Craigcelia Posted February 19, 2018 at 11:52 PM Share Posted February 19, 2018 at 11:52 PM Had some guy call me up, said he knows a guy that we did a private class for which he gave the right name so I don't doubt him - he says he already passed "an online qualification" (He took one of those Virginia CCL online classes). He said he just wants to pay me for the cost of the Illinois class without actually attending and asked if I would provide a certificate for him. He said he didn't have time to sit through 16 hours. Sure buddy, no problem.... Sounded like an older italian guy. I really couldn't believe he asked that. Then after telling him we don't operate that way, he asked if we offer a "fast class". Wow.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hipshot Percussion Posted February 19, 2018 at 11:55 PM Share Posted February 19, 2018 at 11:55 PM It takes all kinds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic6010 Posted February 20, 2018 at 12:05 AM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 12:05 AM Sounds like your typical Chicagoan, its to bad he doesn't work for the government or something were he can actually be useful lol. But yeah that's not worth risking your butt over. Good Call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigcelia Posted February 20, 2018 at 12:09 AM Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 12:09 AM But yeah that's not worth risking your butt over. Good Call.No, Never. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted February 20, 2018 at 12:11 AM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 12:11 AM ISP setup??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richp Posted February 20, 2018 at 12:11 AM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 12:11 AM Hi, I vaguely smell the whiff of an attempted sting. FWIW. Rich Phillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc905 Posted February 20, 2018 at 12:52 AM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 12:52 AM Sounds like your typical Chicagoan, its to bad he doesn't work for the government or something were he can actually be useful lol. But yeah that's not worth risking your butt over. Good Call.Yeah.... I'm thinking he DOES work for the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIV Posted February 20, 2018 at 01:07 AM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 01:07 AM Exactly what does an "old Italian guy" sound like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted February 20, 2018 at 01:09 AM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 01:09 AM Exactly what does an "old Italian guy" sound like? Yea, I resemble that remark ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted February 20, 2018 at 01:17 AM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 01:17 AM Exactly what does an "old Italian guy" sound like? Like Paulie Walnuts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted February 20, 2018 at 01:25 AM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 01:25 AM Exactly what does an "old Italian guy" sound like? https://youtu.be/Yr_ucZEWRUo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman Posted February 20, 2018 at 01:27 AM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 01:27 AM Tell him your "fast class" can be completed in only two days instead of 16 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted February 20, 2018 at 01:39 AM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 01:39 AM Well, it IS Illinois. Corruption is the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilphil Posted February 20, 2018 at 01:41 AM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 01:41 AM Exactly what does an "old Italian guy" sound like? Several of my uncles come to mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaeghl Posted February 20, 2018 at 01:50 AM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 01:50 AM Tell him you offer a short class, just heavy on the legal stuff and to show up at a place with a couple of other students you have lined up..... Who happen to be ISP in civvies....... Let your imagine take it from there. Call it building bridges with the authorities. Personally, I have no tolerance for those that think they can just skate by instead of doing it the right way. Rules are rules, even the ones I don't really agree with. And if it is a sting....well it would give them something to talk about in the squad room the next day while watching themselves on youtube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigcelia Posted February 20, 2018 at 02:08 AM Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 02:08 AM Exactly what does an "old Italian guy" sound like? I'm Italian. I know what Italian sounds like. He definately was the Goombah type! Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted February 20, 2018 at 02:26 AM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 02:26 AM I kinda hope it was a sting and they find the guys who might be willing to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigcelia Posted February 20, 2018 at 02:27 AM Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 02:27 AM ISP setup???It's not a setup. He specifically named the guy I did a class for. This guy was Italian as well. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigcelia Posted February 20, 2018 at 02:30 AM Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 02:30 AM Exactly what does an "old Italian guy" sound like? Yea, I resemble that remark !Now, now... He sounded like my father....of course Lou, you probably could be my father.........J Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDoctor Posted February 20, 2018 at 02:44 AM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 02:44 AM Unfortunately believable. Quick cert or possible sting op.Would not be a surprise.Never risk your professional everything for a quick buck. Never.This goes to all you younger guys. It's not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDW Posted February 20, 2018 at 03:05 AM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 03:05 AM Craig, I actually laughed when I read this. My wife's family is 100% off the boat Italian. The dress code at family parties for her side years ago was leisure suits and lots of gold. These days, it's tee shirts and jogging pants, and yeah, still lots of gold. They're awesome, friendly people. It took them a while to accept my Irish(ness) but they came around. Hope you, Kevin and your family's are all doing well man. Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigcelia Posted February 20, 2018 at 04:45 AM Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 04:45 AM Craig, I actually laughed when I read this. My wife's family is 100% off the boat Italian. The dress code at family parties for her side years ago was leisure suits and lots of gold. These days, it's tee shirts and jogging pants, and yeah, still lots of gold. They're awesome, friendly people. It took them a while to accept my Irish(ness) but they came around. Hope you, Kevin and your family's are all doing well man. Regards JohnThank you John! Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oohrah Posted February 20, 2018 at 02:57 PM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 02:57 PM Not just an IL thing. We had a guy in central Texas a few years ago that was his way of doing business - pay his price, get your signed form to send to the state, no class or range time. He got caught when a guy bought one for himself and his wife, and the wife got nervous. She reported it to DPS, and everyone had their licenses revoked. Never heard the final disposition on the crooked instructor. Another good example of why we need to be diligent and police our own to protect the rights we can exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigcelia Posted February 20, 2018 at 03:03 PM Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 03:03 PM Exactly what does an "old Italian guy" sound like?https://youtu.be/Yr_ucZEWRUo Great clip. I imagined this guy was talking more with his hands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted February 20, 2018 at 09:03 PM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 09:03 PM Exactly what does an "old Italian guy" sound like?Yea, I resemble that remark ! I was going to suggest that CIV give you a call to hear that melodious voice!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumgod Posted February 20, 2018 at 09:58 PM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 09:58 PM Just out of curiosity. Did you recently give the ISP your training roster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangrel Posted February 20, 2018 at 11:20 PM Share Posted February 20, 2018 at 11:20 PM ISP would know the names of folks you trained because your instructor number is on their certificates. Just because he says he was referred by one of your former students and gives you his name doesn't make it so. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted February 21, 2018 at 03:37 AM Share Posted February 21, 2018 at 03:37 AM You garlic eaters have the best stories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geomick Posted February 21, 2018 at 04:03 AM Share Posted February 21, 2018 at 04:03 AM Had some guy call me up, said he knows a guy that we did a private class for which he gave the right name so I don't doubt him - he says he already passed "an online qualification" (He took one of those Virginia CCL online classes). He said he just wants to pay me for the cost of the Illinois class without actually attending and asked if I would provide a certificate for him. He said he didn't have time to sit through 16 hours. Sure buddy, no problem.... Sounded like an older italian guy. I really couldn't believe he asked that. Then after telling him we don't operate that way, he asked if we offer a "fast class". Wow.... Offer him the "fast class" where you pack all 16 hours of content into 15hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds. Sign in to receive credit closes 10 minutes before the start of the first session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigcelia Posted February 21, 2018 at 03:46 PM Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 at 03:46 PM Just out of curiosity. Did you recently give the ISP your training roster?Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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