Eric Holder: More Fed Money to Fight Chicago Violence (look for more attempts at gun control)

[McCroskey]

From: http://www.newsmax.com/US/Chicago-US-Attorney/2013/11/25/id/538643

 

(Emphasis is my own)

 

Attorney General Eric Holder announced in Chicago on Monday that the federal government would make more money available to help the nation's third largest city fight persistent street violence.

 

Holder made that pledge during brief comments at the ceremonial swearing-in for northern Illinois' new U.S. attorney, Zachary Fardon. Fardon has faced a chorus of calls from politicians to make gang, drug and gun crimes that underpin violence in Chicago his top priority.

 

In the prepared remarks to a federal courtroom packed with judges and lawmakers — including Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel and Illinois Sens. Dick Durbin and Mark Kirk — Holder did not specify how much money would be coming the city's way.

 

He alluded to long-running differences over how to bring down street violence in Chicago, saying, "This is simply not a time for institutional friction."

 

"We must be realistically impatient and results-demanding," he said.

 

Some of the disagreement has been between Fardon and Mayor Emanuel, who last month said prosecutors were doing a poor job enforcing federal gun laws in Chicago. Asked in an interview last week about Emanuel's comment, Fardon said, "I respectfully disagree."

 

In broad comments about where the federal help could be directed, Holder mentioned hiring new Chicago-based agents for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, or ATF. He said money could also be freed up to allow more beat officers to walk city streets.

 

Amid budgetary constraints imposed by Congress, at least some of the funds could come from assets convicted drug traffickers are forced to forfeit, said Holder.

 

Chicago's killings topped 500 last year — the first time it hit that mark since 2008. Though the homicide rate has declined in 2013, the slaying early this year of 15-year-old honor student Hadiya Pendleton a mile from President Barack Obama's South Side home put the issue of Chicago violence back in the national headlines.

 

After Monday's ceremony, Durbin, a Democrat, and Kirk, a Republican, heralded Holder's assurances about new money, despite the lack of specifics. The two lawmakers have been the most outspoken about the need for Fardon to focus on street violence.

 

"We are waiting for the details," Durbin said about Holder's announcement. "But this is good news for Chicago."

 

Fardon, 47, replaces Patrick Fitzgerald, who resigned from the high-profile post last year to enter private practice. As a then-assistant to Fitzgerald, Fardon helped convict former Illinois Gov. George Ryan of corruption in 2006.

 

In his remarks earlier Monday at his otherwise festive swearing-in, Fardon went out of his way to broach the challenge of changing the course of violent crime in Chicago — calling the issue "an elephant that's been in the room all year."

 

Stemming the persistently high number of homicides in Chicago would require the participation of the community, as well as municipal and federal agencies, Fardon said.

 

"It's a tall order. And so be it," he said. "We will succeed."

[Bud]

The problem with all of that is historically, the BATFE spends most of their time trying to justify their existence by harassing, persecuting and ambushing law aboiding citizens instead of going after the real criminals. They are a results based organization that places emphasis on quantity of arrests not quality.

 

They they long outlived their usefulness. The "ATF": should actually be a convenience store

[milq]

The problem with all of that is historically, the BATFE spends most of their time trying to justify their existence by harassing, persecuting and ambushing law aboiding citizens instead of going after the real criminals. They are a results based organization that places emphasis on quantity of arrests not quality.

 

They they long outlived their usefulness. The "ATF": should actually be a convenience store

 

Agreed, I've been through a few compliance checks for FFL and on visit #1 we were told that item "B" had to been done in such a manner....on visit #2 the inspector said that the way item "B" was now being handled was wrong and we should do it the way it was done prior to visit #1. In other words, they can't find a real problem so they use some vague little thing just to mark their forms that they found an issue, justifying their job.

 

Never mind the issues with F&F and whatever the name of that botched fake gun shop operation in Detroit is/was....nothing to see here, move along.

[C0untZer0]

And there is more than one way to achieve gun control, one way is to force people to make the "better to be judged by twelve than carried by six" decision:

 

 

Attorney General Eric Holder denounces ‘stand your ground’ laws

 

http://articles.wash...watch-volunteer

 

 

 

Holder: Some self-defense laws should be questioned

 

http://www.usatoday....rights/2522923/

 

 

 

 

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[AJR]

 

Some of the disagreement has been between Fardon and Mayor Emanuel, who last month said prosecutors were doing a poor job enforcing federal gun laws in Chicago. Asked in an interview last week about Emanuel's comment, Fardon said, "I respectfully disagree."

 

I would have to agree with Emanuel on the above quote.

If prosecutors would enforce the current laws that are focused more on criminals, they would not have to keep trying to put in laws in place that would even attack the innocent, that just may have made a simple mistake.

[Elderberry]

Fardon went out of his way to broach the challenge of changing the course of violent crime in Chicago — calling the issue "an elephant that's been in the room all year."

 

Clearly, the real "elephant in the room" is the fact that this nation does not have the resources to imprison all those who so richly deserve it. And embarrassingly few politicians, prosecutors, and judges have the stomach to publicly own up to that fact, so, instead, they keep the conversation focused on "other" topics...

 

There are only two inarguable ways to resolve the violence epidemic in America -- either incarcerate the perpetrators or execute them. While incarceration is a short term solution, execution guarantees a reduction in recidivism...

[GWBH]

I say give reformation through the penal system a chance for petty offenses.

If they get out and continue the same criminal activity, or for those that commit violent crimes - terminate their existence. (i.e. kill them)

There are no consequences for evil people in today's "progressive " America.

[mostholycerebus]

1) Payback to the city and Emanuel. The money will be diverted to police, so the Chicago budget can be used on other things. Big O doesnt want Chicago going the way of Detroit under his watch.

2) Perfect timing. As the crime rate drops when CCW is implemented and spreads, Holder can take the credit.

[Bud]

I don't seriously there will be any discernible drop in crime in Chicago because of CCW.

Chicago 's crime rate, other than agg assault and homicide is already low.

The homicides/agg assaults are mostly done gang v. Gang member and CCW will have no effect on that

[chislinger]

I don't seriously there will be any discernible drop in crime in Chicago because of CCW.

Chicago 's crime rate, other than agg assault and homicide is already low.

The homicides/agg assaults are mostly done gang v. Gang member and CCW will have no effect on that

Yep, the "war on drugs" means there's big money to be made by street gangs, and they'll continue killing each other over lucrative drug turf no matter how much money we throw at fighting it. And concealed carry laws will do nothing to stem gang warfare. Same issues we had in Chicago with alcohol prohibition, but whereas we realized after a decade that was a failure and created more problems than it solved we are stuck on stupid as far as drug prohibition goes.

[C0untZer0]

Lies damn lies and statistics. The anti-gun reporters in the media routinely lump justifiable homicide in with murder and just report "homicides" It makes it look like crime goes up.

 

Rapists, burglars and muggers that would have only left behind a victim before carry was allowed, end up being killed and adding to the overall homicide statistic.

 

Scenario 1: A guy holds up a liquor store with a dangerous weapon, its reported as an armed robbery.

 

Scenario 2: A guy holds up a liquor store with a dangerous weapon, the clerk deploys a firearm and shoots the robber dead, it's reported as an armed robbery and justifiable homicide.

 

The result is a net increase in "crimes" reported when they don't exclude for justifiable homicide.

 

I don't think CCW is going to lead to a drop in gang violence, it's not like they think the opposing gang members might not be armed - they already know the other gang members are armed. They use the element of surprise and a quick getaway because they know the other gang is going to return fire, and they know there will be reprisals - that doesn't stop them.

[Colt guy]

Let the police be the police. Go after the deep corruption which is destroying the state. Now THAT would be worthwhile.

[ChadN.]

Bring back the death penalty for violent felons staying for life and remove prison privileges such as cable and etc. Why are our tax money used to feed and care for these people? Make term felons do hard labor for their stay. Make them pay for their education and college degrees while in prison in some way, why should this be free as well?

[Nakano]

I could only see them bringing out more gun bans since they have no idea how to really deal with the gangs.

[s0beit]

Ruin your city and state budget, get federal money to solve your self-inflicted problem!

 

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