Tvandermyde Posted August 5, 2013 at 02:11 PM Share Posted August 5, 2013 at 02:11 PM my bet is a bunch of gun shop are going to invest in the finger print machines and do one shop stops for carry permits applications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdpsc Posted August 5, 2013 at 04:46 PM Share Posted August 5, 2013 at 04:46 PM my bet is a bunch of gun shop are going to invest in the finger print machines and do one shop stops for carry permits applications And for the most part, they will rue the day they made that decision. The machines are expensive ($10,000 to $20,000 depending on make, model, accessories, etc...). The worst part is that the licensing is a nightmare and the administrative rules are worse. I hold several professional licenses from IDFPR and I didn't have to use a lawyer to help with the application process for any of them except for the Fingerprint Vendor license. Even after all of that nonsense, it's not very profitable at all when you add in the insurance, training, maintenance agreements, supplies and administration. I have projected that it will take me until 2019 to break even on that venture. Worst business decision I ever made... Gun shops would be wise to find a vendor and partner with them to provide on-site live scan fingerprinting on certain days/times, or discounted fingerprinting at the vendor's regular location(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie Posted August 6, 2013 at 02:23 AM Share Posted August 6, 2013 at 02:23 AM I got electronically fingerprinted by Customs & Border Protection a few months back as part of the background investigation for my customs broker license. If CBP has my prints on file, I'm not going to lose sleep about the ISP having them. Glad to see my local PD has the electronic fingerprint capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshipley92 Posted August 6, 2013 at 02:42 AM Share Posted August 6, 2013 at 02:42 AM My local Sheriff's Office has the livescan, so I'm good there. Not sure what they charge but I'll call and find out tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt-45 Posted August 6, 2013 at 02:55 AM Share Posted August 6, 2013 at 02:55 AM my sheriff said they can't use there live scan cause it's not for the public uses. so i guess i won't get mine done. O'well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted August 6, 2013 at 02:57 AM Share Posted August 6, 2013 at 02:57 AM After waiting 5.2 million years what's another 30 days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt-45 Posted August 6, 2013 at 03:03 AM Share Posted August 6, 2013 at 03:03 AM After waiting 5.2 million years what's another 30 days?yep cause your not going to get your cc on time any way. why not 30 more days and save 30-60 dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BixBix78 Posted August 6, 2013 at 03:06 AM Share Posted August 6, 2013 at 03:06 AM Odds the additional 30 turns into additional 90 days? If just 30 days I won't get mine done either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDave6 Posted August 6, 2013 at 03:07 AM Share Posted August 6, 2013 at 03:07 AM my sheriff said they can't use there live scan cause it's not for the public uses. so i guess i won't get mine done. O'wellRemind your Sheriff that the live scan machine was paid for with your tax dollars and it should be available to the public.If he doesn't like that answer maybe it's time for a new sheriff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted August 6, 2013 at 03:09 AM Share Posted August 6, 2013 at 03:09 AM my sheriff said they can't use there live scan cause it's not for the public uses. so i guess i won't get mine done. O'well Not for public uses? Not for the public that paid for the equipment? What better use (in addition to processing detainees) could there be than keeping the citizenry safe by making sure that no prohibited persons are issued CCW permits? Easy to tell that your sheriff is a bureaucrat at heart. I live in Chicago - no way will all that expensive equipment they bought for the CFP will be used to make life easier on citizens seeking their CCW permits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
really?_ILivehere Posted August 6, 2013 at 03:27 AM Share Posted August 6, 2013 at 03:27 AM After waiting 5.2 million years what's another 30 days? I agree! My prints won't do them any good anyway, no reason to help build the goobermint's database! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt-45 Posted August 6, 2013 at 03:37 AM Share Posted August 6, 2013 at 03:37 AM After waiting 5.2 million years what's another 30 days? I agree! My prints won't do them any good anyway, no reason to help build the goobermint's database!yea and you will save money doing just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdpsc Posted August 6, 2013 at 03:41 AM Share Posted August 6, 2013 at 03:41 AM my sheriff said they can't use there live scan cause it's not for the public uses. so i guess i won't get mine done. O'well It's probably within the jail. Constantly bringing people into the jail for non-arrest fingerprints would be a pain in the butt for the jailers and a potential security issue. Plus they would have to update their software and go through the licensing process to do non-arrest fingerprints for profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshipley92 Posted August 6, 2013 at 05:11 AM Share Posted August 6, 2013 at 05:11 AM I know the Sheriff's dept here used to do them. I got mine for work done there 8 years ago. Just cards but they did it for free if I remember correctly. I'm not sure about the livescan although I do know they have the machine. I'll see what I can find out tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB Posted August 7, 2013 at 10:55 PM Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 at 10:55 PM Question on Florida CCW. Will they take an inked card or is it live scan only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipedoc Posted August 7, 2013 at 10:59 PM Share Posted August 7, 2013 at 10:59 PM Florida will take an inked card but it has to be their card. They will send them to you for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB Posted August 7, 2013 at 11:00 PM Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 at 11:00 PM Thanks Pipedoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipedoc Posted August 7, 2013 at 11:04 PM Share Posted August 7, 2013 at 11:04 PM I dont have a link but I think there is one on the Get a License from Another State thread on this forum. They sent mine out right away too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted August 8, 2013 at 12:38 AM Share Posted August 8, 2013 at 12:38 AM Florida will take an inked card but it has to be their card. They will send them to you for free. Florida will NOT take electronic fingerprints from out of state - must be inked for non-residents unless you apply while physically in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB Posted August 8, 2013 at 01:06 AM Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 at 01:06 AM Thanks all. I just ordered a couple of fingerprint cards online. Indigo, I thought that might be the case. I'm hoping my local PD still does ink prints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted August 8, 2013 at 12:19 PM Share Posted August 8, 2013 at 12:19 PM If you are up north, Niles PD does ink for $15 - by appointment only, limited hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted August 8, 2013 at 10:12 PM Share Posted August 8, 2013 at 10:12 PM I'm going to work for a company that requires fingerprinting and background checks for all employees and consultants. Is there a way I can use these fingerprints for my IL CCP ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flw Posted August 8, 2013 at 10:42 PM Share Posted August 8, 2013 at 10:42 PM After waiting 5.2 million years what's another 30 days? I was going to say something along those very same lines. After many decades of ineffective government in our state, I have come to only expect ineffectiveness and excuses. Not letting me have, what was always mine and continuing to not keep up with their responsibilities. I have come to expect nothing good from our state government. Why should I expect positive change after what we have witnessed in this state for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB Posted August 9, 2013 at 01:23 AM Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 at 01:23 AM If you are up north, Niles PD does ink for $15 - by appointment only, limited hours. I'm in St. Charles. I'm taking the FL class on the 17th at GAT so I'll see what they have to say as well. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfd13 Posted August 9, 2013 at 05:27 AM Share Posted August 9, 2013 at 05:27 AM Inked cards for FL are supposed to be done at a law enforcement agency. DuPage Sheriff's office will do inked cards free to residents of unincorporated DuPage County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfd13 Posted August 9, 2013 at 05:30 AM Share Posted August 9, 2013 at 05:30 AM I'm going to work for a company that requires fingerprinting and background checks for all employees and consultants. Is there a way I can use these fingerprints for my IL CCP ? No. New Live Scan prints have to be submitted each time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted August 9, 2013 at 12:56 PM Share Posted August 9, 2013 at 12:56 PM I'm going to work for a company that requires fingerprinting and background checks for all employees and consultants. Is there a way I can use these fingerprints for my IL CCP ? No. New Live Scan prints have to be submitted each time.Doesn't matter where or when the electronic (or ink) prints are done. They're not like your first aid certificate, which tells whoever needs to know that you know how to do first aid. Fingerprints are done to determine that you are who you claim to be, for the purpose of the whatever identifying procedure you are going through. Security clearance, CCW, professional license, whatever. Just like the police department will take new prints every time you are arrested to confirm identity, so will any licensing authority. If you submit previously taken prints, how do they know they are yours? Just like that little cup you have to fill while someone watches, a new one every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted August 9, 2013 at 01:07 PM Share Posted August 9, 2013 at 01:07 PM How did we get through this process of getting concealed carry passed in Illinois without the antis getting DNA testing thrown into the mix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted August 9, 2013 at 01:14 PM Share Posted August 9, 2013 at 01:14 PM I got lucky and they didn't think of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domin8 Posted August 9, 2013 at 01:20 PM Share Posted August 9, 2013 at 01:20 PM Lol. People need to realize what Illinois passed for CC really isn't that bad. Other states have it worse. Is it prefect? No. It can definitely be improved upon. For starters, it's not May Issue. Right now the big objective is trying to get the masses comfortable with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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