Share Posted September 24, 2010 at 08:31 AM If the rest of the state doesn't have such a ban, what is so special about Crook County? It's time that tyranny becomes a victim of oppression, not the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Stu Posted September 24, 2010 at 11:22 AM Share Posted September 24, 2010 at 11:22 AM If the rest of the state doesn't have such a ban, what is so special about Crook County? It's time that tyranny becomes a victim of oppression, not the people. Crook County *thinks* they are special and do not have to follow the US Constitution. Most cities in Illinois have home rule. Home rule may be OK for deciding who is the dog catcher or what company collects the garbage. Firearms laws need to be the same statewide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishmo Posted September 24, 2010 at 11:32 AM Share Posted September 24, 2010 at 11:32 AM WE are getting word that the Illinois Supreme Court will annouce if it will take up the challange to the Cook County semi-auto ban next week. Stay tuned and we'll see where this goes.Thanks for the heads up on this Todd, should be very interesting to see how it turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted September 24, 2010 at 02:11 PM Share Posted September 24, 2010 at 02:11 PM WE are getting word that the Illinois Supreme Court will annouce if it will take up the challange to the Cook County semi-auto ban next week. Stay tuned and we'll see where this goes.Thanks for the heads up on this Todd, should be very interesting to see how it turns out. Ish...You stay away from the court room - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted September 24, 2010 at 02:18 PM Share Posted September 24, 2010 at 02:18 PM This must be stopped. As I see it, the big problem with the CC AWB is when they demand the sale of so called AWs be banned in the rest of the state so CC residents can't simply cross the county line to buy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglebob Posted September 24, 2010 at 05:45 PM Share Posted September 24, 2010 at 05:45 PM If the rest of the state doesn't have such a ban, what is so special about Crook County? It's time that tyranny becomes a victim of oppression, not the people. Crook County *thinks* they are special and do not have to follow the US Constitution. Most cities in Illinois have home rule. Home rule may be OK for deciding who is the dog catcher or what company collects the garbage. Firearms laws need to be the same statewide!Actually I think there are a lot more cities who don't have home rule. Though approximately 70% of the people live in home rule communities only about 167 cities are home rule. I agree firearms laws need to be the same statewide, better yet weapons laws, then we wouldn't have the silliness like Loves Park's ordinance banning knives over 1 1/2" long. Also there wouldn't be the possibility of 167 different firearm transportation ordinances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylok Posted September 24, 2010 at 06:34 PM Share Posted September 24, 2010 at 06:34 PM Who are the plantiffs of this case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishmo Posted September 25, 2010 at 12:38 AM Share Posted September 25, 2010 at 12:38 AM WE are getting word that the Illinois Supreme Court will annouce if it will take up the challange to the Cook County semi-auto ban next week. Stay tuned and we'll see where this goes.Thanks for the heads up on this Todd, should be very interesting to see how it turns out. Ish...You stay away from the court room - Roger that GW, especially since I'm going into permanent stand down status at 1800 on the 29th of Sept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma Posted September 25, 2010 at 01:38 PM Share Posted September 25, 2010 at 01:38 PM What if the courts dont hear it? That would be a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federal Farmer Posted September 26, 2010 at 12:41 AM Share Posted September 26, 2010 at 12:41 AM What if the courts dont hear it? That would be a mess. Sounds like the IL Supreme Court is going to hear the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Roark Posted September 26, 2010 at 01:41 AM Share Posted September 26, 2010 at 01:41 AM What if the courts dont hear it? That would be a mess. Sounds like the IL Supreme Court is going to hear the case. Which Constitution will the Illinois Supreme Court like better? The one that says "Subject only the the police power..." or the one that says "... shall not be infringed." ? What's the over-under on this case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted September 26, 2010 at 02:34 AM Share Posted September 26, 2010 at 02:34 AM Who are the plantiffs of this case?Some select ISRA members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Roark Posted September 26, 2010 at 03:06 AM Share Posted September 26, 2010 at 03:06 AM Are there any online links to the case filings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackTripper Posted September 27, 2010 at 07:09 AM Share Posted September 27, 2010 at 07:09 AM Are there any online links to the case filings? I imagine it is a pickup of this case:http://www.state.il.us/court/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2009/1stDistrict/August/1081202.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrat Posted September 28, 2010 at 03:42 AM Share Posted September 28, 2010 at 03:42 AM WE are getting word that the Illinois Supreme Court will annouce if it will take up the challange to the Cook County semi-auto ban next week. I apologize for asking such a rudimentary question, but I am only recently getting up to speed on political issues and want to make sure I understand it (especially since I am a Cook County resident). The semi-auto ban you're referring to is that on "assault" style rifles, correct? I'm definitely aware of this one, but just want to be sure there's no others I didn't know about (especially seeing as I own a number of semi-automatics). Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted September 28, 2010 at 04:28 AM Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 at 04:28 AM it covers more than so called assault weapons. My 11-87 is banned. So are most of my 10/22s. Jack that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federal Farmer Posted September 28, 2010 at 05:42 AM Share Posted September 28, 2010 at 05:42 AM it covers more than so called assault weapons. My 11-87 is banned. So are most of my 10/22s. Jack that is the case. Thanks to home rule (eek, hard to even type that) my 10/22 is perfectly legal in Chicago (with 10rd mags). I don't recall now what Chicago has to say about thumb-hole stocks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted September 28, 2010 at 04:33 PM Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 at 04:33 PM nothing today they will post more orders tommorow around 9am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted September 29, 2010 at 02:52 PM Author Share Posted September 29, 2010 at 02:52 PM nothing yet this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted September 29, 2010 at 04:29 PM Share Posted September 29, 2010 at 04:29 PM WE are getting word that the Illinois Supreme Court will annouce if it will take up the challange to the Cook County semi-auto ban next week. I apologize for asking such a rudimentary question, but I am only recently getting up to speed on political issues and want to make sure I understand it (especially since I am a Cook County resident). The semi-auto ban you're referring to is that on "assault" style rifles, correct? I'm definitely aware of this one, but just want to be sure there's no others I didn't know about (especially seeing as I own a number of semi-automatics). Thanks, It is not a blanket ban of all semi-auto firearms (although even that was tried recently on a non-binding ballot measure, and was defeated by Sigma and Todd, among others). It is a ban on certain semi-auto firearms that have "evil" "scary" features. It basically picks several somewhat-common features, and arbitrarily bans all firearms that possess them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted September 30, 2010 at 01:05 AM Author Share Posted September 30, 2010 at 01:05 AM we're back inthe game..... "In the exercise of this Court's supervisory authority, the Appellate Court, First District, is directed to vacate its Order in Wilson v. Cook County . . . and reconsider the matter in light of McDonald v. City of Chicago [citation] to determine if another result is warranted." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol'Coach Posted September 30, 2010 at 01:20 AM Share Posted September 30, 2010 at 01:20 AM Here we go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted September 30, 2010 at 02:23 AM Share Posted September 30, 2010 at 02:23 AM we're back inthe game..... "In the exercise of this Court's supervisory authority, the Appellate Court, First District, is directed to vacate its Order in Wilson v. Cook County . . . and reconsider the matter in light of McDonald v. City of Chicago [citation] to determine if another result is warranted." So, the Supreme is telling the Appellate court to dump the first decision, and consider the McDonald case when reaching another decision. Will they simply go back and consider all the evidence and testimony already given? Or will there be another court date with additional testimony and court room action? Any wild guess on the time frame for the second decision? A month, a year, this decade? At first blush, it appears that the Supreme is telling the Appellate that it messed up and giving it a chance to make it right without having to have the Supreme officially overturn the decison. More "politics" in our judicial system? AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma Posted September 30, 2010 at 03:06 AM Share Posted September 30, 2010 at 03:06 AM anoterh result warranted? What was the original result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federal Farmer Posted September 30, 2010 at 07:19 PM Share Posted September 30, 2010 at 07:19 PM anoterh result warranted? What was the original result. Wilson lost. So another result would be Wilson wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol'Coach Posted September 30, 2010 at 07:49 PM Share Posted September 30, 2010 at 07:49 PM FF, you do come up with some dandys!! (dandies??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Roark Posted October 1, 2010 at 01:00 AM Share Posted October 1, 2010 at 01:00 AM anoterh result warranted? What was the original result. Wilson lost. So another result would be Wilson wins. Tom Hanks as Todd Stroger. "I'm sorry Wilson !!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonap Posted October 1, 2010 at 09:49 PM Share Posted October 1, 2010 at 09:49 PM Does anyone know of an "Opinion Number" or something like that? It would be interesting to read the entire decision. (Couldn't find anything on the Il Supreme Court site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted October 2, 2010 at 12:38 AM Share Posted October 2, 2010 at 12:38 AM Does anyone know of an "Opinion Number" or something like that? It would be interesting to read the entire decision. (Couldn't find anything on the Il Supreme Court site.) The appellate decision or the supreme order sending it back to the appellate? AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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