Edgar/Champaign Co RTB Town Hall?
#91
Posted 12 July 2010 - 11:19 AM
#92
Posted 12 July 2010 - 11:47 AM
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#93
Posted 13 July 2010 - 04:36 AM
I don't know what the tunrout was in numbers, lot's of empty chairs though. Somebody wanted to know why the place wasn't packed. IMO it is because people in general either care nothing about the issue or don't "have time" to come to these things. Almost a month ago, I was purchasing some ammo at Walmart. The lady waiting the counter actually showed me the flyer and told me all about this meeting. I acted like I didn't know about it and she told me all about it! She was in agreement with us and said IL's laws made no sense. At any rate, I told everyone I knew about the meeting and only 2 of them showed up, my dad and Al Reynolds (candidate for the 52 senate district) I suppose most, if not all folks I know agree with CCW anyway, but it would have been nice to have more people. The media was also a big disappointment. I think the local newspaper had a reporter on hand (haven't seen the paper yet). On the plus side, I did see a good number of women there!
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
#94
Posted 13 July 2010 - 06:05 AM
Title, "Event makes pitch for concealed-carry law".
ETA: Can't "attach" here, will have to do it elsewhere.
...Chinese proverb
#95
Posted 13 July 2010 - 07:10 AM
Ashdump, on 13 July 2010 - 04:36 AM, said:
I don't know what the tunrout was in numbers, lot's of empty chairs though. Somebody wanted to know why the place wasn't packed. IMO it is because people in general either care nothing about the issue or don't "have time" to come to these things. Almost a month ago, I was purchasing some ammo at Walmart. The lady waiting the counter actually showed me the flyer and told me all about this meeting. I acted like I didn't know about it and she told me all about it! She was in agreement with us and said IL's laws made no sense. At any rate, I told everyone I knew about the meeting and only 2 of them showed up, my dad and Al Reynolds (candidate for the 52 senate district) I suppose most, if not all folks I know agree with CCW anyway, but it would have been nice to have more people. The media was also a big disappointment. I think the local newspaper had a reporter on hand (haven't seen the paper yet). On the plus side, I did see a good number of women there!
No credit due to me, all I did was show up and sell a few raffle tickets. Kudos to Drylok and Coach who did the yeoman's share of legwork getting this set up. As to the crowd. We had 140+ people talking about carrying guns in the heart of the second most liberal, anti gun city in Illinois! You all did great!! You encouraged many who thought they were alone in their thoughts, you opened the eyes of several who thought they opposed the concept, you made a little money for the cause and most of all you got some media attention (front page news according to Coach this morning).
You got in a personal plug for the only pro-carry Gubernatorial candidate it the state, you gave some progun politicians and candidates some exposure with the pro gun crowd and you gave some folks a chance to vent and ask some questions.
You got some exposure for Illinois Carry, ISRA, GSL, NRA, PA LTCF, FOID, and just general firearm friendly people in general. You all did great!!
And you did it in the belly of the "second beast".
Congrats to all and thanks to MikeW for the long trip and to Molly and Mr B who have been gone from home so long that they had to ask us for directions before we all left last night!
Thanks too to the Sheriffs that showed up and voiced their support and answered questions. Sheriff McGrew, after the meeting told me that he would welcome the idea of some law-abiding citizens, carrying weapons, that he might depend on for help in tight situations. Mr McGrew is the Sheriff of Douglas County, where a deputy was killed in the line of duty a couple of years ago during a crime spree by a couple of 'ganstas' through Tuscola, Villa Grove and Arcola. To quote another member, "he gets it".
Great meeting, where's the next one??
AB
The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?
"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams
Luke 11:21 - "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed." NASB
#96
Posted 13 July 2010 - 07:15 AM
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#97
Posted 13 July 2010 - 07:41 AM
Federal Farmer, on 13 July 2010 - 07:15 AM, said:
+1...+2, for gettin' it done!!
ETA: Whoops! Reckon I just checked the N-G electronic edition too early...it's there now:
My link
...Chinese proverb
#98
Posted 13 July 2010 - 10:10 AM
Federal Farmer, on 13 July 2010 - 07:15 AM, said:
Though I was disappointed in the turnout we had some new comers that joined us. I can't remember for sure but I think I had 15 FOID apps and 15 PA LTCF apps with me and I have 3 FOID left and 1 PA LTCF app left. There was one lady who made a large contribution to ISRA and to my knowledge had not been to such a meeting, she picked up her first FOID app on her way out.
Those are the kind of folks we like to draw to these meetings and if we inspired just a couple existing gun owners to now become ACTIVELY ENGAGED it was worth it IMO.
Mike And Valinda, I can't thank you enough for your guidance in setting this meeting up. I can't wait to do it again!
I'll be writing thank you letters to the sheriffs and senators who joined us this evening. Also Senator Righter would like a list of the guests. Mike or Molly do you have that and could you copy down those names and send it to me?
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#99
Posted 13 July 2010 - 10:44 AM
but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle
#100
Posted 13 July 2010 - 11:06 AM
Edit: But see here's what I'm talking about. This is where I failed
From The Comment Section:
Sincere thanks for the unbiased coverage News Gazette! This is one more Right To Carry advocate who didn't attend because he hadn't heard of the meeting! So count one more! Josh McNattin Champaign
Fliers aren't good enough, we must find new innovative ways to reach the masses and inform them of upcoming events.
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#101
Posted 13 July 2010 - 11:48 AM
Drylok, on 13 July 2010 - 11:06 AM, said:
Edit: But see here's what I'm talking about. This is where I failed
From The Comment Section:
Sincere thanks for the unbiased coverage News Gazette! This is one more Right To Carry advocate who didn't attend because he hadn't heard of the meeting! So count one more! Josh McNattin Champaign
Fliers aren't good enough, we must find new innovative ways to reach the masses and inform them of upcoming events.
Yeah, you're going to miss some. "RTC advocates" that truly ARE advocates need to seek out meetings and others of like mind. What does Mr. McNattin want, an engraved invitation hand delivered?? Sometimes Mohammed must go to the mountain.
UAB
The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?
"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams
Luke 11:21 - "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed." NASB
#102
Posted 13 July 2010 - 12:04 PM
abolt243, on 13 July 2010 - 11:48 AM, said:
Drylok, on 13 July 2010 - 11:06 AM, said:
Edit: But see here's what I'm talking about. This is where I failed
From The Comment Section:
Sincere thanks for the unbiased coverage News Gazette! This is one more Right To Carry advocate who didn't attend because he hadn't heard of the meeting! So count one more! Josh McNattin Champaign
Fliers aren't good enough, we must find new innovative ways to reach the masses and inform them of upcoming events.
Yeah, you're going to miss some. "RTC advocates" that truly ARE advocates need to seek out meetings and others of like mind. What does Mr. McNattin want, an engraved invitation hand delivered?? Sometimes Mohammed must go to the mountain.
UAB
A lady who attended last night just called me and wanted to thank everyone who put the meeting on as she is not a firearm owner yet (foid in the mail), this was her first 2A meeting and she said she's going to the GSL meeting tonight. I do believe we built a fire under that Illinois citizen!
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#103
Posted 13 July 2010 - 12:08 PM
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lol Well ya true. If the guy was in darn near any gas station, hardware store, farm store, gun shop or eat'n joint in the 4 county area there was an opportunity to see a flier.
A lady who attended last night just called me and wanted to thank everyone who put the meeting on as she is not a firearm owner yet (foid in the mail), this was her first 2A meeting and she said she's going to the GSL meeting tonight. I do believe we built a fire under that Illinois citizen!
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If it converts just one person, it's worth it!!
The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?
"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams
Luke 11:21 - "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed." NASB
#104
Posted 13 July 2010 - 12:12 PM
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#105
Posted 13 July 2010 - 12:13 PM
Stop beating yourself up! You did GREAT!
While getting ready for the Wayne Co. meeting , I delivered many fliers and talked to many people as did others who were working this area at the time. I had a solid dozen people tell me how glad they were to see this meeting happen and how they wanted to be there to learn all they could about it. Some were family....
The night of the meeting , there were 3 people there that I had talked to. One was ME! Others there may have seen the fliers and came but the ones I had spoken to, and who had said they would be there , later gave me exscuses such as .. well I wanted to see that new movie out .. or we decided to go out to eat , etc.......They want to see a carry bill passed , but they want someone else to do all the leg work for them. Such is human nature unfortunately.
#106
Posted 13 July 2010 - 12:23 PM
papa, on 13 July 2010 - 12:13 PM, said:
Stop beating yourself up! You did GREAT!
While getting ready for the Wayne Co. meeting , I delivered many fliers and talked to many people as did others who were working this area at the time. I had a solid dozen people tell me how glad they were to see this meeting happen and how they wanted to be there to learn all they could about it. Some were family....
The night of the meeting , there were 3 people there that I had talked to. One was ME! Others there may have seen the fliers and came but the ones I had spoken to, and who had said they would be there , later gave me exscuses such as .. well I wanted to see that new movie out .. or we decided to go out to eat , etc.......They want to see a carry bill passed , but they want someone else to do all the leg work for them. Such is human nature unfortunately.
Yes same here and that sucks especially when they're friends. I just think when it comes right down to it they say ah screw it, I ain't going it's never going to happen anyway.
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#107
Posted 13 July 2010 - 12:37 PM
Drylok, on 13 July 2010 - 12:12 PM, said:
I'll take care of the News-Gazette, with a special note to the reporter who covered it. Tim Mitchell used to cover the athletic events where I coached.
I'll post the letter here.
...Chinese proverb
#108
Posted 13 July 2010 - 12:45 PM
papa, on 13 July 2010 - 12:13 PM, said:
Stop beating yourself up! You did GREAT!
While getting ready for the Wayne Co. meeting , I delivered many fliers and talked to many people as did others who were working this area at the time. I had a solid dozen people tell me how glad they were to see this meeting happen and how they wanted to be there to learn all they could about it. Some were family....
The night of the meeting , there were 3 people there that I had talked to. One was ME! Others there may have seen the fliers and came but the ones I had spoken to, and who had said they would be there , later gave me exscuses such as .. well I wanted to see that new movie out .. or we decided to go out to eat , etc.......They want to see a carry bill passed , but they want someone else to do all the leg work for them. Such is human nature unfortunately.
um...how often do you talk to yourself?
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#109
Posted 13 July 2010 - 12:52 PM
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I want to thank you for your very fair reporting of the town hall meeting last night.
These meetings are being held all over the state, and it isn't often that we get unbiased reporting such as yours.
I can't tell you how much it is appreciated.
On behalf of Illinoiscarry.com, our sincere thanks!
Gene Martin
P.S.:
On a personal note...been a long time, and really was great chattin' about old times!
...Chinese proverb
#110
Posted 13 July 2010 - 12:56 PM
Seems to be more and more every day. Best of all I have a real good chance of winning the argument this way.
#111
Posted 13 July 2010 - 01:16 PM
Ol, on 13 July 2010 - 12:52 PM, said:
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I want to thank you for your very fair reporting of the town hall meeting last night.
These meetings are being held all over the state, and it isn't often that we get unbiased reporting such as yours.
I can't tell you how much it is appreciated.
On behalf of Illinoiscarry.com, our sincere thanks!
Gene Martin
P.S.:
On a personal note...been a long time, and really was great chattin' about old times!
Thank you coach!
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#112
Posted 13 July 2010 - 01:19 PM
...Chinese proverb
#113
Posted 16 July 2010 - 08:50 AM
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#114
Posted 19 July 2010 - 10:52 AM
Sheriff,On behalf of the illinoiscarry.com board of directors and members we would like to thank you for your attendance at last Mondays Right To Carry Town Hall @ Hawthorn Suites in Champaign. We noted that you took the time to visit and answer questions afterwards for the attendees and that is a good illustration of your committment to serving the people. We appreciate your comments of support that you were quoted of saying in the News Gazzette article the following day. We wish you all the best and look forward to working with you on future events.
Sincerly,
illinoiscarry.com
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
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