steveTA84 Posted October 18, 2019 at 11:31 AM Share Posted October 18, 2019 at 11:31 AM https://gvpaction.com/call-your-lawmaker/ Hello, Senator. I'm calling as your constituent to ask you to support SB1966, the BIO Bill, a bill which would block illegal gun ownership by keeping guns away from people who cannot pass a criminal background check. Will you agree today to #FixtheFOID by supporting the BIO Bill and help save lives in Illinois?Now its the BIO bill. This has got to be recent (as in VERY recent), and interesting the change considering the recent polling from NPR........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted October 18, 2019 at 03:42 PM Share Posted October 18, 2019 at 03:42 PM Oh perfect. A bill that would stop someone who already can't own a gun, to own a gun. Have any of these idiots ever read a law? Making it more illegaller will stop the violence in gang neighborhoods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappaDock Posted October 18, 2019 at 04:01 PM Share Posted October 18, 2019 at 04:01 PM I'm really confused now. I thought the process for obtaining a FOID included a background check. Not to mention purchasing a gun requires a NICS check. So what exactly is this trying to change with the FOID? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted October 18, 2019 at 04:05 PM Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 at 04:05 PM BIO= Biometrics And more on Accurate Biometrics, one of the proponents/lobbyists for SB1966 https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/05/23/fix-the-foid-less-rights-for-us-more-money-for-cronies/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted October 18, 2019 at 04:09 PM Share Posted October 18, 2019 at 04:09 PM I'm really confused now. I thought the process for obtaining a FOID included a background check. Not to mention purchasing a gun requires a NICS check. So what exactly is this trying to change with the FOID?Increased fees, no private sales, required fingerprints, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted October 18, 2019 at 04:13 PM Share Posted October 18, 2019 at 04:13 PM BIO= BiometricsAnd more on Accurate Biometrics, one of the proponents/lobbyists for SB1966https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/05/23/fix-the-foid-less-rights-for-us-more-money-for-cronies/I assume not based on exceptions, but does the Biometrics privacy act potentially come into play at all regarding retention and destruction of data? (have not read the act yet)http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=3004&ChapterID=57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted October 18, 2019 at 04:49 PM Share Posted October 18, 2019 at 04:49 PM How many of those have had their FOID "revoked" due to a simple expiration or moving out of state? My guess is MOST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VannDaddy Posted October 18, 2019 at 04:59 PM Share Posted October 18, 2019 at 04:59 PM So this bill will make it MORE ILLEGAL to buy or possess a gun? If it’s illegal then why do they need ANOTHER law?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangerdeepv Posted October 18, 2019 at 05:11 PM Share Posted October 18, 2019 at 05:11 PM More $$$$$ for the lawyers out of our pockets when we have to get our God-given returned to us is all this will do. This state is really starting to sound more and more like Commiefornia everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted October 18, 2019 at 05:19 PM Share Posted October 18, 2019 at 05:19 PM -You need an ID to get fingerprints.-People from Communities of Color and Low Economic Satus have a hard time getting IDs.-This law disenfranchises both the Poor and People of Color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDoctor Posted October 18, 2019 at 05:25 PM Share Posted October 18, 2019 at 05:25 PM BIO= Biometrics And more on Accurate Biometrics, one of the proponents/lobbyists for SB1966 https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/05/23/fix-the-foid-less-rights-for-us-more-money-for-cronies/Sickening. Cronies, ha! BFF F ing legal gun owners. They don't really care about anything, but money and power. Nice work again, Steve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted October 18, 2019 at 05:37 PM Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 at 05:37 PM BIO= BiometricsAnd more on Accurate Biometrics, one of the proponents/lobbyists for SB1966https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/05/23/fix-the-foid-less-rights-for-us-more-money-for-cronies/ Sickening. Cronies, ha! BFF F ing legal gun owners. They don't really care about anything, but money and power. Nice work again, Steve!None of these were my finds. Teamwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdhunter1 Posted October 18, 2019 at 06:21 PM Share Posted October 18, 2019 at 06:21 PM Simple solution, incarcerate everyone who cannot pass a background check because they might be able to find an illegal means of acquiring a firearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Power Posted October 18, 2019 at 06:50 PM Share Posted October 18, 2019 at 06:50 PM BIO= Biometrics And more on Accurate Biometrics, one of the proponents/lobbyists for SB1966 https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/05/23/fix-the-foid-less-rights-for-us-more-money-for-cronies/ Basically, money for the company that is trying to help lobby for this. You know who that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS1 Posted October 18, 2019 at 07:22 PM Share Posted October 18, 2019 at 07:22 PM How many of those have had their FOID "revoked" due to a simple expiration or moving out of state? My guess is MOST.1/3 or less if you believe the stats. The numbers in the OP come from the article here:http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=72082 Before the Tribune finished its analysis, gun rights advocates predicted it would be a waste of time, insisting most people had their cards revoked simply because they moved out of state. In reality, less than 4% or 1,332 of 34,221 lost their FOIDs for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappaDock Posted October 18, 2019 at 07:27 PM Share Posted October 18, 2019 at 07:27 PM I'm really confused now. I thought the process for obtaining a FOID included a background check. Not to mention purchasing a gun requires a NICS check. So what exactly is this trying to change with the FOID?Increased fees, no private sales, required fingerprints, etcFor this to make sense, FOID holders have to be significantly (statistics) more likely to commit crime than non-FOID holders. I can't imagine that being the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird76Mojo Posted October 19, 2019 at 01:42 AM Share Posted October 19, 2019 at 01:42 AM They're really after us on the private sales and getting fingerprints requirement.. That's their next goalpost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted October 19, 2019 at 01:47 AM Share Posted October 19, 2019 at 01:47 AM It’s about money, the company lobbying for the biometrics and finger printing want to get paid back and then they will kick some of the profits back to the Illinois Democratic Party As “campaign donations” which get distributed throughout party and kicked up to Madigan, and Cullerton. Madigan has reportedly spent $1.5 mill in legal fees for the sexual Harassment issue and the party needs that money back. And then their bag man Burke is in court and can’t be passing out his 10 mill without the feds watching his every move. Not to mention the feds breathing down their necks, their having a tough time moving the money around and then there’s all the money for attorneys.... and they don’t know who’s getting pinched next. It’s hard out here on a ....gun-grabber, trying to make that money for the rent. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted October 19, 2019 at 04:41 PM Share Posted October 19, 2019 at 04:41 PM I'm surprised they don't want our DNA to get a FOID. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted October 19, 2019 at 05:03 PM Share Posted October 19, 2019 at 05:03 PM I'm surprised they don't want our DNA to get a FOID. Sent from my SM-G975U using TapatalkThey don't want any civilian to get a FOID and are trying to make it hard and expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnwfan3 Posted October 19, 2019 at 08:07 PM Share Posted October 19, 2019 at 08:07 PM I'm surprised they don't want our DNA to get a FOID. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Just wait, that's next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max503 Posted October 20, 2019 at 02:05 PM Share Posted October 20, 2019 at 02:05 PM -You need an ID to get fingerprints.-People from Communities of Color and Low Economic Satus have a hard time getting IDs.-This law disenfranchises both the Poor and People of Color.Increased FOID fees will go further to disenfranchise Poor and People of Color (as well as older people on fixed incomes) from being able to afford guns. I'm seriously thinking of moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonap Posted October 20, 2019 at 02:31 PM Share Posted October 20, 2019 at 02:31 PM -You need an ID to get fingerprints.-People from Communities of Color and Low Economic Satus have a hard time getting IDs.-This law disenfranchises both the Poor and People of Color.Increased FOID fees will go further to disenfranchise Poor and People of Color (as well as older people on fixed incomes) from being able to afford guns. I'm seriously thinking of moving. I do agree with you both about the garbage bill, but I'm just curious. Why would, "People of Color", be disenfranchised differently than poor people or those on fixed incomes? Seems like it's just a matter of finances and not one of race. IDs of some sort are available for free or very low cost. DMV? Not sure what the price is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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