Molly B. Posted July 19, 2017 at 03:02 AM Share Posted July 19, 2017 at 03:02 AM This state appellate court ruling, Jankovich vs Illinois State Police, is very interesting and could be useful to others contemplating filing a CCL Review Board denial appeal in circuit court. It also emphasizes the importance of any response to the CCL Review Board request for a statement from the applicant addressing the particular objection filed against the applicant. pgs.12-13. Jankovich v. Illinois State Police.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted July 19, 2017 at 04:53 AM Share Posted July 19, 2017 at 04:53 AM I've tried downloading that several times, but it always fails part of the way and the document is corrupted when I tried to open it. I tried downloading several other PDFs from other sites and was able to do so with no problem. I think the upload is compromised somehow. Can it be fixed? Edit: It seems that it can be downloaded on a phone browser, but not on a computer browser. I tried with both of my computers with no success, but had no problem doing so with phone. Incidentally, all use Chrome as a browser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted July 19, 2017 at 04:57 AM Share Posted July 19, 2017 at 04:57 AM Downloaded fine for me. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma Posted July 19, 2017 at 04:59 AM Share Posted July 19, 2017 at 04:59 AM It'd be great if I could get it to download. Attached files have always been unreliable on this forum, not sure what the problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownshoe Posted July 19, 2017 at 06:08 AM Share Posted July 19, 2017 at 06:08 AM Here is a link: http://www.illinoiscourts.gov/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2017/1stDistrict/1160706.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted July 19, 2017 at 06:15 AM Share Posted July 19, 2017 at 06:15 AM Those 18 arrests that the plaintiff had, but was never convicted of, are but the tip of the iceberg. What you have there is a connected, crooked crony who breaks the law and manages to escape through connections, intimidation, and other shady and illegal means.The Board was entirely correct in denying him a CCL, even if the court hadn't shredded his bullsh!t non-argument.That is the sort of individual who would use the power of a legally carried firearm to threaten, intimidate, and even harm others without a second thought, and would very likely take advantage of the means previously used to dodge prosecution to try to evade similarly any malfeasance he committed with his CCW, which would end up reflecting badly on responsible, law-abiding CCL holders.He threatened to put someone in a woodchipper, and that is only one of the things that was reported. He has definitely done worse than that, but was just never reported or arrested for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDave6 Posted July 19, 2017 at 11:10 AM Share Posted July 19, 2017 at 11:10 AM I've tried downloading that several times, but it always fails part of the way and the document is corrupted when I tried to open it. I tried downloading several other PDFs from other sites and was able to do so with no problem. I think the upload is compromised somehow. Can it be fixed? Edit: It seems that it can be downloaded on a phone browser, but not on a computer browser. I tried with both of my computers with no success, but had no problem doing so with phone. Incidentally, all use Chrome as a browser.Try doing right click then save.That sometimes works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted July 21, 2017 at 08:19 PM Share Posted July 21, 2017 at 08:19 PM I read the pdf. Sounds to me like the ISP made the right call in denial in this case. He certainly doesn't sound like the best representation of gun owners... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted July 21, 2017 at 09:32 PM Share Posted July 21, 2017 at 09:32 PM Yet there's still the issue of denying someone a right without convictions... Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted July 22, 2017 at 02:24 AM Share Posted July 22, 2017 at 02:24 AM Yet there's still the issue of denying someone a right without convictions... Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkThank you. Some people don't see the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted July 22, 2017 at 02:24 AM Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 at 02:24 AM Yet there's still the issue of denying someone a right without convictions... Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using TapatalkThank you. Some people don't see the difference. We do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted July 25, 2017 at 09:24 PM Share Posted July 25, 2017 at 09:24 PM Probable cause is more likely than not. It's easily established. Preponderance of the evidence. So denying a right based on the civil standard for guilt, criminal standard for arrest, is...ok? I'm not OK with that. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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