Tvandermyde Posted February 23, 2018 at 11:15 PM Share Posted February 23, 2018 at 11:15 PM So by now word is leaking out about the Speakers plan to put a bunch of votes on the Board to play games with gun control bills. I saw Mauser's mention of potential witness slips. I coul dbe wrong, but I doubt we will get that chance. If you remember the carry fight and how Madigan put all those floof amendments up on vote after vote, this is what I think will come down. I don't think we are going to go to comittee and be heard. They may just pop out a shell bill and then drop floor amendments straight to the floor. it light of Florida, my bet is Madigan is looking to change the subject from his sexual harrasment issues he has bungled inthe House, his campaign committees and with the inspector general, and would really like to change the new stories to something else. hang on. its gonna get rough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted February 23, 2018 at 11:19 PM Share Posted February 23, 2018 at 11:19 PM It will be all hands on deck, folks! Be ready by the phones to make those calls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted February 23, 2018 at 11:21 PM Share Posted February 23, 2018 at 11:21 PM Typical Liberal playbook: never let a crisis go to waste. It allows you to,do things you ordinarily couldnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk5 Posted February 23, 2018 at 11:24 PM Share Posted February 23, 2018 at 11:24 PM It will be all hands on deck, folks! Be ready by the phones to make those calls!Will do. Thanks for all you guys do.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 23, 2018 at 11:36 PM Share Posted February 23, 2018 at 11:36 PM Nothing would surprise me. We'll fight the known threats now and tackle the new ones as they come up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45 whit Posted February 23, 2018 at 11:59 PM Share Posted February 23, 2018 at 11:59 PM At the ready here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDW Posted February 24, 2018 at 04:35 AM Share Posted February 24, 2018 at 04:35 AM Thanks a million, Todd. I am not on FacePlant and I'd like to donate to your group, please pm me instructions on how to do so. Thanks MollyB and Mauser too. I'm standing by next week for further word on actions i need to be involved in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriots & Tyrants Posted February 24, 2018 at 06:16 AM Share Posted February 24, 2018 at 06:16 AM Todd what is your take on the press release; it sounds to me like Madigan is directly behind the restraining order and dealer licensing bills; but not the AWB you got any insight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted February 24, 2018 at 02:26 PM Share Posted February 24, 2018 at 02:26 PM If he does this then we must do our very best to change the subject back and amplify our disgust over his sexual harassment charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted February 24, 2018 at 04:40 PM Share Posted February 24, 2018 at 04:40 PM Thanks a million, Todd. I am not on FacePlant and I'd like to donate to your group, please pm me instructions on how to do so. Thanks MollyB and Mauser too. I'm standing by next week for further word on actions i need to be involved in. FFLS ILThe Federal Firearms Licensees of Illinois, (FFL-IL) a non-profit trade group for Federally Licensed Firearms dealers in Illinois Donate link on web page <--- Seems most reliable to mehttps://fflil.org/donate/ Donate link on mobile FB page but do not have account and it asks to LogInhttps://m.facebook.com/pages/call_to_action/confirm/?cta_id=1807981552569314&ref=page_internal&__tn__=%2CJ ...although "regular www" FB page redirects to a non FB fundrasing PayPal page initially but now redirects back for me https://www.facebook.com/FFLIllinois/https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=Yd_ULzuhygXlp9zJwukfegTGhomn0EE7xiS-ZSbduSlXLheDsILkNBSWL1EnP6GTHQMIl0&country.x=US&locale.x=US IllinoisCarryhttp://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?app=subscriptions ISRAhttp://www.isra.org/Participate/YourMembership/JointheISRA.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDW Posted February 24, 2018 at 05:09 PM Share Posted February 24, 2018 at 05:09 PM Thanks a million, Todd. I am not on FacePlant and I'd like to donate to your group, please pm me instructions on how to do so. Thanks MollyB and Mauser too. I'm standing by next week for further word on actions i need to be involved in.FFLS ILThe Federal Firearms Licensees of Illinois, (FFL-IL) a non-profit trade group for Federally Licensed Firearms dealers in Illinois Donate link on web pagehttps://fflil.org/donate/ Donate link on mobile FB page but do not have account and it asks to LogInhttps://m.facebook.com/pages/call_to_action/confirm/?cta_id=1807981552569314&ref=page_internal&__tn__=%2CJ ...although "regular www" FB page redirects to a non FB fundrasing PayPal page https://www.facebook.com/FFLIllinois/https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=Yd_ULzuhygXlp9zJwukfegTGhomn0EE7xiS-ZSbduSlXLheDsILkNBSWL1EnP6GTHQMIl0&country.x=US&locale.x=US IllinoisCarryhttp://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?app=subscriptions ISRAhttp://www.isra.org/Participate/YourMembership/JointheISRA.aspx Thanks IB, I just donated to FFLIllinois via Paypal. Appreciate the help. I support IC as well. I feel very fortunate as a law abiding firearms owner to have these fine people representing us down in Springfield. Have a nice weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted February 24, 2018 at 05:53 PM Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 at 05:53 PM guys & gals I'm not sure where this is going to go. But word is swirling that there will be more sexual harrasment stuff coming out of the Speakers organization with word of another ex staffer coming forward and another claim of nothing being done Some think this is the perfect cover to change the talk from about Madigan and his failure to handle these and other cases to shifting the talk about guns with the national debate going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted February 24, 2018 at 07:24 PM Share Posted February 24, 2018 at 07:24 PM If he pulls any gun stuff we should all spread the word. Our silence can be bought, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriots & Tyrants Posted February 24, 2018 at 10:31 PM Share Posted February 24, 2018 at 10:31 PM guys & gals I'm not sure where this is going to go. But word is swirling that there will be more sexual harrasment stuff coming out of the Speakers organization with word of another ex staffer coming forward and another claim of nothing being done Some think this is the perfect cover to change the talk from about Madigan and his failure to handle these and other cases to shifting the talk about guns with the national debate going on. Todd; keep up the good word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aczshooter Posted February 24, 2018 at 11:27 PM Share Posted February 24, 2018 at 11:27 PM just imagine if all this anti legislation dosent have the votes, and mike is forced to resign due to his past...ill take the wife out for a surf and turf dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted February 25, 2018 at 12:23 AM Share Posted February 25, 2018 at 12:23 AM guys & gals I'm not sure where this is going to go. But word is swirling that there will be more sexual harrasment stuff coming out of the Speakers organization with word of another ex staffer coming forward and another claim of nothing being done Some think this is the perfect cover to change the talk from about Madigan and his failure to handle these and other cases to shifting the talk about guns with the national debate going on. He is definitely in the deflect attention from his own problems mode. I think he’s looking to hide his problems and not not let a crisis go to waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith44 Posted February 25, 2018 at 02:03 AM Share Posted February 25, 2018 at 02:03 AM Donation performed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Porkchop Posted February 25, 2018 at 03:49 AM Share Posted February 25, 2018 at 03:49 AM So with all these AWBs, dealer licensing bill, and general anti 2a stuff. Has anyone talked to RRA or SA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted February 25, 2018 at 05:09 AM Share Posted February 25, 2018 at 05:09 AM Where's the 2AF? Don't they have lobbyists or are they just the lawsuit guys?What about GOA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted February 25, 2018 at 08:59 AM Share Posted February 25, 2018 at 08:59 AM I love SAF but my impression of them is that they're mainly in the courthouse - not roaming the halls of state capitals, and my impression of GOA is that they're focused mostly (not entirely) on national Second Amendment issues, and they're very focused on the calling out the anti-gun media for their biased advocacy. I don't see GOA being so great at walking the halls of state capitals and conferring with legislators. I've said this before, but calling your legislators shows them that you're serious, but making a campaign donation to a pro-Second Amendment legislator shows them that you're really serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted February 25, 2018 at 01:07 PM Share Posted February 25, 2018 at 01:07 PM Where's the 2AF? Don't they have lobbyists or are they just the lawsuit guys?What about GOA?Only pro 2A IL lobbyists I found registered with the state for 2018 during a prior search were FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSEES OF ILLINOIS, INCILLINOISCARRYILLINOIS STATE RIFLE ASSOCIATIONNATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA And Springfield Armory also has a lobbyist. Didn't scan on individual companies SPRINGFIELD ARMORY, INC. Of course there are anti 2A lobbyists registered alsoGUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION ACTION COMMITTEEILLINOIS COUNCIL AGAINST HANDGUN VIOLENCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted February 25, 2018 at 02:11 PM Share Posted February 25, 2018 at 02:11 PM Is International Association of Chiefs of Police listed? They are another Bloomberg disarmament lobby https://www.nraila.org/articles/20071115/follow-the-money-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted February 25, 2018 at 02:49 PM Share Posted February 25, 2018 at 02:49 PM Is International Association of Chiefs of Police listed? They are another Bloomberg disarmament lobbyhttps://www.nraila.org/articles/20071115/follow-the-money-3Lobbyist is Illinois assoc, not International CONSERVATION POLICE LODGEFRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE - LODGE #7FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE, ILLINOIS STATE LODGEILLINOIS ASSOCIATION OF CHIEFS OF POLICEILLINOIS FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE LABOR COUNCILILLINOIS POLICE ASSOCIATION, INC.ILLINOIS STATE POLICE MERIT BOARD (EXEMPT)POLICE BENEVOLENT & PROTECTIVE ASSOCIATION OF ILLINOISPOLICE BENEVOLENT LABOR COMMITTEESTATE POLICE COMMAND OFFICERS ASSOCIATIONILLINOIS SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted February 25, 2018 at 02:50 PM Share Posted February 25, 2018 at 02:50 PM delete dupe...board is weird/laggy this AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted February 25, 2018 at 03:13 PM Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 at 03:13 PM SAF and GOA generally don't work on the state level. SAF does a lot more litigation than lobbying. We've had NRA, and have ISRA, IC and GSL on the ground before. FFL-IL is new but adds to the stable. Right now the disruption at NRA is being noticed. We are going to need everyone to get their gun owning friends and family to make calls this week to their legislators. It is going to be fluid and fast. But your calls and passion are our best asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted February 25, 2018 at 03:41 PM Share Posted February 25, 2018 at 03:41 PM Chicago Democrats are a lost cause, you downstaters really have to put the pressure on your reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk5 Posted February 25, 2018 at 04:14 PM Share Posted February 25, 2018 at 04:14 PM Chicago Democrats are a lost cause, you downstaters really have to put the pressure on your reps. Both of mine in central IL support us. Thank goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted February 25, 2018 at 04:33 PM Share Posted February 25, 2018 at 04:33 PM Sometimes the staffers who take the calls are just running a tally, but on the off chance that they are conveying the content of a message to the legislator, I've been telling my legislators' staffers that all the gun legislation in the world is not going to stop criminals from getting illegal weapons and also - if there are law enforcement officers who simply don't respond during a shooting - there are no gun laws that are going to fix that. I've also asked my legislator to call for an end to "diversionary" programs that keep violent juvenile delinquents out of the records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted February 25, 2018 at 07:29 PM Share Posted February 25, 2018 at 07:29 PM Chicago Democrats are a lost cause, you downstaters really have to put the pressure on your reps. Both of mine in central IL support us. Thank goodness. I've been please do far (regarding the 2A) with mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted February 26, 2018 at 12:00 AM Share Posted February 26, 2018 at 12:00 AM Only pro 2A IL lobbyists I found registered with the state for 2018 during a prior search were IllinoisCarry, FFLs of IL, ISRA and the NRA. Don't forget lobbyists representing Springfield Armory - two of them filed witness slips opposing dealer licensing:Gary Hannig Morrill & Fiedler, LLC Springfield Armory Opponent Record Of Appearance OnlyCurt Fiedler Morrill & Fiedler, LLC Springfield Armory Opponent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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