THE KING Posted March 10, 2019 at 05:10 PM Share Posted March 10, 2019 at 05:10 PM I know this topic has been discussed before and everyone has concerns about carrying on an expired license even though they submitted their renewal. 430 ILCS 66/70 © is the section of the law that stipulates that your license is still valid as long as you submit your application for renewal prior to the expiration date. I renewed my license on 2/4/19 and my license expired on 2/28/19. Today is 3/10/19 and I want to share with you guys and gals what I found out today. This morning I had a buddy of mine who is a LEO call me because he had a gun question. He stopped by and we had a discussion on the gun laws and I was able to answer his question. Then I had a question of my own that alot of you have so I thought I would get an answer and I did. Let me start by saying this. If you are driving and get pulled over, a LEO will run the license plate on your vehicle. The in squad computer comes back with the vehicle information and the registered owner of that vehicle. If you are the owner, your FOID and FCCL will show up in the LEADS system but that is on a different screen from the vehicle information. If you are stopped by a LEO and the above scenario does not apply, the LEO must run your drivers license to get your FOID and FCCL status. My buddy was on duty so I asked him to run my drivers license and he did. Here is what I found out. My FCCL information came up and said I was active. Yes, ACTIVE even though it expired on 2/28/19 and today is 3/10/19. The screen said " Application for renewal submitted" next to that it showed "430 ILCS 66/70 ©". The statute was listed on the screen so the officer knows and can reference the state law if he deems it necessary. I asked if every officer in the state sees the same information and he said YES. So, we now know that the LEADS system is updated with your status and the fact that you submitted your application for renewal. I hope everyone can take a deep breath and feel more at ease. You are good to go. No need to worry anymore whether your legal to carry or not. LEO's do know that your good as long as they run your drivers license. Hope this information helps. KING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted March 10, 2019 at 05:20 PM Share Posted March 10, 2019 at 05:20 PM Good to know, thanks King. I only hope all LEO’s are as familiar. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted March 10, 2019 at 05:27 PM Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 at 05:27 PM Good to know, thanks King. I only hope all LEO’s are as familiar. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkEven if they aren't familiar, it's pretty clear. As long as they run your drivers license, your in the system and showing ACTIVE. One thing that I did not see on the CAD screen was my expiration date. It does not show up. Just your status and that you have submitted a renewal. If a LEO looks at your FCCL and sees that it is expired he won't know that it is still active until he runs your drivers license. At that point, if it was me, I would be asking him to run my drivers license so he knows that your still active per the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yas Posted March 10, 2019 at 05:49 PM Share Posted March 10, 2019 at 05:49 PM Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggun 1 Posted March 10, 2019 at 06:19 PM Share Posted March 10, 2019 at 06:19 PM good information,thanks for posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDUC10 Posted March 10, 2019 at 06:47 PM Share Posted March 10, 2019 at 06:47 PM Good info. Thanks! And I am impressed that the computer systems display some detail beyond valid or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryware Posted March 10, 2019 at 07:06 PM Share Posted March 10, 2019 at 07:06 PM Great information.. Thanks for taking the time to post.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcreek Posted March 10, 2019 at 07:29 PM Share Posted March 10, 2019 at 07:29 PM Unless I am in another state that normally recognizes my IL FCCL but I am STILL WAITING FOR MY NEW CARD and the inspect element still says "under review"! (applied 01/07/2019) Dear ISP-FSB,Do you realize what is happening to the law abiding, responsible gun owners out here? Do you even care? or Are you happy with your departments performance? King,sorry to rant. thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted March 10, 2019 at 07:49 PM Share Posted March 10, 2019 at 07:49 PM Unless I am in another state that normally recognizes my IL FCCL but I am STILL WAITING FOR MY NEW CARD and the inspect element still says "under review"! (applied 01/07/2019) Dear ISP-FSB,Do you realize what is happening to the law abiding, responsible gun owners out here? Do you even care? or Are you happy with your departments performance? King,sorry to rant. thanks for the infoIf LEADS is being updated, Id like to think out of state Nlets members running your card will get the same info, but we dont know for sure yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted March 10, 2019 at 08:04 PM Share Posted March 10, 2019 at 08:04 PM Thanks for posting this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglebob Posted March 10, 2019 at 08:05 PM Share Posted March 10, 2019 at 08:05 PM If you are out of state and a LEO runs your plate will he get the same info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxdpntc Posted March 10, 2019 at 08:14 PM Share Posted March 10, 2019 at 08:14 PM Thanks for the post. Good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted March 10, 2019 at 08:17 PM Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 at 08:17 PM If you are out of state and a LEO runs your plate will he get the same info?That I do not know. Read post #9 by InterestedBystander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huski92 Posted March 11, 2019 at 12:58 AM Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 12:58 AM That you! Great information and good to know. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weed Posted March 11, 2019 at 02:22 AM Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 02:22 AM As long as Il. Renewal is ok and I have licenses from Fl. and Ut. I should be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted March 11, 2019 at 02:32 AM Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 02:32 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted March 11, 2019 at 10:52 AM Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 10:52 AM Excellent info King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird76Mojo Posted March 11, 2019 at 12:04 PM Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 12:04 PM I learned this from listening to the police scanner when the officer and the dispatcher talk during traffic stops. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted March 11, 2019 at 12:08 PM Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 12:08 PM Thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbrew Posted March 12, 2019 at 03:21 AM Share Posted March 12, 2019 at 03:21 AM Interesting question about validity while carrying in a reciprocal state. Or, better said, a state that honors the Illinois permit. 430 ILCS 66/70 may state that your applied for renewal but expired permit is still valid, but I’d bet the out of state LEO won’t know that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCD Posted March 15, 2019 at 04:30 AM Share Posted March 15, 2019 at 04:30 AM Thanks for this post. I was curious, but wasn't willing to run my own DL or CCL number to risk "unauthorized use of LEADS" to see when I already knew that by statute I was still legal to carry. If you are out of state and a LEO runs your plate will he get the same info? Yes. Any outside agency running a successful query through LEADS will get back the same information as an agency within Illinois. They get the same information from SOS when running a license plate, a VIN, an ID, or a DL...same goes for a CCL (especially if attached to a DL). Also, to that end, any agency (outside or inside of Illinois) running your license plate, if it has your DL number connected to the registration will get back:The vehicle registration.Your DL status, which would in turn return:Your FOID status (I believe...it's been a while).Your CCL status. If you get pulled over (provided your DL number is part of the registration file) and there's a delay before the officer gets out of the squad car, chances are he/she got your plate info back & knows you have a CCL by the time he/she makes contact with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obiejuan Posted March 30, 2019 at 04:54 PM Share Posted March 30, 2019 at 04:54 PM Mine is still under reviewRenewed 3/1/19Expired 3/20/19Can I still carry or does it have to say active?I drive to the city every day for work. Sometimes I'm in the most dangerous part of the city and the Chicago police are so anti gun that they will react differently, like putting Big Oboe in cuffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDUC10 Posted March 30, 2019 at 08:22 PM Share Posted March 30, 2019 at 08:22 PM Mine is still under reviewRenewed 3/1/19Expired 3/20/19Can I still carry or does it have to say active?I drive to the city every day for work. Sometimes I'm in the most dangerous part of the city and the Chicago police are so anti gun that they will react differently, like putting Big Oboe in cuffs. You renewed before your expiration date. Your CCL is still valid during the entire renewal process, status doesn't matter, as long as you are indeed CCL eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted March 30, 2019 at 11:09 PM Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 at 11:09 PM Mine is still under reviewRenewed 3/1/19Expired 3/20/19Can I still carry or does it have to say active?I drive to the city every day for work. Sometimes I'm in the most dangerous part of the city and the Chicago police are so anti gun that they will react differently, like putting Big Oboe in cuffs.You are good to go. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted April 1, 2019 at 03:10 AM Share Posted April 1, 2019 at 03:10 AM That's good to know. I submitted mine a month ago and I'm still "under review". My expiration date is April 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted April 1, 2019 at 12:06 PM Share Posted April 1, 2019 at 12:06 PM My expiration date was February 27th, I applied for renewal on February 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymond963 Posted April 1, 2019 at 12:12 PM Share Posted April 1, 2019 at 12:12 PM Mine expired March 22nd and I applied March 19th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted April 1, 2019 at 12:47 PM Share Posted April 1, 2019 at 12:47 PM Mine is still under reviewRenewed 3/1/19Expired 3/20/19Can I still carry or does it have to say active?I drive to the city every day for work. Sometimes I'm in the most dangerous part of the city and the Chicago police are so anti gun that they will react differently, like putting Big Oboe in cuffs. You renewed before your expiration date. Your CCL is still valid during the entire renewal process, status doesn't matter, as long as you are indeed CCL eligible. Correct. You are legal to carry in that situation. However, law enforcement interaction may vary... (e.g. It is possible that an anti-gun or ill-informed police officer may indeed arrest you and / or confiscate your firearm. We haven't seen it yet, but it is possible.) Hopefully police officers are being trained as to the law, but time will tell how different officers react... (IANAL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gserr02 Posted April 7, 2019 at 10:37 PM Share Posted April 7, 2019 at 10:37 PM Hey guys, new to the forum! So pretty much we are allowed to carry with an expired license assuming you renewed or submitted your application before expiration date then, correct? Sorry if this has been answered already... I’m still waiting on my card it’s still under review and my permit expired already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted April 7, 2019 at 10:45 PM Share Posted April 7, 2019 at 10:45 PM As long as you renewed BEFORE the expire date, you u should be good to go!Please read this thread entirely as it does talk about keeping copies of forms and statutes on your person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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