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Spoke with Pike Co. Board Chairman Scott Syrcle last night and he will email me their resolution to get that same thing started in Shelby county. When I get it, I'll email Ray and he can post it permanently. Will start working on this today, getting the board members behind it or at least the majority to get it passed then go to the next county working it like locusts. What do ya'll think? Anybody got any free time?
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 07:16 AM
Mac,
Did he say what if any arguements were made against this - so we can be prepared to answer any objections made by our own County Board members?
Did he say what if any arguements were made against this - so we can be prepared to answer any objections made by our own County Board members?
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 08:53 AM
Molly B., on Apr 29 2007, 08:16 AM, said:
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Did he say what if any arguements were made against this - so we can be prepared to answer any objections made by our own County Board members?
Did he say what if any arguements were made against this - so we can be prepared to answer any objections made by our own County Board members?
Mark Mountain called this morning and gave me a little more info about the meeting. Although he didn't get into specifics, he did say that the board vote was 7-2 in favor of the resolution. He also had the State's Attorney draft an opinion and will get a copy to me when he can. This will be helpful when it comes time to cross all the I's and dot all the T's. I'll also email him and ask for the minutes of the meeting when they come out next month. Should be some interesting reading.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 10:05 AM
Contacted some GSL officers (Champaign Co) and it will be discussed at the next GSL meeting, Tuesday, May 8 (always the 2nd Tuesday of each month).
Getting the County Board to do anything will be difficult, as Naomi is here, and the Board is made up of Democrats, although at this point I don't know if they all agree with her re: 2A.
We will find out!
A copy of the Pike Co resolution will be posted, correct? If I remember correctly, a copy was sent to all county boards in the state by Pike Co officials, was it not?...as well as to the legislature?
Getting the County Board to do anything will be difficult, as Naomi is here, and the Board is made up of Democrats, although at this point I don't know if they all agree with her re: 2A.
We will find out!
A copy of the Pike Co resolution will be posted, correct? If I remember correctly, a copy was sent to all county boards in the state by Pike Co officials, was it not?...as well as to the legislature?
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 10:25 AM
yes it was coach but we need to HAMMER our boards locally and really let them know were not backing down 
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 12:14 PM
Totally agree...I didn't mean to imply otherwise! Just want to make sure of my ammo!
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 05:10 PM
Check out guntalk.com there are 2 hours of their show today dedicated to the pike&brown county decisions and it got NATIONAL COVERAGE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Squat and drop DOES NOT make one a U.S. citizen!" - 2ndAmendmentforever
Islamofascism didn't kill 50,000,000 people.....but Roe v Wade did.......
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell
Islamofascism didn't kill 50,000,000 people.....but Roe v Wade did.......
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 06:32 PM
MARKHOLSTRUM, on Apr 29 2007, 06:10 PM, said:
Check out guntalk.com there are 2 hours of their show today dedicated to the pike&brown county decisions and it got NATIONAL COVERAGE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"This proposed legislation would greatly harm the citizens of this county, and we believe the members of our County Board are bound by the oaths of office to speak for us on this issue.
"The issue here is not politics, the issue is freedom. Freedom began in this nation more than 200 years ago, when small groups of people like us, in towns even smaller than ours, gathered together to tell the King who tried to rule them from a huge city an ocean away, 'Enough is enough!' Freedom will only survive today if we have the courage to do the same."
In closing, he offered: "In this room tonight we are not conservatives; we are not liberals. In this room tonight we are not Democrats; we are not Republicans. In this room tonight we are Americans."
"The issue here is not politics, the issue is freedom. Freedom began in this nation more than 200 years ago, when small groups of people like us, in towns even smaller than ours, gathered together to tell the King who tried to rule them from a huge city an ocean away, 'Enough is enough!' Freedom will only survive today if we have the courage to do the same."
In closing, he offered: "In this room tonight we are not conservatives; we are not liberals. In this room tonight we are not Democrats; we are not Republicans. In this room tonight we are Americans."
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 06:41 PM
Podcast about Pike county resolution. Click here to listen
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 09:21 PM
Blaster, on Apr 29 2007, 07:41 PM, said:
Podcast about Pike county resolution. Click here to listen
Thanks for posting it, I made an mp3 of todays show and am glad someone else found a place where they had it.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 09:33 PM
Mac McWilliams, on Apr 29 2007, 10:21 PM, said:
Blaster, on Apr 29 2007, 07:41 PM, said:
Podcast about Pike county resolution. Click here to listen
Thanks for posting it, I made an mp3 of todays show and am glad someone else found a place where they had it.
You can subscribe for free using Itunes and it will update whenever a new one is published.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 02:03 PM
Good News!
I received a message from a Brown County, Illinois board member....stating:
"I have talked to our County Sheriff and he stated he would not enforce any laws enacted by the state which are covered under our resolution, unless forced to do so. I have yet to talk to our state's attorney."
I received a message from a Brown County, Illinois board member....stating:
"I have talked to our County Sheriff and he stated he would not enforce any laws enacted by the state which are covered under our resolution, unless forced to do so. I have yet to talk to our state's attorney."
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 03:09 PM
Thats great news! I can't wait to hear what the state's attorney thinks about this. 
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When the 2006 losses first happened, I heard a lot of GOPers say, "Good! A couple of terms of Democrats in power, and they'll overreach! Then we can pick up the pieces." I thought that's stupid; it's like burning down the house so you can remodel with the insurance money. Well, willy-nilly, the structure's definitely ablaze, a 5-alarm barnburner. Those GOPers who wanted total destruction have almost got what they want. I for one just hope we still have something to repair and rebuild once the flames are out. Six years of democratic centralism is an ugly thing to contemplate.
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When the 2006 losses first happened, I heard a lot of GOPers say, "Good! A couple of terms of Democrats in power, and they'll overreach! Then we can pick up the pieces." I thought that's stupid; it's like burning down the house so you can remodel with the insurance money. Well, willy-nilly, the structure's definitely ablaze, a 5-alarm barnburner. Those GOPers who wanted total destruction have almost got what they want. I for one just hope we still have something to repair and rebuild once the flames are out. Six years of democratic centralism is an ugly thing to contemplate.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 03:47 PM
Go to NRA website to listen. Jim Logsdon Brown County Board, Robert Kenady Pike County Board, Mark Mountain Pike County Board.We will be speaking on the Gun resolutions passed in Brown and Pike County tonight.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 04:01 PM
Blaster, on Apr 30 2007, 04:47 PM, said:
Go to NRA website to listen. Jim Logsdon Brown County Board, Robert Kenady Pike County Board, Mark Mountain Pike County Board.We will be speaking on the Gun resolutions passed in Brown and Pike County tonight.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 05:22 PM
I will have to talk with some friends of mine about how to go about a resolution in Vermilion county. I have always had this sense that there is a lot of apathetic gun owners in this county. I'd love to be proven wrong! Another thing, Danville is the county seat, and danville is rapidly becoming to Vermilion county what chicago is to the rest of Illinois, a festering sewer of crime and gang activity. Section 8 housing has lured the welfare trash down here from chicago, and they have brought their trouble with them. There are no jobs here, and crime and drug rates have skyrocketed. I hope this fact makes people wake up!
"Freedom may have caused apathy, but apathy will never cause freedom" -- Ashdump, 2008
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
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"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 06:20 PM
Got the Resolution from Mark Mountain and thought I'd post it. Not a very good scan but you can still make it out.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 06:25 PM
Thanks, Mac. Just what I've been wanting to see.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 06:27 PM
Thanks, Mac.
It printed out really well!! Can't tell it's from a scan!
It printed out really well!! Can't tell it's from a scan!
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 06:33 PM
:Angry!: Another dup! I'm gettin' good at that!
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Hey Mac?? Regarding your avatar....is that what I think it is?? 
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 08:09 PM
mack69, on Apr 30 2007, 08:53 PM, said:
Hey Mac?? Regarding your avatar....is that what I think it is??
Claymore?
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 08:20 PM
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I love that--doesn't really show a lot of faith in soldiers' intelligence, does it?
I love that--doesn't really show a lot of faith in soldiers' intelligence, does it?
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mack69, on Apr 30 2007, 08:53 PM, said:
Hey Mac?? Regarding your avatar....is that what I think it is??
You bet.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 10:37 PM
I listened to Cam & company over on NRAHQ.COM and recorded Mark Mountain, Robert Kanady and Scott Syrcle on Cam's show, here is the piece. Kinda shaky the first 7 seconds but doesn't affect the piece.
Cam & Company Show Pike County
Cam & Company Show Pike County
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Mac McWilliams, on Apr 30 2007, 11:37 PM, said:
I listened to Cam & company over on NRAHQ.COM and recorded Mark Mountain, Robert Kanady and Scott Syrcle on Cam's show, here is the piece. Kinda shaky the first 7 seconds but doesn't affect the piece.
Cam & Company Show Pike County
Cam & Company Show Pike County
"Freedom may have caused apathy, but apathy will never cause freedom" -- Ashdump, 2008
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
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Hello My name is Mark Mountain Vice Chairman of the Pike County Illinois Board. Slim and I worked very hard on this for at least 2 months. Make no mistakes this was a joint effort and will only succeed if each county that co-sponsors is considered a joint partner in FREEEEEDOM. Slim and I will be very happy to answer any questions anyone has concerning any aspect of this will of the People. My email address is m5mountain@yahoo.com We the people can make a difference if we energize and mobilize!!!!!! We can only do so much, We ask you as a citizen of illinois to take the same oath of office that we took
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 11:11 PM
Welcome aboard, Mr. Mountain. I am very impressed with what you and Slim have accomplished, and hope that yours will be the example that many more County Boards follow.
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Posted 02 May 2007 - 07:24 AM
A hearty welcome to you Mark. We are all very glad you're here. Do not hesitate to contact us if we can be of help...otherwise, we will keep on doing what we do, which is tracking bills, writing letters and making calls, working on facts sheets and arguments for or against certain bills, and other grassroots activity. If you have ideas on how your resolution might most effectively be communicated to other Illinois county boards, we are all ears.
Best wishes, and again, welcome.
Best wishes, and again, welcome.
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Posted 02 May 2007 - 07:39 AM
Welcome good sir! Great job on your piece of legislation; now we need to get the rest of Illinois on board.
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