Jazzmanmonty Posted May 21, 2017 at 04:02 AM Share Posted May 21, 2017 at 04:02 AM I purchased a springfield xd mod 2 pistol and as part of their promotion, they send you 4 free magazines. To my surprise they sent me 4 10-round magazines insted of 13 and 16 round magz. Their invoice stated homer glen has a 10 round magazine restriction. Can anyone confirm this before i contact them? Ive spent the past few hours researching local ordinances and cannot find any such restriction. Thanks in advance for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted May 21, 2017 at 04:20 AM Share Posted May 21, 2017 at 04:20 AM Didnt see anything in the muni code http://www.ecode360.com/HO3123 or a listing here https://ispfsb.com/Public/Firearms/MunicipalOrdinances.aspx If you are on SA website buying magazines, no restrictions mentioned at least up to point of entering personal information at checkout. You're in Will County. Arent sharing a zip code with any other town are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmanmonty Posted May 21, 2017 at 04:41 AM Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 at 04:41 AM No i am in 60491 zip. I just found a post in another forum post that someone from chicago had the same problem with springfield refusing to send them high capacity magazines as well. So i am not the only one. I will shoot springfield an email and see if they can clarify in eriting as to their logic..i will post an update as soon as they reply as it seems to not be just an isolated issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted May 21, 2017 at 04:46 AM Share Posted May 21, 2017 at 04:46 AM Yes, but technically Chicago still has a limit on their books iirc (which they changed to 15), even though in theory handgun magazines became preempted at the state level with passage of CCL. So if HomerGlen never had one where did SA get that from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmanmonty Posted May 21, 2017 at 05:21 AM Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 at 05:21 AM Exactly. Maybe they are just probably trying to play it safe, or they are trying to be cheap and get rid of overstock 10 round mags lol. Thanks for your help and the links. I'll reference them in my email I send to Springfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scanlo37 Posted May 21, 2017 at 07:00 AM Share Posted May 21, 2017 at 07:00 AM NO old info. But alot of places dont want to take any chances with cook county and Chicago in particular. They dont want to risk there FFL. Midway USA for example wont ship any ammo to Chicago period, no matter how I point out the new law and where they can find it online to confirm. HAS to be a non chicago address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDave6 Posted May 21, 2017 at 11:35 AM Share Posted May 21, 2017 at 11:35 AM Well, Homer Glen was run buy a Daley until a couple years ago. Maybe SA thinks it's part of Chitcago. #purple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not me Posted May 21, 2017 at 12:38 PM Share Posted May 21, 2017 at 12:38 PM I purchased a springfield xd mod 2 pistol and as part of their promotion, they send you 4 free magazines. To my surprise they sent me 4 10-round magazines insted of 13 and 16 round magz. Their invoice stated homer glen has a 10 round magazine restriction. Can anyone confirm this before i contact them? Ive spent the past few hours researching local ordinances and cannot find any such restriction. Thanks in advance for your help.Don't buy products from companies that support the anti gun legislation? Might want to try to send them the legislation that nullifies magazine restrictions. Good luck, doubt they will care considering their recent actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagt48 Posted May 21, 2017 at 01:01 PM Share Posted May 21, 2017 at 01:01 PM NO old info. But alot of places dont want to take any chances with cook county and Chicago in particular. They dont want to risk there FFL. Midway USA for example wont ship any ammo to Chicago period, no matter how I point out the new law and where they can find it online to confirm. HAS to be a non chicago address.I've gotten several ammo orders from Midway and I live in Chicago. You just can't order a few of the main handgun calibers like 9mm, .380, and .45 ACP. I've gotten .40, .45 Colt, 12 gauge, several rifle calibers, etc. without issue. They use the ATF handbook for their restrictions, which quite possibly hasn't been updated since before .40 was created. I believe that it is the responsibility of the state attorney to update the ATF, which would explain a lot. Perhaps you could contact the ATF and let them know that they are printing old, I correct law in their reference book? From Midway USA.City law restricts the sale of certain handgun ammunition to Chicago residents. This includes 22 Short, Long, Long Rifle and Magnum, 25 ACP, 380 ACP, 38 Special, 357 Magnum, 9mm Luger and 45 ACP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsxdm Posted May 21, 2017 at 02:04 PM Share Posted May 21, 2017 at 02:04 PM I live in Homer Glen and have ordered extra 19 round mags direct from SA and never had a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted May 21, 2017 at 02:42 PM Share Posted May 21, 2017 at 02:42 PM If a credit card was used, call and dispute the purchase as long as SA does not deliver as advertised. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted May 21, 2017 at 02:46 PM Share Posted May 21, 2017 at 02:46 PM I've gotten several ammo orders from Midway and I live in Chicago. You just can't order a few of the main handgun calibers like 9mm, .380, and .45 ACP. I've gotten .40, .45 Colt, 12 gauge, several rifle calibers, etc. without issue. They use the ATF handbook for their restrictions, which quite possibly hasn't been updated since before .40 was created. I believe that it is the responsibility of the state attorney to update the ATF, which would explain a lot. Perhaps you could contact the ATF and let them know that they are printing old, I correct law in their reference book? From Midway USA.City law restricts the sale of certain handgun ammunition to Chicago residents. This includes 22 Short, Long, Long Rifle and Magnum, 25 ACP, 380 ACP, 38 Special, 357 Magnum, 9mm Luger and 45 ACP. When did you do this? I have NEVER been able to order from Midway. I even sent them my FOID and got a reply that I was now "good to go", only to have them refuse to ship to a Chicago address. In addition to citing the old ammo restriction law which no longer exists they claim there's a law that prevents them from shipping to Chicago. They do, however, say they'll send to a non-Chicago address which directly violates the Illinois FOID law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkhalil61 Posted May 21, 2017 at 03:08 PM Share Posted May 21, 2017 at 03:08 PM If a credit card was used, call and dispute the purchase as long as SA does not deliver as advertised. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Its a promotion so its free. All you have to do is buy one of their handguns and send them a receipt of your order and they will send you 4 free mags plus a holster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagt48 Posted May 21, 2017 at 08:21 PM Share Posted May 21, 2017 at 08:21 PM I've gotten several ammo orders from Midway and I live in Chicago. You just can't order a few of the main handgun calibers like 9mm, .380, and .45 ACP. I've gotten .40, .45 Colt, 12 gauge, several rifle calibers, etc. without issue. They use the ATF handbook for their restrictions, which quite possibly hasn't been updated since before .40 was created. I believe that it is the responsibility of the state attorney to update the ATF, which would explain a lot. Perhaps you could contact the ATF and let them know that they are printing old, I correct law in their reference book?From Midway USA.City law restricts the sale of certain handgun ammunition to Chicago residents. This includes 22 Short, Long, Long Rifle and Magnum, 25 ACP, 380 ACP, 38 Special, 357 Magnum, 9mm Luger and 45 ACP.When did you do this? I have NEVER been able to order from Midway. I even sent them my FOID and got a reply that I was now "good to go", only to have them refuse to ship to a Chicago address. In addition to citing the old ammo restriction law which no longer exists they claim there's a law that prevents them from shipping to Chicago. They do, however, say they'll send to a non-Chicago address which directly violates the Illinois FOID law.The last time was less than a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted May 22, 2017 at 01:25 AM Share Posted May 22, 2017 at 01:25 AM The last time was less than a year ago.I'll try tomorrow to see if it works but I doubt it will. That they still cite those old caliber restrictions makes me think they sent you your order on accident. They certainly aren't on the "will ship to Chicago" list, and I know they've been contacted multiple times by people here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric D. Posted May 22, 2017 at 02:41 AM Share Posted May 22, 2017 at 02:41 AM I had the same thing happen to me with a Smith and Wesson free magazine shipment a few years back. I got my two free magazines, but they were only 10-rounders (I thought I was getting 17-rounders). I called, and they indicated that they were shipping 10-rounders to everyone in Illinois because they didn't want to attempt to figure out what county they were shipping to (I'm in Will). By the time I got the magazines, the promotion was over and they wouldn't entertain any swapping out. I considered sending them back, but ended up keeping them (it didn't seem reasonable to send something back, even if it wasn't exactly what I wanted since I wouldn't get anything in return). I was at the range today with my neighbor, He saw the magazines and asked if I used to live in California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted May 22, 2017 at 05:15 AM Share Posted May 22, 2017 at 05:15 AM At least the mags were free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted May 22, 2017 at 12:57 PM Share Posted May 22, 2017 at 12:57 PM Midway USA for example wont ship any ammo to Chicago period, no matter how I point out the new law and where they can find it online to confirm. HAS to be a non chicago address. They won't ship 30-round AR mags to any where in Cook County either. I'm through with them. They're doing what the antis want them to do...abide by laws that don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted May 22, 2017 at 11:57 PM Share Posted May 22, 2017 at 11:57 PM BTW, got a reply from Nick at Midway today: Dear [chislinger], Thank you for your recent email, I apologize but we still have the same policies since the last time we had your FOID. I understand this is unbelievably frustrating, especially as the laws have long been repealed and no longer in effect. I hope you understand that we have to play carefully with restricted shipping as sending one restricted item can put us in a world of hurt. I will plead your case though and make sure that when we are able to ship to you again, we will be sure to inform you and other customers within Chicago and Cook County. If you have any additional questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at 1-800-243-3220. Our hours of operation are Monday through Friday 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. CST. You may also email us at customerservice@midwayusa.com. Thanks for Your Business! Nick MidwayUSA Customer Service So that's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeterlancer Posted May 23, 2017 at 07:39 PM Share Posted May 23, 2017 at 07:39 PM I'm really not sure why companies in one state are choosing to obey (or even create their own) laws in another state. If someone in CA orders an illegal magazine, that should be their fault for ordering it and taking possession of it. KyGunCo informed me that they will not ship a handgun with normal capacity mags to an FFL in Cook County. LOLWHAT? You are shipping a legal firearm to a federally licensed dealer. That's the job of the FFL to know and follow the local law. But get this! They are fine with me having a Cook Co billing address and shipping to an FFL in the non-Cook burbs. Makes no freaking sense. The worst thing about guns in Illinois isn't necessarily the gun laws, it's the online dealers who make up random rules for shipping. But I'm crafty and have ways of getting around their dumb rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted May 26, 2017 at 06:54 PM Share Posted May 26, 2017 at 06:54 PM I'm really not sure why companies in one state are choosing to obey (or even create their own) laws in another state. If someone in CA orders an illegal magazine, that should be their fault for ordering it and taking possession of it. In theory, I agree. But, you know how things are this day and age. Let's say a dealer of whatever type sells a product and ships it to a location where said product may be prohibited. All fine and good. No laws were broken. BUT, they have a business to run. They don't want any bad press ("out-of-state dealers shipping ILLEGAL products to our CHILDREN!!!"). They don't want lawsuits either. Imagine someone in Chicago is shot with an AR15 with a 30rnd magazine shipped from out of state. If that information can be obtained, it'd be a PR disaster for the shipper...and potentially open them up to frivolous lawsuits by families of the victim(s) or the attorney general. Also...a lot of these companies operate in states with freedom. They simply do not want to be bothered dealing with all the intricate and confusing laws of various metropolitan areas. They'd rather just write it off. From their POV, if you want us to ship to you, change your politicians or move someplace else. Honestly, I can't argue with them much on that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkhalil61 Posted May 26, 2017 at 06:59 PM Share Posted May 26, 2017 at 06:59 PM I'm really not sure why companies in one state are choosing to obey (or even create their own) laws in another state. If someone in CA orders an illegal magazine, that should be their fault for ordering it and taking possession of it. In theory, I agree. But, you know how things are this day and age. Let's say a dealer of whatever type sells a product and ships it to a location where said product may be prohibited. All fine and good. No laws were broken. BUT, they have a business to run. They don't want any bad press ("out-of-state dealers shipping ILLEGAL products to our CHILDREN!!!"). They don't want lawsuits either. Imagine someone in Chicago is shot with an AR15 with a 30rnd magazine shipped from out of state. If that information can be obtained, it'd be a PR disaster for the shipper...and potentially open them up to frivolous lawsuits by families of the victim(s) or the attorney general. Also...a lot of these companies operate in states with freedom. They simply do not want to be bothered dealing with all the intricate and confusing laws of various metropolitan areas. They'd rather just write it off. From their POV, if you want us to ship to you, change your politicians or move someplace else. Honestly, I can't argue with them much on that point. NAILED IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeterlancer Posted May 26, 2017 at 07:00 PM Share Posted May 26, 2017 at 07:00 PM I'm really not sure why companies in one state are choosing to obey (or even create their own) laws in another state. If someone in CA orders an illegal magazine, that should be their fault for ordering it and taking possession of it. In theory, I agree. But, you know how things are this day and age. Let's say a dealer of whatever type sells a product and ships it to a location where said product may be prohibited. All fine and good. No laws were broken. BUT, they have a business to run. They don't want any bad press ("out-of-state dealers shipping ILLEGAL products to our CHILDREN!!!"). They don't want lawsuits either. Imagine someone in Chicago is shot with an AR15 with a 30rnd magazine shipped from out of state. If that information can be obtained, it'd be a PR disaster for the shipper...and potentially open them up to frivolous lawsuits by families of the victim(s) or the attorney general. Also...a lot of these companies operate in states with freedom. They simply do not want to be bothered dealing with all the intricate and confusing laws of various metropolitan areas. They'd rather just write it off. From their POV, if you want us to ship to you, change your politicians or move someplace else. Honestly, I can't argue with them much on that point. Makes sense. I used to have the same thoughts when I lived in gun friendly states. I would just think "why wouldn't you just move out of CA, NY, NJ?" Well, guns are just a hobby and someone might have a really good job, a family to feed, and grandma/grandpa/mom/dad to look after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazborgufen Posted May 30, 2017 at 02:45 PM Share Posted May 30, 2017 at 02:45 PM Seems to me that the the gun market has softened quite a bit since Trump won the election. Less fear of gun bans means less panic buying. It surprises me that stores are willing to refuse customers in this environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted May 31, 2017 at 03:39 PM Share Posted May 31, 2017 at 03:39 PM Seems to me that the the gun market has softened quite a bit since Trump won the election. Less fear of gun bans means less panic buying. It surprises me that stores are willing to refuse customers in this environment. You'd think, wouldn't you? The decreased demand is going to lead to lower prices too...double whammy. It could be a great time to build an AR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkhalil61 Posted May 31, 2017 at 04:47 PM Share Posted May 31, 2017 at 04:47 PM I gave Springfield Armory an address out side cook county, lets see what happens.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vstar Posted May 31, 2017 at 08:08 PM Share Posted May 31, 2017 at 08:08 PM They (Springfield Armory) shipped to Kane county. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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