mauserme Posted November 15, 2017 at 06:18 PM Share Posted November 15, 2017 at 06:18 PM http://thehill.com/homenews/house/360423-gun-reformers-search-for-the-next-bump-stock Gun reformers search for the next bump stock BY MIKE LILLIS - 11/15/17 06:46 AM EST On Wednesday, the ... group founded by former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) will release a report detailing nine products all commercially available under current federal law the advocates say are designed specifically to circumvent long-established gun checks and therefore pose a threat to public safety. The products singled out by the group are a combination of obscure accessories and military-style firearms that, like bump stocks, are hardly household names. They include binary triggers, which modify firearms so one round is fired with the pull of the trigger, and another upon the triggers release; trigger cranks, which allow shooters to fire more rapidly with the turn of a handle; and incendiary rounds, which ignite when they hit a target. The list also features modern AR- and AK-style pistols, ... and .50-caliber rifles, ... Pay attention to how they show .50 BMG in item 7, followed by: Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound. If any other firearm were built with such a device, it would be subject to the NFA as a silencer. But since this device is designed to suppress the sound of something that is exempt from federal firearms laws, it is not considered a silencer and not subject to the NFA. In fact, it is not subject to any laws at all and can be bought online. The report is attached. and is also available at the link in the first quote. Giffords-Lethal-and-Legal.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted November 15, 2017 at 06:37 PM Share Posted November 15, 2017 at 06:37 PM Just trying to keep chipping away.. I've said before, I'd have more respect for them if they were completely honest and admitted they just want all guns banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokehouse Posted November 15, 2017 at 07:11 PM Share Posted November 15, 2017 at 07:11 PM Just trying to keep chipping away.. I've said before, I'd have more respect for them if they were completely honest and admitted they just want all guns banned. This...I'm so freaking sick of them saying "this ban bla, bla, bla, while protecting your second amendment rights" or using garbage terms like "common sense gun laws"... Just come out and say it...you despise firearms, you despise us owning them, you want them banned in any way you can grease through the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX63 Posted November 15, 2017 at 08:30 PM Share Posted November 15, 2017 at 08:30 PM Just wondering what is in the water supply these days that is making folks just flip a nut and start loading up and shooting people. Random shootings with little explanation just about every week. You'd think there was a purge going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkroenlein Posted November 15, 2017 at 08:39 PM Share Posted November 15, 2017 at 08:39 PM Unpossible. We've been reasonable. We've kept our defensive guns hidden. We've criticized devices that make guns shoot too fast. We get our background checks. We pay for our privileges. We displayed all the attributes of common sense. There's no way now the antis could move on anything so innocuous as a purpose built single shot hunting implement. I can't believe it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted November 15, 2017 at 08:46 PM Share Posted November 15, 2017 at 08:46 PM There's no way now the antis could move on anything so innocuous as a purpose built single shot hunting implement. I can't believe itWatch them do it. In court they'll argue that these aren't a core right under the 2A because the 2A isn't about hunting. Then later, in other cases, they'll claim "assault weapons" can be banned because the 2A is about protecting hunting rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikfrd8 Posted November 15, 2017 at 10:48 PM Share Posted November 15, 2017 at 10:48 PM Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound. I must have a defective one. Mine is loud as heck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted November 16, 2017 at 01:27 AM Share Posted November 16, 2017 at 01:27 AM Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound. I must have a defective one. Mine is loud as heck.WHAT built-in device? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted November 16, 2017 at 01:45 AM Share Posted November 16, 2017 at 01:45 AM Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound. I must have a defective one. Mine is loud as heck.WHAT built-in device? This one .... > https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2017/9/19/silencerco-announces-maxim-50-suppressed-muzzleloader/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted November 16, 2017 at 04:00 AM Share Posted November 16, 2017 at 04:00 AM Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound.I must have a defective one. Mine is loud as heck.WHAT built-in device? This one .... > https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2017/9/19/silencerco-announces-maxim-50-suppressed-muzzleloader/Which was originally claimed legal in all 50 states but no longer. Sales have been stopped in IL and a few others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted November 16, 2017 at 11:07 AM Share Posted November 16, 2017 at 11:07 AM I bet that thing still has a report louder than an unmuffled 9mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted November 16, 2017 at 11:41 AM Share Posted November 16, 2017 at 11:41 AM Great, now I'm going to have to hide my muzzle loaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadyRunner Posted November 16, 2017 at 12:58 PM Share Posted November 16, 2017 at 12:58 PM Looks like a shopping list.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted November 16, 2017 at 01:51 PM Share Posted November 16, 2017 at 01:51 PM Looks like a shopping list....Great observation. Just as Obama and Clinton could set sales on fire, it sure would be a lesson to these groups to stop advertising their targets if the awareness and threat of scarcity kickstarted sales here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted November 16, 2017 at 04:18 PM Share Posted November 16, 2017 at 04:18 PM Just trying to keep chipping away.. I've said before, I'd have more respect for them if they were completely honest and admitted they just want all guns banned. This...I'm so freaking sick of them saying "this ban bla, bla, bla, while protecting your second amendment rights" or using garbage terms like "common sense gun laws"... Just come out and say it...you despise firearms, you despise us owning them, you want them banned in any way you can grease through the system. They can't get any support if they tell the truth. So they continue to lie and chip away at our rights a little at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted November 16, 2017 at 05:17 PM Share Posted November 16, 2017 at 05:17 PM Just trying to keep chipping away.. I've said before, I'd have more respect for them if they were completely honest and admitted they just want all guns banned. This...I'm so freaking sick of them saying "this ban bla, bla, bla, while protecting your second amendment rights" or using garbage terms like "common sense gun laws"... Just come out and say it...you despise firearms, you despise us owning them, you want them banned in any way you can grease through the system. They can't get any support if they tell the truth. So they continue to lie and chip away at our rights a little at a time.They want us to the point where, if you've even had contact with police, you're barred from owning a gun. Then to get to the point that if you have ever been accused of anything, falsely or not, then you're barred for life. ATF handing out waivers for well-connected people. And with all of these brainwashed idiots being pumped out by diploma mills errr prestigious universities (like Stanford, where a guy wrote "black lives matter" 100 times in his application essay and got in), we'll have some seriously messed up in the head judges and lawyers who will call barring speeders from owning a gun a "reasonable" restriction. Proof positive that our institutions of higher education (and every other institution) have been infiltrated by commies, just like they promised they would. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted December 1, 2017 at 06:03 PM Share Posted December 1, 2017 at 06:03 PM How many people were killed with muzzle-loaders in the last 20 years? How many people were killed with any .50 cal in the last 20 years? Oh, none? We should totally ban them, then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vern Posted December 1, 2017 at 07:12 PM Share Posted December 1, 2017 at 07:12 PM Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound.I must have a defective one. Mine is loud as heck.Mine too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted December 1, 2017 at 08:00 PM Share Posted December 1, 2017 at 08:00 PM Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound. I must have a defective one. Mine is loud as heck.WHAT built-in device? This one .... > https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2017/9/19/silencerco-announces-maxim-50-suppressed-muzzleloader/ And, of course, these "educated" boobs think this "silenced" muzzleloader has the report of a mouse fart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianj - now in Kansas Posted December 13, 2017 at 09:12 PM Share Posted December 13, 2017 at 09:12 PM ..How many people were killed with any .50 cal in the last 20 years? I expect that lots of people have. To be fair, they were ISIS and Al Quaeda in Iraq and Afghanistan. Ma Deuce has a mean rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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