DD123 Posted February 12, 2019 at 06:14 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 06:14 PM The anti's are advising their braindead followers to submit slips for everyone in their homes, including children, and telling them that you can file even if you're not a legal, permanent resident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 12, 2019 at 06:39 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 06:39 PM The anti's are advising their braindead followers to submit slips for everyone in their homes, including children, and telling them that you can file even if you're not a legal, permanent resident. If you got that in an email, can you post a screenshot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted February 12, 2019 at 06:40 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 06:40 PM The anti's are advising their braindead followers to submit slips for everyone in their homes, including children, and telling them that you can file even if you're not a legal, permanent resident. That sounds like how a progressive operates/will do ya. Do we have any documentation on that being suggested by them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted February 12, 2019 at 06:41 PM Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 06:41 PM The anti's are advising their braindead followers to submit slips for everyone in their homes, including children, and telling them that you can file even if you're not a legal, permanent resident. If you got that in an email, can you post a screenshot? I'll look for screenshots. People have been screenshotting their posts about this. Let me see if I can find them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted February 12, 2019 at 07:15 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 07:15 PM And you dont have to be a us citizen either WT*, why not just call the Russia and China so they can demand Illinois disarm its citizens. Can the feds do anything on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:10 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:10 PM The anti's are advising their braindead followers to submit slips for everyone in their homes, including children, and telling them that you can file even if you're not a legal, permanent resident.If you got that in an email, can you post a screenshot?I'll look for screenshots. People have been screenshotting their posts about this. Let me see if I can find them. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmithWesson Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:23 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:23 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:25 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:25 PM Screenshot_20190212-140056_Chrome.jpgGood post. More outlets on our side need to be used to spread the word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:30 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:30 PM I split this topic off from our 2/10/2019 Call to Action so that topic can stay focused on its purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:43 PM Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:43 PM I split this topic off from our 2/10/2019 Call to Action so that topic can stay focused on its purpose.Thanks Mauser! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:44 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:44 PM Thanks for understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchet Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:51 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:51 PM 2181 opponent; 1040 proponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:52 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:52 PM good call mauserme, it does deserve a thread of its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchet Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:57 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 08:57 PM And you can see the moms in action. They all seem to follow Mom, then dad, then kids. Wouldn't be surprised if the family dog was an opponent also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:17 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:17 PM Ha!! So Sara is a ghost writer and a former ESL teacher for both kids and adults. Seems she’s using the immigrants who don’t speak good English to file witness slips who may or may not know exactly what they’re filing out....... http://communicationsopendoor.com/newsyoucanuse/author/saraknizhnik/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:28 PM Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:28 PM Ha!! So Sara is a ghost writer and a former ESL teacher for both kids and adults. Seems she’s using the immigrants who don’t speak good English to file witness slips who may or may not know exactly what they’re filing out....... http://communicationsopendoor.com/newsyoucanuse/author/saraknizhnik/ This is all in a Facebook group The Witness Slip Project. One of the other people in that group is using a fake name, but it’s Robin Christine. She’s literally blocking and removing anyone that has different views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:33 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:33 PM Surprise! LWW's and lying/fraud go hand in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:36 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:36 PM Sara is in charge at ILGVP, the organization that swallowed up ICHV and put Mark and Colleen out of work. ( ICHV looks like it exists in name only in 2019.) So apparently she also has a day-job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:47 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:47 PM Sara is in charge at ILGVP, the organization that swallowed up ICHV and put Mark and Colleen out of work. ( ICHV looks like it exists in name only in 2019.) So apparently she also has a day-job. I’ll start digging on ILGVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:48 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:48 PM Ha!! So Sara is a ghost writer and a former ESL teacher for both kids and adults. Seems she’s using the immigrants who don’t speak good English to file witness slips who may or may not know exactly what they’re filing out.......http://communicationsopendoor.com/newsyoucanuse/author/saraknizhnik/This is all in a Facebook group The Witness Slip Project. One of the other people in that group is using a fake name, but it’s Robin Christine. She’s literally blocking and removing anyone that has different views. We need the evidence that they’re using fake names. Gather and post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird76Mojo Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:48 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:48 PM Apparently, the Illinois state website even advocates that you fill out multiple slips yourself, as long as you represent a different person or group each time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:52 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:52 PM Sara is in charge at ILGVP, the organization that swallowed up ICHV and put Mark and Colleen out of work. ( ICHV looks like it exists in name only in 2019.) So apparently she also has a day-job.I’ll start digging on ILGVPPart of GPAC https://gpacillinois.com/illinois-gun-violence-prevention-coalition/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:53 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:53 PM Apparently, the Illinois state website even advocates that you fill out multiple slips yourself, as long as you represent a different person or group each time. Unbelievable, but not really...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:54 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 09:54 PM Sara is in charge at ILGVP, the organization that swallowed up ICHV and put Mark and Colleen out of work. ( ICHV looks like it exists in name only in 2019.) So apparently she also has a day-job. The crazy thing is she's leading a charge against an ISRA call for witness slips supporting HB367. Unless I missed something they didn't do that. Nor did we. And not GSL either, that I've seen. Sometimes it's better to leave these people fighting imaginary battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 12, 2019 at 10:02 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 10:02 PM Sara is in charge at ILGVP, the organization that swallowed up ICHV and put Mark and Colleen out of work. ( ICHV looks like it exists in name only in 2019.) So apparently she also has a day-job.The crazy thing is she's leading a charge against an ISRA call for witness slips supporting HB367. Unless I missed something they didn't do that. Nor did we. And not GSL either, that I've seen.Sometimes it's better to leave these people fighting imaginary battles. ISRA FB should reply and say something like “uh, we never called for witness slips to be filled out. This is people doing it themselves” And they do fight imaginary battles, just like “gun violence” and how banning semi-autos will make everything better. I’m stopping at the social security office after work and am going to try and get as many people as I can to file witness slips on our behalf. Then, I’m hitting up the local PADS shelter...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted February 12, 2019 at 10:05 PM Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 10:05 PM Sara is in charge at ILGVP, the organization that swallowed up ICHV and put Mark and Colleen out of work. ( ICHV looks like it exists in name only in 2019.) So apparently she also has a day-job.The crazy thing is she's leading a charge against an ISRA call for witness slips supporting HB367. Unless I missed something they didn't do that. Nor did we. And not GSL either, that I've seen. Sometimes it's better to leave these people fighting imaginary battles. Just to provide some background on their group: they're whacked out, far left progressives so they push for their followers to fill out slips for anything that agrees with their politics. Guns aren't their sole focus. I read through the stuff that they ask people to fill slips on, and most of it is so far off in Lala land that it makes me question the entire mental health profession because most of them strike me as the type that shouldn't be out free among the general public. The opposition for the fix to the dealer bill is one of the things that highlighted what the goal of the original dealer bill was.....they have no interest in actually going after gun shops that, using their own term, are "bad apple gun dealers". They just want blanket regulation of all gun shops, with the goal of driving them out of business. Most of the people on their page would qualify for Pinochet's free helicopter rides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 12, 2019 at 10:12 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 10:12 PM Sara is in charge at ILGVP, the organization that swallowed up ICHV and put Mark and Colleen out of work. ( ICHV looks like it exists in name only in 2019.) So apparently she also has a day-job. The crazy thing is she's leading a charge against an ISRA call for witness slips supporting HB367. Unless I missed something they didn't do that. Nor did we. And not GSL either, that I've seen.Sometimes it's better to leave these people fighting imaginary battles.Just to provide some background on their group: they're whacked out, far left progressives so they push for their followers to fill out slips for anything that agrees with their politics. Guns aren't their sole focus. I read through the stuff that they ask people to fill slips on, and most of it is so far off in Lala land that it makes me question the entire mental health profession because most of them strike me as the type that shouldn't be out free among the general public. The opposition for the fix to the dealer bill is one of the things that highlighted what the goal of the original dealer bill was.....they have no interest in actually going after gun shops that, using their own term, are "bad apple gun dealers". They just want blanket regulation of all gun shops, with the goal of driving them out of business. Most of the people on their page would qualify for Pinochet's free helicopter rides.Post some example of whacked out posts when you get time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted February 12, 2019 at 10:17 PM Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 10:17 PM The crazy thing is she's leading a charge against an ISRA call for witness slips supporting HB367. Unless I missed something they didn't do that. Nor did we. And not GSL either, that I've seen.Sometimes it's better to leave these people fighting imaginary battles.Just to provide some background on their group: they're whacked out, far left progressives so they push for their followers to fill out slips for anything that agrees with their politics. Guns aren't their sole focus. I read through the stuff that they ask people to fill slips on, and most of it is so far off in Lala land that it makes me question the entire mental health profession because most of them strike me as the type that shouldn't be out free among the general public. The opposition for the fix to the dealer bill is one of the things that highlighted what the goal of the original dealer bill was.....they have no interest in actually going after gun shops that, using their own term, are "bad apple gun dealers". They just want blanket regulation of all gun shops, with the goal of driving them out of business. Most of the people on their page would qualify for Pinochet's free helicopter rides.Post some example of whacked out posts when you get time I'll screen shot them when I see them, but I don't have much time to search through all of their posts for the craziest ones. If you go to their group's page and look at the most recent post from "Robin", and then expand the comments, there are some good ones in there. It's the post about her having to ban a bunch of people because of being "rude". Our side doesn't do ourselves any favors because a bunch of pro gun people went on their page and started trolling them, but not even in a good way. She banned/blocked them, but she also did that with people who weren't even being vulgar, or anything like that.....they simply disagreed with the hive mind. ETA: the trolls on our side seem like a bunch of morons. I've seen entire groups on FB that are dedicated to taking down other groups through trolling, and who do you think they decide to target? If you said "other gun owners" you'd be correct. It would be much better if they focused those energies on taking down a group like the one we're discussing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottFM Posted February 12, 2019 at 10:20 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 10:20 PM And you dont have to be a us citizen eitherWT*, why not just call the Russia and China so they can demand Illinois disarm its citizens.Can the feds do anything on this?Russia funds the NRA so they probably would be pro-witness slips. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/11/nra-russia-money-guns-516804 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/russian-agents-guilty-plea-intensifies-spotlight-on-relationship-with-nra/2018/12/13/e6569a00-fe26-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html?utm_term=.3549663253cb And BTW getting your friends and family to add to the fray is something the pro-gun side has done too: "Get you friends and family to participate as well. That’s right: Each and every member of your household may file a slip! Let your family members become force multipliers for the cause of freedom. Make submitting witness slips something fun that everyone can share doing together. " http://www.gunssavelife.com/file-illinois-general-assembly-witness-slips/ Just my $.02, the witness slips just give the legislature an idea of which side is mobilizing their proponents. The real positions and input come from the lobbyists and people who call in/write in and show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 12, 2019 at 10:23 PM Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 10:23 PM http://i.imgur.com/Re8ALk7.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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