mauserme Posted November 25, 2020 at 12:50 PM Share Posted November 25, 2020 at 12:50 PM https://www.atr.org/biden-impose-200-gun-tax Biden to Impose $200 Gun TaxPosted by Isabelle Morales on Wednesday, October 28th, 2020, 1:30 PMJoe Biden would force semiautomatic rifle owners to either participate in a gun buyback program, or register their firearm under the National Firearms Act, which requires the payment of a $200 tax. This would extend to AR-15s and other common household rifles. Those who do not comply would face up to 10 years in federal prison, and a potential $10,000 fine.This is yet another violation of Joe Biden's pledge against any tax increase on anyone making less than $400,000 a year....Suddenly, gun control becomes less about mere firearm ownership and more about controlling working-class Americans. In urban areas, where people are most vulnerable to crime, its not hard to imagine how crushing this could be. There is nothing new about leftist politicians taxing urban residents in order to dictate behavior, ownership, and lifestyle....Kim Kelly, a labor organizer in Brooklyn, explained the economic implications of this law in the Washington Post: Regardless of ones opinion on guns and gun control, it is obvious that this proposal will disproportionately impact poor and working-class communities. Those within those communities who already own firearms would be robbed of their ability to protect themselves and their loved ones, while their wealthier counterparts would skate by on their ready piles of cash In effect, Bidens plan sets in motion a war on guns, the same way his predecessors declared wars on poverty, crime and terror wars in which it was inevitably black and brown people who were the real targets."The $200 gun tax suggests certain assumptions by Biden and other leftist politicians, made about working-class Americans and their ability to responsibly own firearms. The Second Amendment is a right held by all Americans, not just wealthy ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkhalil61 Posted November 25, 2020 at 01:42 PM Share Posted November 25, 2020 at 01:42 PM Wow- as much as I would love to pay the tax, I lost all my rifles in a boating accident the other day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlin Posted November 25, 2020 at 01:52 PM Share Posted November 25, 2020 at 01:52 PM https://www.atr.org/biden-impose-200-gun-tax Biden to Impose $200 Gun TaxPosted by Isabelle Morales on Wednesday, October 28th, 2020, 1:30 PM Joe Biden would force semiautomatic rifle owners to either participate in a gun buyback program, or register their firearm under the National Firearms Act, which requires the payment of a $200 tax. I expect the non compliance rate to be extremely high,judging by people I've talked to about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted November 25, 2020 at 01:55 PM Share Posted November 25, 2020 at 01:55 PM From Forbes ...Despite Biden’s stance on guns and America’s recent history with mass shootings, gun control was not a serious topic during the campaign. Gun control was never mentioned during the debates, which were dominated by coronavirus and the economy. Gunmakers could face limited actual risk due to the likelihood of a divided Congress: the Democrats need wins in two runoffs in Georgia to knot the Senate at 50 seats apiece, which would allow Vice President Harris to cast a deciding vote in any legislation that receives party-line support. President Obama was unable to pass gun control legislation in 2013 when he faced a divided Congress. “Congress hasn’t done anything, and isn’t in all likelihood going to do anything for the foreseeable future,” said Philip Cook, a sociologist at the Sanford School of Public Policy at Duke University and co-author of Gun Violence: The Real Costs. “It’s kind of a remarkable situation where fake politics is driving real decisions.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted November 25, 2020 at 02:40 PM Share Posted November 25, 2020 at 02:40 PM I feel safer already here on the West Side of Chicago. So tired of politricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted November 25, 2020 at 02:43 PM Share Posted November 25, 2020 at 02:43 PM So does this mean it will also make legal suppressors and class 3's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted November 25, 2020 at 02:47 PM Share Posted November 25, 2020 at 02:47 PM From Forbes ...Despite Biden’s stance on guns and America’s recent history with mass shootings, gun control was not a serious topic during the campaign. Gun control was never mentioned during the debates, which were dominated by coronavirus and the economy. Gunmakers could face limited actual risk due to the likelihood of a divided Congress: the Democrats need wins in two runoffs in Georgia to knot the Senate at 50 seats apiece, which would allow Vice President Harris to cast a deciding vote in any legislation that receives party-line support. President Obama was unable to pass gun control legislation in 2013 when he faced a divided Congress. “Congress hasn’t done anything, and isn’t in all likelihood going to do anything for the foreseeable future,” said Philip Cook, a sociologist at the Sanford School of Public Policy at Duke University and co-author of Gun Violence: The Real Costs. “It’s kind of a remarkable situation where fake politics is driving real decisions.” Thanks soundguy!!!I feel relieved already!! Thank you for supporting our 2A rights by bringing to our attention that 'this will never happen'. <Oooo...new episode of Dancing With Stars Who Know Better Than Us...> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted November 25, 2020 at 03:22 PM Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 at 03:22 PM From Forbes ...Despite Biden’s stance on guns and America’s recent history with mass shootings, gun control was not a serious topic during the campaign. Gun control was never mentioned during the debates, which were dominated by coronavirus and the economy. Gunmakers could face limited actual risk due to the likelihood of a divided Congress: the Democrats need wins in two runoffs in Georgia to knot the Senate at 50 seats apiece, which would allow Vice President Harris to cast a deciding vote in any legislation that receives party-line support. President Obama was unable to pass gun control legislation in 2013 when he faced a divided Congress. “Congress hasn’t done anything, and isn’t in all likelihood going to do anything for the foreseeable future,” said Philip Cook, a sociologist at the Sanford School of Public Policy at Duke University and co-author of Gun Violence: The Real Costs. “It’s kind of a remarkable situation where fake politics is driving real decisions.” I recall people saying much the same about the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban in the months before then Senator Biden ushered it through Congress right to President Clinton's desk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod Posted November 25, 2020 at 03:46 PM Share Posted November 25, 2020 at 03:46 PM There wouldn't be enough jail space to house all the non-compliant folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carry Posted November 25, 2020 at 04:48 PM Share Posted November 25, 2020 at 04:48 PM Just another tax to deny poor people their 2nd Amendment rights. Similar tactic to the poll taxes that existed between 1870 (15th Amendment allowing former slaves the right to vote) and 1964 (24th Amendment abolishing those voter/poll taxes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted November 25, 2020 at 05:01 PM Share Posted November 25, 2020 at 05:01 PM Unconstitutional on its face! You cannot "tax" the exercise of a constitutional right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted November 25, 2020 at 05:15 PM Share Posted November 25, 2020 at 05:15 PM There wouldn't be enough jail space to house all the non-compliant folks. But they will destroy your life. A felony conviction would be the end of life for any "normal" person. Of course for a thug, it's no big deal. But for someone who values freedom and works a good job, it's the end of having any real life. So while people may fail to comply for a while, little by little the authoritarians in charge will destroy lives of normal people every day until they achieve their goals of fully marginalizing those who believe in the 2nd amendment. Non-compliance is not really an option. The only real option is to make sure this horrific idea does not pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted November 25, 2020 at 05:42 PM Share Posted November 25, 2020 at 05:42 PM There wouldn't be enough jail space to house all the non-compliant folks. But they will destroy your life. A felony conviction would be the end of life for any "normal" person. Of course for a thug, it's no big deal. But for someone who values freedom and works a good job, it's the end of having any real life. So while people may fail to comply for a while, little by little the authoritarians in charge will destroy lives of normal people every day until they achieve their goals of fully marginalizing those who believe in the 2nd amendment. Non-compliance is not really an option. The only real option is to make sure this horrific idea does not pass ...which will give some of the extreme's a reason to shoot back. This whole idea is terrible at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted November 25, 2020 at 09:50 PM Share Posted November 25, 2020 at 09:50 PM Unconstitutional on its face! You cannot "tax" the exercise of a constitutional right! That is the way I feel, and if he does do this I hope it entirely blows up in his face int he SCOTUS resulting in the NFA being gutted entirely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriumphRider Posted November 26, 2020 at 01:20 AM Share Posted November 26, 2020 at 01:20 AM "Unconstitutional on its face! You cannot "tax" the exercise of a constitutional right!" FOID CCW License NFA Tax Sales taxes on ammunition Sales taxes on firearms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carry Posted November 26, 2020 at 01:27 AM Share Posted November 26, 2020 at 01:27 AM ^^^ this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted November 26, 2020 at 04:04 AM Share Posted November 26, 2020 at 04:04 AM "Unconstitutional on its face! You cannot "tax" the exercise of a constitutional right!" FOID CCW License NFA Tax Sales taxes on ammunition Sales taxes on firearms I agree, and I hope the new Supreme Court agrees as well, albeit, the sales tax as long as it's the same general sales tax applied to other tangable items will likely never be declared unconstitutional, same as charging general sales tax on a pen and paper likely isn't unconstitutional. But, I have no disagreement that permissions slips and specifically targeted taxes are illegal! I'm done trying to lobby legislatures to do the right thing, it's time we get the Supreme Court to lay down the law that forces the legislatures to do the right thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted November 26, 2020 at 07:23 AM Share Posted November 26, 2020 at 07:23 AM There wouldn't be enough jail space to house all the non-compliant folks. Just let some people out to make room. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted November 30, 2020 at 04:04 PM Share Posted November 30, 2020 at 04:04 PM There wouldn't be enough jail space to house all the non-compliant folks.Just let some people out to make room. ;-) That is the Cook County way. Here's a good example from this weekend. The woman he killed, mother of his child that he abducted, was pregnant. I think he is still on the run. Somebody is harboring him!https://cwbchicago.com/2020/11/suspected-double-murderer-who-sparked-amber-alert-is-on-bail-for-reckless-homicide-and-2-gun-cases.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted November 30, 2020 at 04:24 PM Share Posted November 30, 2020 at 04:24 PM "Unconstitutional on its face! You cannot "tax" the exercise of a constitutional right!" FOID CCW License NFA Tax Sales taxes on ammunition Sales taxes on firearms I agree, and I hope the new Supreme Court agrees as well, albeit, the sales tax as long as it's the same general sales tax applied to other tangable items will likely never be declared unconstitutional, same as charging general sales tax on a pen and paper likely isn't unconstitutional. But, I have no disagreement that permissions slips and specifically targeted taxes are illegal! I'm done trying to lobby legislatures to do the right thing, it's time we get the Supreme Court to lay down the law that forces the legislatures to do the right thing. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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