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I'm beginning to think about getting a micro 9mm that I can wear in a bra holster (not the Flashbang, but one by the same maker that you wear attached under your armpit). There are times when I just have to wear a dress or outfit that won't accommodate my 9mm Shield on my belt.

Suggestions, please. I guess I could get a dinky .380, but since I already stock 9mm ammo, I'd prefer to keep things simple.

Thanks!

 

Update 7/18: I rented a Ruger LCP today. Put about 50 rounds through it. Shot it decently. Bought it! The one I rented was the "old style," but On Target had the tweaked one with the red trigger and better sights, which I bought. Got a Hogue grip for it (pink!) as the rental had one and I liked it. Didn't beat my hand up too badly. I get to take her home on Tuesday.

 

It's been named Baby Sis, to go with Big Sis (M&P 9FS) and Little Sis (Shield 9). :laugh: I've already ordered the bra holster (not the Flashbang which goes in front, but the Marilyn which goes under your bra strap on the side, like a shoulder holster) I wanted, for deep concealment.

 

I had shot Frank's Sig P238 and really wanted to buy it, but I've never carried a 1911-style pistol before and having to switch the safety off would have required a mind set switch.

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My experience with micro 9 guns is they can be fussy little beasts. Mine is 100% reliable with HST, but anything else and it becomes a real mystery as to whether it's a gun or a rock you're holding. I hate to say get a .380, but with the right ammo they end up being more reliable than a fussy micro nine.
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I think C0untZer0 mentioned the SCCY is a 10 round 9mm yet smaller in all ways than the Glock 43. But, if I recall, you weren't really able to handle a small gun because of the recoil issues hurting your wrists?

I can handle the recoil on my Shield fine. The Ruger LCR .38sp I had beat my hand up something awful. I'd have to rent an LCP, for example, and try it out. I've never shot one. This would only be an occasional carry gun, as I can ordinarily conceal my Shield without a problem. Dresses and other really dressy clothes are an issue. I have a carry purse, but much prefer to carry on body, as I don't have to worry about my pistol.

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LC9s.. Try (rent) one.. If you want, I will loan you my LC9. After you try it for fit, shoot it.. It has been worked on. You will like it..

 

I can't loan you my s because that is my daily carry.. The LC9 & the s are the exact same gun in regard to size. LC9 = DAO (safe carry gun.. Trigger is not stock, much improved), s = striker fire.. The LC9s PRO is a striker fire with no thumb safety... They are all identical in regard to exterior.. All accessories (holsters, lasers, mags, etc.) fit all.

 

It is pretty much a 9mm micro..

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Marie , I have the Kel tec PF9 ( the one Ruger copied ) and it is pretty snappy. I have carple tunnle and old Arther is showing up more everyday . I can shoot 50 rounds through the gun at one time but I know I have shot it. It starts to hurt after that.

 

I really think , for where you are planning on carrying , a small .380 would be your best bet.

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The Rohrbaugh R9 is really the smallest lightest micro-9. The DoubleTap Defense - DoubleTap Derringer is also pretty slim, fairly light. Most of these smaller nines are difficult to shoot follow-up shots quickly.

 

 

This a listing from smallest / lightest to largest heaviest

 

Rohrbaugh R9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 2.9 in
Length: 5.2 in
Height: 3.7 in
Slide Width: .82 in
Width at thickest part of pistol: .95 in
Weight: 13.5 oz, magazine 1.6 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Rounds
Boberg XR9-S (Shorty)
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.35 in
Length: 5.1 in
Height: 4.2 in
Width: .96 in
Weight: 17.5 oz
Capacity: 7+1 Rounds
Kahr MK9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.0 in
Length: 5.3 in
Height: 4.0 in
Slide Width: .90 in
Width at slide stop: 1.0 in
Weight: Pistol 22.1 oz, Magazine 1.9 oz
Capacity: 6+1
Kahr PM9 / CM9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 5.42 in
Height: 4.0 in
Slide Width: .90 in
Width at slide stop: 1.0 in
Weight: Pistol 14 oz, Magazine 1.9 oz
Capacity: 6+1
Double Tap Defense Douple Tap
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.0 in
Length: 5.5 in
Height: 3.9 in
Width: 0.665 in
Weight: 15 oz Titanium, 13 0z Aluminum
Capacity: 2
Kimber Solo
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 2.7 in
Length: 5.5 in
Height: 3.9 in
Width: 1.2 in
Weight: 17 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Rounds
SIG SAUER P290
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 2.9 in
Length: 5.5 in
Height: 3.9 in
Width: 0.9 in - 1.1" w/slide catch (roughly the same width as MK9, Kahr lists the width of the slide only)
Weight: 20.5 oz w/magazine
Capacity: 6+1
Diamondback DB9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.0 in
Length: 5.60 in
Height: 4.0 in
Width: 0.80 in
Weight: 11 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Rounds
Kel Tec PF-11
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 5.6 in
Height: 4.3 in
Width: 1.0 in
Weight: 14 oz
Capacity: 10+1 Rounds
Beretta Nano
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.07 in
Length: 5.63 in
Height: 4.17 in
Width: .90 in
Weight: 17.67 oz
Capacity: 6+1
SCCY CPX-2
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 5.7 in
Height: 4.0 in (without mag extensions)
Width: 1.0 in
Weight: 15.0 oz
Capacity: 10+1 Rounds
Kel Tec PF-9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 5.87 in
Height: 4.3 in
Width: .88 in
Weight: 12.7 oz
Capacity: 7+1 Rounds
SIG SAUER P938
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.0 in
Length: 5.9 in
Height: 3.9 in (not counting magazine w/extension)
Width: 1.1 in
Weight: 16.0 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Rounds
Ruger LC9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.12 in
Length: 6.0 in
Height: 4.5 in
Slide Width: .90in
Weight: 17.10 oz
Capacity: 7+1
Remington R-51
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.4 in
Length: 6.0 in
Height: 4.5 in
Width: .96in
Weight: 20.0 oz
Capacity: 7+1
Smith & Wesson Shield
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 6.1 in
Height: 4.6 in
Width: .95in
Weight: 19.0 oz
Capacity: 7+1
Glock 26
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.46 in
Length: 6.29 in
Height: 4.17 in
Width: 1.18 in
Weight: 19.75 oz w/o magazine
Capacity: 10+1 Rounds
Walther PPS
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.2 in
Length: 6.3 in
Height: 4.4 in
Width: .90 in
Weight: 20.0 oz
Capacity: 6+1
Springfield Armory XDs
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.3 in
Length: 6.3 in
Height: 4.4 in
Width: .90 in
Weight: 23.0 oz w/empty 7rd magazine
Capacity: 7+1
Bersa BP9CC
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.3 in
Length: 6.35 in
Height: 4.8 in
Width: .94 in
Weight: 21.5 oz
Capacity: 8+1
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I forgot to list the G43

 

Glock 43
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.39 in
Length: 6.26 in
Height: 4.25 in
Width: 1.02 in
Weight: 17.95 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Round

 

I really don't consider the guns that are larger than 6" x 4" to be micro-nines or pocket nines, but there is always someone who swears they can pocket carry a Glock 26, so I list all these larger pistols also..

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My experience with micro 9 guns is they can be fussy little beasts. Mine is 100% reliable with HST, but anything else and it becomes a real mystery as to whether it's a gun or a rock you're holding. I hate to say get a .380, but with the right ammo they end up being more reliable than a fussy micro nine.

To my knowledge feeding problems are not an issue with revolvers so a 9mm revolver will feed any 9mm that you want it to.
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A Glock 43 would be good but maybe too pricey compared to other brands. an LC9 might be a good choice too.

I carry a Shield. I want something smaller. So I may have to check out the dinky .380s.

 

An LCP is much more my budget than a Sig. Holy cow, I couldn't believe the Sig prices. Sheesh. Nearly double the price of my Shield.

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Marie...

 

I have the M&P Bodyguard .380 ... for me it fits and disappears in my pocket. In terms of being dinky, using Precision One XTP, in gelatin and with denim covered gelatin, tests gave it a consistent 13+ inch penetration. If that isn't enough, try the Lehigh XP round which had 19 inches penetration in both tests. Tests are linked below.

 

Leigh XP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LczfeWK9lHw

Precision One
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F79UUxDvv5o

 

I take mine to the range about every 2 weeks and put through about 60 - 70 rounds - it is fun to shoot and at 21 feet, not to difficult to get 5 out of 6 into a 6 inch diameter.

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When it comes to 380's, I think I played with them all...

 

It came down to two for me, the rest had terrible triggers. Stupid me started with the Sig P238 Lol. Once you feel that trigger on the P238, forget it, almost everything feels like junk.

 

The other, a Kahr CW380 had a pretty good trigger as well and was also one of the smaller options. That's what I picked up and it's been my buddy every day since we could carry.

 

I usually have my Shield with me also, but for those times I need to deep conceal, the CW380 still comes along. Despite what people say about 380, I don't feel under gunned with it. It'll do enough damage if I ever have to play that card.

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Marie...

 

I have the M&P Bodyguard .380 ... for me it fits and disappears in my pocket. In terms of being dinky, using Precision One XTP, in gelatin and with denim covered gelatin, tests gave it a consistent 13+ inch penetration. If that isn't enough, try the Lehigh XP round which had 19 inches penetration in both tests. Tests are linked below.

+1 on the Bodyguard. It is my "I have to wear a nice tucked in shirt today" gun. Very small, and also accurate for such a small gun. The trigger pull it harder & snappier than I would like; but other than that a great gun.

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When it comes to 380's, I think I played with them all...

 

It came down to two for me, the rest had terrible triggers. Stupid me started with the Sig P238 Lol. Once you feel that trigger on the P238, forget it, almost everything feels like junk.

 

The other, a Kahr CW380 had a pretty good trigger as well and was also one of the smaller options. That's what I picked up and it's been my buddy every day since we could carry.

 

I usually have my Shield with me also, but for those times I need to deep conceal, the CW380 still comes along. Despite what people say about 380, I don't feel under gunned with it. It'll do enough damage if I ever have to play that card.

+1. I will add that the CW380 is the softest shooting of the bunch, but also the hardest to rack. It is my choice for tiny as well.

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Marie...

 

I have the M&P Bodyguard .380 ... for me it fits and disappears in my pocket. In terms of being dinky, using Precision One XTP, in gelatin and with denim covered gelatin, tests gave it a consistent 13+ inch penetration. If that isn't enough, try the Lehigh XP round which had 19 inches penetration in both tests. Tests are linked below.

+1 on the Bodyguard. It is my "I have to wear a nice tucked in shirt today" gun. Very small, and also accurate for such a small gun. The trigger pull it harder & snappier than I would like; but other than that a great gun.

 

 

I had a Gallaway trigger installed at Maxon - you can see it in the picture - made a real difference in shot placement at the 21 foot mark.

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When it comes to 380's, I think I played with them all...

 

It came down to two for me, the rest had terrible triggers. Stupid me started with the Sig P238 Lol. Once you feel that trigger on the P238, forget it, almost everything feels like junk.

 

The other, a Kahr CW380 had a pretty good trigger as well and was also one of the smaller options. That's what I picked up and it's been my buddy every day since we could carry.

 

I usually have my Shield with me also, but for those times I need to deep conceal, the CW380 still comes along. Despite what people say about 380, I don't feel under gunned with it. It'll do enough damage if I ever have to play that card.

+1. I will add that the CW380 is the softest shooting of the bunch, but also the hardest to rack. It is my choice for tiny as well.

 

 

Oh yeah, I think Marie has a hard time racking some guns if I remember correctly. The CW380 is a bass tard to rack.

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