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So by now word is leaking out about the Speakers plan to put a bunch of votes on the Board to play games with gun control bills.

 

I saw Mauser's mention of potential witness slips. I coul dbe wrong, but I doubt we will get that chance. If you remember the carry fight and how Madigan put all those floof amendments up on vote after vote, this is what I think will come down. I don't think we are going to go to comittee and be heard. They may just pop out a shell bill and then drop floor amendments straight to the floor.

 

it light of Florida, my bet is Madigan is looking to change the subject from his sexual harrasment issues he has bungled inthe House, his campaign committees and with the inspector general, and would really like to change the new stories to something else.

 

hang on. its gonna get rough

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Thanks a million, Todd. I am not on FacePlant and I'd like to donate to your group, please pm me instructions on how to do so.

 

Thanks MollyB and Mauser too. I'm standing by next week for further word on actions i need to be involved in.

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Thanks a million, Todd. I am not on FacePlant and I'd like to donate to your group, please pm me instructions on how to do so.

 

Thanks MollyB and Mauser too. I'm standing by next week for further word on actions i need to be involved in.

 

FFLS IL

The Federal Firearms Licensees of Illinois, (FFL-IL) a non-profit trade group for Federally Licensed Firearms dealers in Illinois

 

Donate link on web page <--- Seems most reliable to me

https://fflil.org/donate/

 

Donate link on mobile FB page but do not have account and it asks to LogIn

https://m.facebook.com/pages/call_to_action/confirm/?cta_id=1807981552569314&ref=page_internal&__tn__=%2CJ

 

...although "regular www" FB page redirects to a non FB fundrasing PayPal page initially but now redirects back for me

 

https://www.facebook.com/FFLIllinois/

https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=Yd_ULzuhygXlp9zJwukfegTGhomn0EE7xiS-ZSbduSlXLheDsILkNBSWL1EnP6GTHQMIl0&country.x=US&locale.x=US

 

IllinoisCarry

http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?app=subscriptions

 

ISRA

http://www.isra.org/Participate/YourMembership/JointheISRA.aspx

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Thanks a million, Todd. I am not on FacePlant and I'd like to donate to your group, please pm me instructions on how to do so.

 

Thanks MollyB and Mauser too. I'm standing by next week for further word on actions i need to be involved in.

FFLS IL

The Federal Firearms Licensees of Illinois, (FFL-IL) a non-profit trade group for Federally Licensed Firearms dealers in Illinois

 

Donate link on web page

https://fflil.org/donate/

 

Donate link on mobile FB page but do not have account and it asks to LogIn

https://m.facebook.com/pages/call_to_action/confirm/?cta_id=1807981552569314&ref=page_internal&__tn__=%2CJ

 

...although "regular www" FB page redirects to a non FB fundrasing PayPal page

 

https://www.facebook.com/FFLIllinois/

https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=Yd_ULzuhygXlp9zJwukfegTGhomn0EE7xiS-ZSbduSlXLheDsILkNBSWL1EnP6GTHQMIl0&country.x=US&locale.x=US

 

IllinoisCarry

http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?app=subscriptions

 

ISRA

http://www.isra.org/Participate/YourMembership/JointheISRA.aspx

 

 

 

Thanks IB, I just donated to FFLIllinois via Paypal. Appreciate the help. I support IC as well. I feel very fortunate as a law abiding firearms owner to have these fine people representing us down in Springfield. Have a nice weekend.

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guys & gals I'm not sure where this is going to go. But word is swirling that there will be more sexual harrasment stuff coming out of the Speakers organization with word of another ex staffer coming forward and another claim of nothing being done Some think this is the perfect cover to change the talk from about Madigan and his failure to handle these and other cases to shifting the talk about guns with the national debate going on.

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guys & gals I'm not sure where this is going to go. But word is swirling that there will be more sexual harrasment stuff coming out of the Speakers organization with word of another ex staffer coming forward and another claim of nothing being done Some think this is the perfect cover to change the talk from about Madigan and his failure to handle these and other cases to shifting the talk about guns with the national debate going on.

 

Todd; keep up the good word.

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guys & gals I'm not sure where this is going to go. But word is swirling that there will be more sexual harrasment stuff coming out of the Speakers organization with word of another ex staffer coming forward and another claim of nothing being done Some think this is the perfect cover to change the talk from about Madigan and his failure to handle these and other cases to shifting the talk about guns with the national debate going on.

 

 

He is definitely in the deflect attention from his own problems mode.

I think he’s looking to hide his problems and not not let a crisis go to waste.

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I love SAF but my impression of them is that they're mainly in the courthouse - not roaming the halls of state capitals, and my impression of GOA is that they're focused mostly (not entirely) on national Second Amendment issues, and they're very focused on the calling out the anti-gun media for their biased advocacy. I don't see GOA being so great at walking the halls of state capitals and conferring with legislators.

 

I've said this before, but calling your legislators shows them that you're serious, but making a campaign donation to a pro-Second Amendment legislator shows them that you're really serious.

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Where's the 2AF? Don't they have lobbyists or are they just the lawsuit guys?

What about GOA?

Only pro 2A IL lobbyists I found registered with the state for 2018 during a prior search were

 

FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSEES OF ILLINOIS, INC

ILLINOISCARRY

ILLINOIS STATE RIFLE ASSOCIATION

NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA

 

And Springfield Armory also has a lobbyist. Didn't scan on individual companies

 

SPRINGFIELD ARMORY, INC.

 

Of course there are anti 2A lobbyists registered also

GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION ACTION COMMITTEE

ILLINOIS COUNCIL AGAINST HANDGUN VIOLENCE

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Is International Association of Chiefs of Police listed? They are another Bloomberg disarmament lobby

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20071115/follow-the-money-3

Lobbyist is Illinois assoc, not International

 

CONSERVATION POLICE LODGE

FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE - LODGE #7

FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE, ILLINOIS STATE LODGE

ILLINOIS ASSOCIATION OF CHIEFS OF POLICE

ILLINOIS FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE LABOR COUNCIL

ILLINOIS POLICE ASSOCIATION, INC.

ILLINOIS STATE POLICE MERIT BOARD (EXEMPT)

POLICE BENEVOLENT & PROTECTIVE ASSOCIATION OF ILLINOIS

POLICE BENEVOLENT LABOR COMMITTEE

STATE POLICE COMMAND OFFICERS ASSOCIATION

ILLINOIS SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION

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SAF and GOA generally don't work on the state level. SAF does a lot more litigation than lobbying.

We've had NRA, and have ISRA, IC and GSL on the ground before. FFL-IL is new but adds to the stable.

Right now the disruption at NRA is being noticed. We are going to need everyone to get their gun owning friends and family to make calls this week to their legislators. It is going to be fluid and fast. But your calls and passion are our best asset.

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Sometimes the staffers who take the calls are just running a tally, but on the off chance that they are conveying the content of a message to the legislator, I've been telling my legislators' staffers that all the gun legislation in the world is not going to stop criminals from getting illegal weapons and also - if there are law enforcement officers who simply don't respond during a shooting - there are no gun laws that are going to fix that.

 

I've also asked my legislator to call for an end to "diversionary" programs that keep violent juvenile delinquents out of the records.

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Only pro 2A IL lobbyists I found registered with the state for 2018 during a prior search were IllinoisCarry, FFLs of IL, ISRA and the NRA.

 

 

 

 

Don't forget lobbyists representing Springfield Armory - two of them filed witness slips opposing dealer licensing:

Gary Hannig Morrill & Fiedler, LLC Springfield Armory Opponent Record Of Appearance Only

Curt Fiedler Morrill & Fiedler, LLC Springfield Armory Opponent

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