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#1 Rafterman

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 11:07 AM

What is the procedure for transferring a firearm from me to my son who lives in Houston, TX which has no requirements for gun ownership. What I have researched so far is rather "hazy"
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#2 lockman

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 11:27 AM

Next time he visits let him take his property back with him.  Then there is the 100% government approved method that will cost you money and take time to have an FFL do the paperwork transfer.

 

Ironically, if you died and he was named or by default the heir, he could get them without going through an FFL. The executor can deliver them or you can pick them up directly.


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#3 FPSPrussia

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 12:33 PM

Do the transaction with a bill of sale and a 3 day waiting period. Use his liscense and write it down and make sure when writing up the bill of sale you give him like 10 basic questions that he'll sign off on like a 4473. (Although if hes your son you would probably know already.) Also move back with him into Texas.

#4 michael

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 12:46 PM

Federal law requires pickup from an FFL in Texas. Anything else, while an infringement, is breaking the law. Might be able to do it personally in the receiver's state, but otherwise just ship it (or have it shipped by an FFL) to his local dealer.



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Posted 24 January 2020 - 12:49 PM

What about the ILLINOIS STATE POLICE RECORD OF FIREARM TRANSFER  form ? I downloaded it off the site and you fill it out with:

Date of Transfer

Name of seller

Name of Buyer

FOID # of Buyer  (You can check to  see if FOID is valid on the ILSP website or call the phone # listed)

Address of Buyer

 

Weapon information

Make     Model    Serial #

 

The form comes with a IL. State Police Approval Number   &  and Approval Date

You have 1 month to complete the transaction or you'll need another form.

 You have to keep this record for 10 years from the date of transfer, this form is for your personal record. You do not send it to the IL State Police.

 

I also added what weapon he got and what weapon I received in trade.

A very simple way to transfer a weapon.

Is this process not still in use ?

 

Even if you transfer to someone out of IL. it should still work !


Edited by Nod, 24 January 2020 - 12:50 PM.


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Posted 24 January 2020 - 12:56 PM

Some very solid advice in post #4.

Please don't listen to some of the others.

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 02:08 PM

Some very solid advice in post #4.

Please don't listen to some of the others.

 

I agree.  As an out of state person and a close relative, there are FOID exceptions.  

As indicated in #4, federal law applies. There must be a receiving FFL in Texas. 

You can use a FFL at both ends, if you wish.  That will cost more. 

 

UPS will ship from individual to a FFL. Maybe others will too, but check first.

https://www.ups.com/us/en/help-center/packaging-and-supplies/special-care-shipments/firearms.page 



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Posted 24 January 2020 - 02:15 PM

Some FFLs, as a matter of their personal policy, refuse a shipment from someone who is not an FFL, so check with the Texas FFL that he'll accept it before you ship it.
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Posted 24 January 2020 - 02:18 PM

To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA?   

A person may transfer a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his or her State, provided the transferor does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the transferee is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. There may be State laws that regulate intrastate firearm transactions. A person considering transferring a firearm should contact his or her State Attorney General’s Office to inquire about the laws and possible State or local restrictions.

Generally, for a person to lawfully transfer a firearm to an unlicensed person who resides out of State, the firearm must be shipped to a Federal firearms licensee (FFL) within the transferee’s State of residence. The transferee may then receive the firearm from the FFL upon completion of an ATF Form 4473 and a NICS background check.

A person may loan or rent a firearm to a resident of any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes, if he or she or she does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. Another exception is provided for transfers of firearms to nonresidents to carry out a lawful bequest or acquisition by intestate succession. This exception would authorize the transfer of a firearm to a nonresident who inherits a firearm under the will of a decedent.

A person may transfer a firearm to a licensee in any State. However, a firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector.

[18 U.S.C 922(a)(5) and 922(d); 27 CFR 478.30, 478.32]

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#10 Talonap

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 02:34 PM

Wouldn't it depend on whether it's a handgun or a rifle?


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Posted 24 January 2020 - 03:04 PM

Wouldn't it depend on whether it's a handgun or a rifle?

 Not if is a transfer from a private seller. The long gun/handgun distinction is when acquiring from a FFL. The compounding issue is that the transferring FFL must abide by both federal law as well as the state law where the transferee resides. 



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Posted 24 January 2020 - 03:59 PM

Federal law requires pickup from an FFL in Texas. Anything else, while an infringement, is breaking the law. Might be able to do it personally in the receiver's state, but otherwise just ship it (or have it shipped by an FFL) to his local dealer.


This is the safest way to do it. Anything else is not worth the few bucks you might save.

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 04:19 PM

Do it right, use an FFL.



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Posted 24 January 2020 - 08:07 PM

Next time he visits let him take his property back with him.


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