Suing over survivor trauma

[mikew]

https://wbbm780.radio.com/articles/suit-against-illinois-gun-violence-disabling-children

 

CHICAGO (WBBM NEWSRADIO) -- The families of gun violence victims are suing the Illinois State Police and Gov. Bruce Rauner for failing to protect children from the effects of living in communities under siege.

 

 

[Flynn]

So, in essence, they are suing the ISP and Rauner for not arresting their locally elected politicians?

[Scipio24]

...smh...unbelievable.

[InterestedBystander]

...The class-action lawsuit calls for more restrictions on gun sales. Its filed on behalf of three families living in violence-plagued neighborhoods....

 

...The suit wants the state to crack down on illegal firearms sales especially in racially and economically isolated neighborhoods in the city that are awash in gun violence.

 

In addition to stepped-up background checks and video-recording of sales, the lawsuit seeks to make it more difficult for people to buy guns if any firearms they previously purchased were used in a crime. And it seeks to have firearm owners identification cards physically seized when they have been suspended or revoked....

[Euler]

Warren v. District of Columbia (1981): District of Columbia Court of Appeals rules that the police do not owe a specific duty to provide police services to citizens

 

DeShaney v. Winnebago County (1989): US Supreme Court rules that government social service workers are not required to protect children from their parents

 

Castle Rock v. Gonzales (2005): US Supreme Court rules that the police do not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm

[ilphil]

Warren v. District of Columbia (1981): District of Columbia Court of Appeals rules that the police do not owe a specific duty to provide police services to citizens

 

DeShaney v. Winnebago County (1989): US Supreme Court rules that government social service workers are not required to protect children from their parents

 

Castle Rock v. Gonzales (2005): US Supreme Court rules that the police do not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm

Not that any of that will matter to a political hack Cook County judge.

[C0untZer0]

Call in the United Nations !

[Euler]

Not that any of that will matter to a political hack Cook County judge.

It'll matter if it gets appealed at the Federal level. Then again, maybe it's time for another case that ratifies that the government is not responsible for stopping people who are not criminals from becoming criminals. The invocation of Americans with Disabilities Act is a new approach, considering how it's been warped into unrecognizable shape since its passage. I know a guy whose quadriplegic daughter was one of the people who testified in committee for its passage. That's whom it's supposed to help, not people who claim their heroin addiction is a disability, so they deserve SSI payments.

 

Also, with a little thought, unless they're suing Rauner personally (and I believe he's indemnified by office), to sue the state they'd have to sue Lisa Madigan.

 

IANAL

[Flynn]

.....to sue the state they'd have to sue Lisa Madigan.

 

 

Yeah, why is the person responsible for enforcing the laws and prosecution statewide not included, hmm......

 

Albeit is could be the biased media spinning the story and failing to report all parties listed.

[C0untZer0]

Why not sue the democratic lawmakers whose policies have turned America's inner cities into perpetual slums of unmitigated chaos and violence?

 

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/252945/david-horowitz-lefts-destruction-inner-city-frontpagemagcom

[TRJ]

Would it be possible, even if just for the headline, to counter sue the plaintiff and add the other parties more directly responsible for the violence itself, and the lax enforcement and interpretations of the law?

[mic6010]

Its probably just grandstanding to make sure the dealer licensing bill gets passed. Look at these poor people that are suffering, now we must pass more horrible laws that won't do anything except hurt legal businesses and legal gun owners.

[luckydawg13]

Did they take into account the potential loss of income for dealing l mean sales revenue

[soylentgreen]

It's all about the money. Nobody cares about victims of "gun violence".

[Jeffrey]

Can judges get sued for releasing a lifelong criminal back into general population after serving 1% of his time given only to break the law again? IMO, this is the biggest fault outside of Ms. Foxxx not even putting the same type of criminal in front of a judge to begin with.

[billzfx4]

So they are suing the same police that they are protesting against, don't want in their neighborhoods and flatly refuse to talk to or help in any way??

[Euler]

So they are suing the same police that they are protesting against, don't want in their neighborhoods and flatly refuse to talk to or help in any way??

I interpret it as suing the police division that issues licenses to people without criminal records, etc., to own and carry firearms. If they want to say that issuing licenses is what causes "gun violence," then what makes people without licenses commit violence? Also, if the ISP were to revoke the license of a person who somehow became a criminal because of his license, would he become law-abiding again?

[Xwing]

Of course. The marxists sue Rauner in order to attack lawful gun owners and give Kim Foxx a pass for letting all the gangbangers back on the street with a mere slap on the wrist. Hmm, I wonder if lawful gun owners or recidivist gangbangers are more at fault for the violence... It's a political dog & pony show, and nothing but...

[ChicagoRonin70]

I'm wondering why, these being children in Chicago neighborhoods, that they aren't suing Rahm and the CPD, who are directly responsible for law enforcement of criminal use of firearms in their neighborhoods?

[kevinmcc]

You would think they would sue Chicago and Cook County, State Police and Governor is a lot more of reach from the problem.

[markthesignguy]

This is to buttress the reanimation of the SB337 Dealer Licensing Bill and dumping it on Rauner's desk at a strategic time.

 

AS of this posting, SB337 is still sitting stalled with the Motion to Reconsider.

 

Senate democrats including John Cullerton and Don Harmon are probably waiting for some tragedy to twist to their advantage, and then just before the election

dump it on Rauner's desk with much ceremony and wailing.

 

It's already within 60 days of the election, which I was watching for.

It would have to have been vetoed before the 60 days on his desk are up or it passes by default.

I expected them to dump SB337 on Rauner's desk about 63 days before the election,

then be prepared to roast Rauner on the veto, or waiting on his inaction until 3 days before the election

then unleash a wave of junk in the media.

 

So now it's down to the tragedy scenario. Or maybe this lawsuit.

[Euler]

This is to buttress the reanimation of the SB337 Dealer Licensing Bill and dumping it on Rauner's desk at a strategic time.

 

AS of this posting, SB337 is still sitting stalled with the Motion to Reconsider.

 

Senate democrats including John Cullerton and Don Harmon are probably waiting for some tragedy to twist to their advantage, and then just before the election dump it on Rauner's desk with much ceremony and wailing.

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They can't dump it on Rauner's desk before the election, because the Senate doesn't return to session until a week after the election.

[markthesignguy]

 

This is to buttress the reanimation of the SB337 Dealer Licensing Bill and dumping it on Rauner's desk at a strategic time.

 

AS of this posting, SB337 is still sitting stalled with the Motion to Reconsider.

 

Senate democrats including John Cullerton and Don Harmon are probably waiting for some tragedy to twist to their advantage, and then just before the election dump it on Rauner's desk with much ceremony and wailing.

...

They can't dump it on Rauner's desk before the election, because the Senate doesn't return to session until a week after the election.

 

 

Don't need a session, just drop the motion to reconsider.

[C0untZer0]

[markthesignguy]

Saw through their trick bag as soon as they did the motion to reconsider.

 

THEIR timing as to when SB337 is dumped in Rauner's lap.

[BobPistol]

They should sue the politicians. In their natural persons, not just their official capacities.

[junglebob]

Can judges get sued for releasing a lifelong criminal back into general population after serving 1% of his time given only to break the law again? IMO, this is the biggest fault outside of Ms. Foxxx not even putting the same type of criminal in front of a judge to begin with.

There should be a campaign to not retain judthese ges that give criminals a slap on the wrist. Judges normally are retained unless they do an extremely bad job and it gets a lot of press attention. There will probably be some judges names on the ballot in Cook County to vote yes or no on retaining, this November.