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#1 InterestedBystander

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 05:10 AM

full story at link...

https://www.washingt...bbb9_story.html

..."One of the countrys leading gun-control groups is changing its name Tuesday from Americans for Responsible Solutions to Giffords, the name of the former Arizona congresswoman who was shot in the head in 2011 and founded the group two years later after 20 Connecticut first-graders were killed.

Gun-control advocates say the name change is part of a larger effort to reframe the gun debate in the wake of the recent Las Vegas mass shooting. By focusing on former Democratic congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords as a symbol of courage, they are hoping to draw in more people to fight for stronger firearms laws.

It will be a long, hard haul, but Im optimistic, Giffords said in an interview with her husband, Mark Kelly, from their home in Tucson.

It is about the courage of single individuals, but also the courage of members of Congress and state legislators to stand up to the gun lobby and focus on this like they never have before, said Kelly, a former astronaut and co-founder of the group. If we dont have the courage to talk about this . . . were going to have another Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, another shooting like we saw in Vegas.

Kelly and Giffords, both gun owners, are releasing a video Tuesday that they made with former president Barack Obama, Sen. Patrick J. Toomey (R-Pa.) and retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal, a former U.S. Army general who commanded the Joint Special Operations Command for five years."...
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Posted 17 October 2017 - 05:51 AM

These groups change their skins more often than a snake. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 07:19 AM

1) it's a sign they haven't yet gotten the attention they would prefer to have, and this is an attempt to grab some attention; and
2) it's a way to distance themselves / their brand from their recent legislative failures

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 08:06 AM

1) it's a sign they haven't yet gotten the attention they would prefer to have, and this is an attempt to grab some attention; and
2) it's a way to distance themselves / their brand from their recent legislative failures

Yes, it seems desperate (like the Brady reorganization)



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Posted 17 October 2017 - 08:46 AM

Membership should start multiplying now


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 09:46 AM

The Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence (LCPGV) previously known as LCAV - Legal Community Against Violence, has changed its name to The Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, and it also merged with the Giffords organization.

 

When these organizations are strongly associated with a single personality, it just doesn't end well for them.  The Brady-whatever its called now, certainly lost steam.  Without Sarah Brady actually out there in front of the microphone and making press releases and statements and everything, the organization is crumbling.  This Giffords thing will be even worse because they're just hitching their group to a name.  Even though I think Sarah Brady was misguided, I have to admit she was a force for gun control.  She brought a lot of energy to the gun control movement and she worked tirelessly for gun control.  Gabrielle Giffords and Mark Kelly aren't in the same class that Sarah Brady was and the "Gifford" groups will end up re branding itself just like LCAV/LCPGV/PAX/CPYV/NCCH/HCI/NCBH/CSGV.


 

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 10:04 AM

I think it's a smart move on their part, and I'm a bit afraid of how effective they may become. What with the adoration heaped upon congress by the masses, this is sure to stir even the most hardened soul into opening their wallets and inundating "Giffords" with support. I can hear the chanting in the streets already, "Justice for congress! Justice for our lawmakers!"


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 11:35 AM

Membership should start multiplying now

 

I am on the membership list. Don't know why but I figure I will just leave it that way.


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 01:00 PM

The ARS Facebook page is down, or gone.

 

I wonder if Kelly and Giffords aren't able to use the ARS name anymore.


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 06:46 PM

wonder if ARS lost a lawsuit and this is an attempt to duck out on the $$


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 06:49 PM

wonder if ARS lost a lawsuit and this is an attempt to duck out on the $$

 

Imagine if that happens now.  "Giffords just cost me $500,000 on a frivolous law suit".

 

I wouldn't want my name tossed around like that.  But I would't give people such horrible advice, either.


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Posted 18 October 2017 - 04:44 AM

I think the old name got read phonetically as Eh Arrs by too many dimwits confusing Eh Arr 15s.....
Would serve them right to sit on the domain names they previously occupied and scoop them up for gun rights use.

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Posted 18 October 2017 - 07:42 AM

I wonder if it's in the same vein as people who started using the term "gun safety" instead of "gun control" because the latter has become far too toxic.
"The point of [so-called "assault weapon" bans]...is not to ban firearms that are dangerous, it's to ban firearms that gun owners want to own because the people making the laws don't like gun owners. If we want to buy non-semiauto AR-style rifles, they'll ban those too, and for the same reason."

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:02 AM

NRA article on the gun control groups name changes

 

 

https://www.nraila.o...ntrol-rebranded


 

Mayor Bloomberg himself has recently turned his attention from oversize soft drinks to gun control, confirming the tendency of the Progressive to go from nanny to tyrant.
- N. A. Halkides -
 
“There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters” 
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The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. 
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“Any government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have."

 


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Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:11 AM

I wonder if it's in the same vein as people who started using the term "gun safety" instead of "gun control" because the latter has become far too toxic. 

 

 

 

 

Yes.  In the NRA article, Chris Cox references the "gun safety" term:

 

 

The inoffensive name appears to have worked on some of the less astute. In 2015, the New York Times referred to the organization as merely a “gun safety group.” This, despite VPC’s position that “Handguns should be banned from future sale except for military and law-enforcement personnel.”

 


 

Mayor Bloomberg himself has recently turned his attention from oversize soft drinks to gun control, confirming the tendency of the Progressive to go from nanny to tyrant.
- N. A. Halkides -
 
“There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters” 
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“Any government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have."

 


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Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:47 AM

These groups change their skins more often than a snake.


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Ya know Ive never understood that old saying....

Edited by Cerus, 21 December 2017 - 11:47 AM.


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Posted 21 December 2017 - 12:59 PM

In case you didn't know , snakes shed their skin as they grow. Thus the saying lockman referred to was born.



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Posted 21 December 2017 - 01:42 PM

If you get run over by a car it doesn't mean you won't own one but importantly it also doesn't mean your a traffic control expert either. 


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Posted 21 December 2017 - 05:54 PM

In case you didn't know , snakes shed their skin as they grow. Thus the saying lockman referred to was born.


I’m a reptile guy so I know.

What I meant not getting is how it negatively implies that some people change so often. Snakes shed a few times a year at adulthood while humans shed 10-20+ times a year.

One of those random thought days. :)

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 07:41 PM

 

In case you didn't know , snakes shed their skin as they grow. Thus the saying lockman referred to was born.


I’m a reptile guy so I know.

What I meant not getting is how it negatively implies that some people change so often. Snakes shed a few times a year at adulthood while humans shed 10-20+ times a year.

One of those random thought days. :)

 

 

 I see. Yeah the political leaders do change more than a snake.



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Posted 21 December 2017 - 09:29 PM

They're changing the name to her because she's a narcissist.


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Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:33 PM

My favorite story is this one
https://www.snopes.c...s/markkelly.asp

In other accounts of the story it was said the reason Mark Kelly had bought the used one is it had several customizations he wanted. Obviously with a new one it would of had no wait period, been cheaper, and could of been timed with a "political statement". Also it doesn't mention anywhere in the story the fate of the 45acp pistol he bought, so it's assumed he did take possession of that.

Even more fun, if you have money to burn exposing the hypocrisy of these clowns order the cheapest gun online and select this FFL
http://fflgundealers...oshua-alan.html

Then call to arrange your pickup...

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 02:38 PM

And before the details are even known Gabby's puppets are firing up the PR machine.

Our nations schools should be some of the safest spaces in our communities. Why do we keep allowing this terror to happen?" she said in a statement. "Congress can protect our kids in their classrooms, in the cafeteria, and on the playground but to do that they must strengthen our gun laws ."


Edited by chicagoresident, 23 January 2018 - 02:40 PM.


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 02:55 PM

If kids were even half as important as our elected officials, they'd have at least half of the security those officials are afforded.


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