GarandFan Posted January 16, 2008 at 03:21 AM Share Posted January 16, 2008 at 03:21 AM Ogle County passes 2A RES!!A unanimous vote - No Discussion Needed! YEAH BABY!!! OGLE COUNTY IS GREEN!! Fantastic!!! Way to go, Ogle County! I think that these people effectively know the score here, and are acting that way...they didn't even need to discuss. I assume that means they are all on the same page from the get-go. Further, I had hoped that was the case in the relatively rural counties. Let's knock down a few more, shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted January 16, 2008 at 03:39 AM Share Posted January 16, 2008 at 03:39 AM Ogle County passes 2A RES!!A unanimous vote - No Discussion Needed! YEAH BABY!!! OGLE COUNTY IS GREEN!! Fantastic!!! Way to go, Ogle County! I think that these people effectively know the score here, and are acting that way...they didn't even need to discuss. I assume that means they are all on the same page from the get-go. Further, I had hoped that was the case in the relatively rural counties. Let's knock down a few more, shall we? Fantastic!!! Do you think that Cook/Collars, Champaign, Sangamon and the St Lou metro are starting to feel the pinch?? GF, we've got Moultrie before the committee and then to the board on Feb 14th, Macon is "Bakin'" courtesy Tplane37, Coach has a verbal committment to consider by Douglas, and at least 3 more showing yellow on the map. Add to those Whiteside and Carroll as indicated by Buzzard and we could be 70+ before long!!!!! Edit by AB.........Dang!! I forgot Kane, courtesy of Lockman in that other thread!!! Creepin' up on 70% !!!!!! Let's see, 68 counties would make a 2/3 majority if I do my math right!!! Keep it up folks!!!! AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNHNTN Posted January 16, 2008 at 04:00 AM Share Posted January 16, 2008 at 04:00 AM Speaking of Moultrie, should it be yellow on the map now, or am I mistaken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted January 16, 2008 at 04:05 AM Share Posted January 16, 2008 at 04:05 AM Speaking of Moultrie, should it be yellow on the map now, or am I mistaken? Not 'till it's out of committee and on the agenda of the full board. Committee meets the 6th of Feb, the Res will be put on the agenda then. Patience Grasshopper!!!! AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol'Coach Posted January 16, 2008 at 04:21 AM Share Posted January 16, 2008 at 04:21 AM Also, I wasn't gonna mention this yet, but I received an email from the Rep caucus chairman who is one of the 3 members of that @#$% sub-committee to the Champaign Policy Committee, and he is gonna push the Board Chair to have it placed on the Policy committee Agenda. I've been told that the Board Chair, who is the 3rd member of that cub-committee, is bound to respect the minority leaders requests. Whether he will or not is another matter! So, at least we have some movement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted January 16, 2008 at 04:58 AM Share Posted January 16, 2008 at 04:58 AM Atta boy Coach! Champaign has been a tough nut to crack.I am cautiously hopeful of Whiteside, but may meet the same resistance.You may be interested in my last post in the game plan thread.Keep up the good fight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted January 16, 2008 at 02:58 PM Share Posted January 16, 2008 at 02:58 PM Ogle County passes 2A RES!!A unanimous vote - No Discussion Needed! YEAH BABY!!! OGLE COUNTY IS GREEN!! Fantastic!!! Way to go, Ogle County! I think that these people effectively know the score here, and are acting that way...they didn't even need to discuss. I assume that means they are all on the same page from the get-go. Further, I had hoped that was the case in the relatively rural counties. Let's knock down a few more, shall we? I'm confused - If the Board meeting is on the 18th, how did it get passed on the 15th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted January 16, 2008 at 03:54 PM Share Posted January 16, 2008 at 03:54 PM I will have to go back through my posts, did I say the 18th? Here is the web address for the AGENDA: http://www.oglecountyclerk.org/County%20Bo...a%20January.pdf The minutes have not been posted yet.I'm sorry if I caused some confusion. This meeting will be tapedOgle County Board Meeting AgendaTuesday, January 15, 2008 at 5:30 p.m.BOARD MEETING WILL BE HELDAT THE OLD COURTHOUSECall to Order:Roll Call:Invocation & Pledge of Allegiance: KENNEY•Motion to approve the December 18, 2007, Ogle County Board meeting minutes•Motion to accept monthly reports of the Treasurer, Circuit Clerk and County Clerk/RecorderVacancies –•Regional Planning Commission – 1 unexpired term ends 04/30/2010•Board of Health - 1 unexpired term ends 05/31/2009Application deadline for this vacancy will be Friday, February 1, 2008 at4:30 p.m. in the Ogle County Clerk’s OfficeAppointments –•Mental Health “708 Board•Leaf River Fire Protection District - postponed•Zoning Board of AppealsResolutions –•Right to Bear Arms•Tax Abatement – The Depot – Forreston•Illinois Smoke Free ActOrdinances –•Fee Collection for Shining StarZoning –18-07 AMENDMENTLarry DeVries, 8028 E. Wildwood Rd., Stillman Valley, IL and Joseph DeRosso 7790 E. Wildwood Rd., Stillman Valley, IL for an Amendment to the Zoning District to rezone from AG-1 Agricultural District to R-2 Single-Family Residence District on property described as follows, owned by Larry DeVries and being purchased by Joseph DeRosso:Part of the SE1/4 SE1/4 Section 26 Marion Township 25N, R11E of the 4th P.M., Ogle County, IL, 2.0 acres, more or less. Property Identification Number: Part of 05-26-400-013Common Location: 7700 Block of E. Wildwood Rd.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------#19-07 AMENDMENTTyler Schlickman, 10713 E. Lindenwood Rd., Chana, IL for an Amendment to the Zoning District to rezone from AG-1 Agricultural District to IA Intermediate Agricultural District on property described as follows and owned by the petitioner:Part of the W1/2 NE1/4 Section 17 White Rock Township 41N, R1E of the 3rd P.M., Ogle County, IL, 26.0 acres, more or less. Property Identification Number: 18-17-202-005Common Location: 10713 E. Lindenwood Rd.Road & Bridge –•Local Agency Agreement for Federal Participation - Section 06-00239-00-RS, 80% Federal, 20% Local funding - Ridge Road Overlay, Pines Rd to IL RT 64•Local Agency Agreement for Federal Participation - Section 06-00244-00-RS, 80% Federal, 20% Local funding - Flagg Road Overlay, Lowden Rd to Lee County Line•2008 County Motor Fuel Tax Resolution - Appropriate expenditure of $650,000 for Section 08-00000-0X-GM - General Maintenance•Ordinance for the Establishment of an Altered Speed Zone – various locations - presented Dec. 18, 2007Ogle County Claims – Clerk reads the claims:•Payments in Vacation – December 2007 - $139,744.54•County Board Payments - January 2008 - $80,533.02•County Highway Fund – $97,681.96oMotion to approve claims as presentedCommittee Reports –•Long Range Planning – Courthouse Renovation Committee:oUpdate•Emergency Operations Center Committee (EOC):oUpdate•Executive CommitteeoLong Range BillsoAppoint Lynne Kilker as Alternate Representative for Tri-Opportunities Council•Chairman Comments:•Administrator Comments:Communications –•Public Notice - Us Army Corps of Engineers – Boys Scouts of America – Three Fires CouncilPublic Comment –Unfinished Business –New Business –Motion to adjourn until Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at 5:30 p.m.Agenda is posted at the old Courthouse and www.oglecounty.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted January 16, 2008 at 04:06 PM Share Posted January 16, 2008 at 04:06 PM I see where I did incorrectly post the Sheriffs committee as being on the 14th when actually it was on the 7th. but I'm still at a loss concerning a meeting date on the 18th. Are we both speaking of the Ogle County Resolution? Again, Please excuse any confusion this has caused. I didn't have a calendar handy when I posted the Sherriffs Committee date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarandFan Posted January 16, 2008 at 04:11 PM Share Posted January 16, 2008 at 04:11 PM Buzzard: Lockman simply made the astute observation that in your post #1210 you stated that the board meeting was 18 Jan 08. My best guess is that it was a typo. Obviously, the full board met on 15 Jan 08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted January 16, 2008 at 04:36 PM Share Posted January 16, 2008 at 04:36 PM Yup! There it is. Thanks guys.I will strive to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashdump Posted January 16, 2008 at 05:16 PM Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 at 05:16 PM Outstanding job on Ogle!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted January 16, 2008 at 06:13 PM Share Posted January 16, 2008 at 06:13 PM It is no big deal I just had to call a freind and tell him don't bother to show up on the 18th as it passed yesterday! Good news all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted January 16, 2008 at 06:32 PM Share Posted January 16, 2008 at 06:32 PM COOL! Sorry about the wrong date.And tell your friend there's still a few counties left.He hasn't missed it all yet! He should join the board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45superman Posted January 18, 2008 at 05:08 PM Share Posted January 18, 2008 at 05:08 PM Article in "The Times": County committee seeks gun ownership views Some La Salle County Board members are weighing whether local views on gun ownership need to be made clear to the state Legislature. But first they want to make sure they are on the right course, so citizen viewpoints are being sought. At Thursday's meeting of the County Board's Legislation and Rules Committee, members considered a resolution presented by Jack Leininger, R-Marseilles. The resolution says gun ownership is guaranteed by the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and opposes proposed state legislation that "would ban the possession and use of firearms now employed by individual citizens of La Salle County." The resolution -- which Leininger said was from the Illinois State Rifle Association, an affiliate of the National Rifle Association -- does not specify any particular legislation. But Leininger also provided a list of 10 legislative bills concerning gun control, ranging from a ban on assault weapons and .50 caliber rifles to outlawing the private sale of handguns. He also offered a state map showing the more than 60 counties that have approved the resolution. Those proposed laws, Leininger said, were aimed at dealing with problems in Chicago. "The bad people are still going to have their guns. Laws won't stop them. These bills don't affect anyone but the honest law-abiding citizens É "I don't think we need Chicago legislators telling us what we can do and can't do with our guns downstate because they have a problem." Most of the committee members present identified themselves as gun owners who believed citizens should be allowed to own guns. But nevertheless they had a variety of views on the proposed resolution. George Gruenwald, D-LaSalle, does not necessarily disagree with the ban on assault rifles, although he agreed they would be a powerful option for hunters. "There's no rabbit in the world that's going to outrun 30 rounds of lead flying at him." Tom Ganiere, D-Ottawa, pointed out there is a decision pending before the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of Parker v. District of Columbia that will decide whether the Second Amendment guarantees private gun ownership. He said he doubted whether weapons such as assault rifles were envisioned when the Second Amendment was created. "If you take the context of when the Constitution was written, they had muzzle loaders." Ganiere also suggested the issue be considered for an advisory referendum in November. Allen Erberderis, R-Somonauk, said the state Legislature could act before November. But he said he did favor Leininger's suggestion the resolution be tabled until next month to see what community reaction would be, which the committee voted to do. Do we have any La Salle County residents here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol'Coach Posted January 18, 2008 at 05:30 PM Share Posted January 18, 2008 at 05:30 PM "If you take the context of when the Constitution was written, they had muzzle loaders." Transportation isn't the same now as then.Communication isn't the same now as then.Construction isn't the same now as then.Fashion isn't the same now as then. ...need I go on? I've heard that statement as quoted before, and it... ahh... pissitates me every time! Only the means of self defense should have remained in the status quo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarandFan Posted January 18, 2008 at 05:49 PM Share Posted January 18, 2008 at 05:49 PM Do we have any La Salle County residents here? Whoever is able and willing to contact La Salle county board members should do so. This thing has a great chance there if they just hear the arguments and the truth. Most of them simply aren't thinking about it...they need to. http://www.lasallecounty.org/np/flctybrd/brdmem.htm Here is my contribution: I am not from La Salle county but I have some insight into this matter. I have seen a history of incremental gun control in Chicago and Cook. The restrictions begin small, and end up with complete bans, every time. The people who pass the bans here try to make their legislation state-wide. Every year. If and when they have their way, you too in La Salle WILL be affected. This resolution pending in La Salle county is not binding legally but it sends a message to your legislators and to Springfield. It is an important message. You don't have to bicker about the details of so-called assault weapons and other hunting rifles, or handguns (which are banned here). You simply have the opportunity to say NO to this never-ending incremental control on your choices, your freedoms, and your rights. Chicago wants to take YOUR rights as an excuse for their unwillingness to control their criminals in known, particular neighborhoods. I encourage you to support this resolution at your county level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks Posted January 18, 2008 at 11:05 PM Share Posted January 18, 2008 at 11:05 PM Do we have any La Salle County residents here?If there was a way to contact gun clubs & gun dealers in various counties whenever the resolution was brought before their county board, and provide them with information which could enlighten the board members, such an approach might be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted January 20, 2008 at 09:03 PM Share Posted January 20, 2008 at 09:03 PM Here is a list of the LaSalle Co. Board members - If you live in La Salle County or have family members/friends that live in that county, please forward this information to them. The county board has asked for input from its residents - make sure they hear from you! DIST. # NAME ADDRESS CITY ZIP PHONE Dist. 1 Daniel J. Flanagan 808 5th Avenue Mendota 61342 815-539-9028 Dist. 2 Stephen Carlson 602 13th Ave Mendota 61342 815-539-6470 Dist. 3 Kenneth L. Stockley 1678 N 43rd Rd Earlville 60518 815-246-9770 Dist. 4 Ronald L. Johnson 2244 N. 45th Rd Leland 60531 815-498-2198 Dist. 5 Allen Erbrederis 262 Easy St Somonauk 60552 815-498-9675 Dist. 6 Robert "Bob" Greenwalt 1334 Mabel Ln Sandwich 60548 815-498-9037 Dist. 7 Gary N. Small 821 E. US 52 Utica 61373 815-667-4562 Dist. 8 Marius Derango* 1315 Sunset Dr Peru 61354 815-223-5775 Dist. 9 William C. Johnson 2118 7th St Peru 61354 815-223-1910 Dist. 10 Arthur J. Rigby, Jr 2554 E 259th Rd Peru 61354 815-223-6771 Dist. 11 Joseph A. Savitch 545 Baker Ave LaSalle 61301 815-223-7622 Dist. 12 George Gruenwald 49 6th St LaSalle 61301 815-223-4507 Dist. 13 Michael A. Beavers 2778 E 509th LaSalle 61301 815-220-1025 Dist. 14 Al Piecha 422 W 1st St Oglesby 61348 815-883-9232 Dist. 15 Russell A. Boe 3423 E. 2175th Ottawa 61350 815-433-0184 Dist. 16 Thomas G. Ganiere 323 Taylor St Ottawa 61350 815-433-4457 Dist. 17 Richard L. Foltynewicz 504 W LaFayette St Ottawa 61350 815-434-5318 Dist. 18 Tom P. Walsh 1128 Paul St., POB 21 Ottawa 61350 815-434-6750 Dist. 19 Jerry L. Hicks** Board Chairman1002 Magnolia St Marseilles 61341 815-795-2608 Dist. 20 Vincent J. Grober 225 Walnut St. Seneca 61360815-357-6467 Dist. 21 Randy L. Freeman 208 Marshall St Lostant 61334 815-361-9397 Dist. 22 Richard E. Scott 734 Tomahawk Dr Ottawa 61350 815-433-4962 Dist. 23 Arratta A. Znaniecki 2532 E 1251st Rd Ottawa 61350 815-433-5176 Dist. 24 Jack Leininger 2531 E. 2450th Rd Marseilles 61341 815-795-4242 Dist. 25 Jerry Myers 1761 Sandy Ct Streator 61364 815-672-4728 Dist. 26 Ronald J. Dittmer 809 S Monroe St POB 161 Streator 61364 815-673-1012 Dist. 27 Donald E. Jordan 110 W 10th St Streator 61364 815-672-5879 Dist. 28 Robert J. Jakupcak 805 Johnson St Streator 61364 815-672-8702 Dist. 29 Glenn Garretson 3 Meredith Dr Streator 61364 815-672-4654 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted January 21, 2008 at 10:24 PM Share Posted January 21, 2008 at 10:24 PM I now have a person I'm working with in Whiteside County. He knows someone on the county board who is firearm friendly and has given him information on the 2A Res. Will keep in touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tplane37 Posted January 23, 2008 at 12:55 AM Share Posted January 23, 2008 at 12:55 AM 2A Res to be heard at the Macon County Board Meeting scheduled for Thursday, February 14, 2008 for a Full Board vote. This meeting will be on the 5th floor of the Macon County Building in downtown Decatur at 7 PM. All members at Committee Meeting are in favor. Hey, Coach, remember the blonde/brunette/redhead joke from a while back? Yeah, I was the stuttering fool tonight! But I had already spoke with confidence to each of the Committee members one-on-one prior to tonights meeting. Anyway, the only citizens in there tonight were there to here about the 2A, they are contacting there board members to help gain more support prior to the Feb 14. So Macon County stays YELLOW for the moment, but I am sure that Macon County will look mighty fine in a nice shade of GREEN in a few weeks! The Pro2A map really won them over. Let's keep it going everyone. Any word on Clinton County yet? I have also been offered help in the rest of the counties, couldn't get in to detail on much more than that, But I am supposed to make a phone call tomorrow to discuss it further. Does the name "Louis Perez" from the NRA ring any bells? He is who I am supposed to call tomorrow. Any do's/don'ts for that conversation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted January 23, 2008 at 02:07 AM Share Posted January 23, 2008 at 02:07 AM Good work tplane! Lil stutterin' huh? Speaking to groups is tough at first. Even with young kids I've found. Actually, they can be worse as they won't feign interest. But it does get easier each time. Again, Good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted January 23, 2008 at 02:56 AM Share Posted January 23, 2008 at 02:56 AM Clinton County goes GREEN with a unanimous vote! Gentlemen - we have 65 Counties and Counting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BushRat Posted January 23, 2008 at 03:41 AM Share Posted January 23, 2008 at 03:41 AM Well, since there is more than 2/3 of counties who oppose anti-gun laws, is there any chance that state-wide anti-gun laws can pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted January 23, 2008 at 03:52 AM Share Posted January 23, 2008 at 03:52 AM Well, since there is more than 2/3 of counties who oppose anti-gun laws, is there any chance that state-wide anti-gun laws can pass? Unfortunately, yes!! We have 63.7% of the counties, but only a small % of population and thus representation in Springfield. Coach had the population % figured but I think it's around 25% or less now. Gotta get Chicagoland stirred up. Maybe the recent moves by Cook county will get people off their duffs. AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tplane37 Posted January 23, 2008 at 04:10 AM Share Posted January 23, 2008 at 04:10 AM Awsome work in Clinton! What are the thoughts on what to say and what not to mention to this NRA guy who wants me to call him tomorrow? I know that earlier on we didn't really want to get the NRA or other groups involved, but do you guys think it might be benificial for the NRA to add some hype for us near Chicago and Cook county? You know, still having everything to proceed as we have, with citizens doing the walking and talking, but having the NRA whispering in the Commisioner's ears as they lie sleeping at night (so to speak), maybe doing a couple of articles on the progress and the movement? Also, if I read it correctly, Peoria County is due on Jan 31 for a full board, and Moultire County in the Committee on Feb 6. After Macon County is heard on Feb 14, Moultire is the only one with any action going on....how close are we on other Counties so we don't end up with a speed bump in our road for the journeys over the new few weeks? EDIT: I am going to try to talk with some people in Madison County and see if I can get some things stirred up. I may be going down there with a friend from work this weekend to celebrate our first paycheck from CAT (good excuse, right?) He lives in Gillespie and spends time in Alton and grew up in the area. I'll see if he knows anyone over in Madison County that is pro-gun (shouldn't be to hard) and we'll take it from there. No promises yet though, but I'll see what I can do. It ould be nice when we are in Sangamon County to say "Everything south of here is GREEN." and then just keep on moving North with that phrase. How bad will St. Clair be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol'Coach Posted January 23, 2008 at 06:21 AM Share Posted January 23, 2008 at 06:21 AM Map update: (Sorry, folks...I got carried away! Rather than have to change the number of "yellows" to 3, I figured I might as well leave it at 4, and add Moultrie as yellow. It's a sure thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol'Coach Posted January 23, 2008 at 06:45 AM Share Posted January 23, 2008 at 06:45 AM but I think it's around 25% or less now. Sorry to tell ya, it's at 16.26% of the pop....But I'm proud as heck to tell ya, that we have just begun to fight! Reminds me of the way we got S@%&*#ED in the 1970 Constitutional Convention! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted January 24, 2008 at 01:52 AM Share Posted January 24, 2008 at 01:52 AM The N R A?.....Who's the N R A !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted January 24, 2008 at 03:27 AM Share Posted January 24, 2008 at 03:27 AM I don't know how everyone else feels, and I would also wonder how the folks that started the movement feel about the NRA joining in. Specifically the great folks in Pike county that started the resolution and the first counties to speak up. Also the great folks that started the 2A resolution website to champion the cause of gun rights and that we don't like what Chicago and Springfield is doing. There's a lot of regular, everyday people that have made the 2A resolution happen. And I'm sure a lot of them are NRA members. That's great. I used to be NRA. Perhaps I will be again. Right now I feel the ISRA is fine for me. But I do know that things are moving right along with just us Illinois folks saying "enough is enough." It's like a personal family thing now. Where were the NRA big boys before? And sure as anything, any further advances credited to the NRA will be stigmatized by the anti-gunners as "brought about by the NRA gun lobby." I am but a new member here on this board. Let's hear what the elders have to say. As for me, we Illinois boys are doin' just fine by ourselves. And Tplane - you're doin' great! All by yourself and a few local folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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